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Post by 30yearpace on Aug 3, 2011 21:05:18 GMT -5
Smokers it seems get a extra 20 -30 min breaks everynight. Ford knows about this because the supervisors are outside smoking with them. HELL, in this hot ass weather i would love that extra break time. Just doesn't seem fair when I'm working and seeing 20+ people a night walking by my area taking a smoke break.
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Post by kbrundag on Aug 3, 2011 21:18:32 GMT -5
Really? Really? Really? Maybe with this hot weather, you're keeping yourself so healthy and hydrated that you need six restroom breaks... You won't beat em, join em. Seriously, I'm surprised you have to be told.
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Post by PUNISHER on Aug 3, 2011 23:35:08 GMT -5
i agree 30yearpace....its bull...
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Post by whiteh20kayaker on Aug 4, 2011 3:41:26 GMT -5
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Post by goodtime on Aug 4, 2011 7:06:58 GMT -5
Non smokers complained when people smoked inside, now they complain they take too many smoke breaks. I think we should start smoking inside again then we would'nt have to worry about who gets more breaks then who.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Aug 4, 2011 8:15:50 GMT -5
Ask for a smoke break...no one has to know u don't smoke...it's an easy concept.
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Post by marcus on Aug 4, 2011 10:09:51 GMT -5
We have people on my team that get an extra 30 mins aday just to go PEE.Its BS and there should be no smoke breaks at all!
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Post by JoePieper on Aug 4, 2011 11:13:22 GMT -5
would you all like some more cheese with that whine. ;D
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Post by marcus on Aug 4, 2011 11:14:24 GMT -5
Id like a cheese break then if others can get pee and smoke breaks.
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Post by saugerman on Aug 4, 2011 11:51:40 GMT -5
if its not smoking i am sure you would find something else to cry and whine about
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Post by wplap on Aug 4, 2011 11:57:38 GMT -5
Think of it like this, bitches: Smokers may get extra break time, but that extra 20-30 minutes they take per shift...they are losing that time on the end...of their LIFE!!!
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Post by marcus on Aug 4, 2011 12:07:36 GMT -5
Always something to whine about.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Aug 4, 2011 12:40:15 GMT -5
LMAO @ wplap as usual...thanks for that post...love it!
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Post by rayzak on Aug 4, 2011 14:03:36 GMT -5
I'm not there yet,( i'm one of the 76 transferring to KTP), but i'm surprized that people get smoke breaks. But in general, smokers don't have many rights to partake in a perfectly legal activity. Be glad that people, albeit those to your dislike, still have a few rights. The plant i'm coming from doesn't even allow people to drink coffee during the first hour of the shift because; "too many people need bathroom breaks at the same time". Yes, it's bullshit, but the Union allows this ridiculous miscarriage of one's rights to happen. Instead of complaining about it, be happy that you aren't a "prisoner" to the evils of nicotine, and try not to be so quick to judge.
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Post by tryingtomakeit on Aug 4, 2011 14:23:46 GMT -5
Dont bitch about the smokers getting extra break time. Grow a set, and every time the smokers on your team take a smoke break, turn on your light, and have the team leader give you a "smoke" break. You would think by now that you would learn to play their game. Eventualy the team leader or supervisor will put an end to it. Or youll get the same amount of time off the line as the smokers. Man up or shut up. Ford loves the smokers, thats just one more dope they only have to pay a pension to for 16 months. Smoke up Johnny!!
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Post by Jr on Aug 4, 2011 15:00:57 GMT -5
Dont bitch about the smokers getting extra break time. Grow a set, and every time the smokers on your team take a smoke break, turn on your light, and have the team leader give you a "smoke" break. You would think by now that you would learn to play their game. Eventualy the team leader or supervisor will put an end to it. Or youll get the same amount of time off the line as the smokers. Man up or shut up. Ford loves the smokers, thats just one more dope they only have to pay a pension to for 16 months. Smoke up Johnny!! If there Was A LIKE Button I would Be hitting it about right now!!!
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Post by kbrundag on Aug 4, 2011 15:09:29 GMT -5
It's always gotta be High School... Dry it up! Attachments:
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Post by kbrundag on Aug 4, 2011 15:11:44 GMT -5
Like Button... Attachments:
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Post by 30yearpace on Aug 8, 2011 23:41:13 GMT -5
Well the smokers on my team set a new record last night...logging in over an hour worth of smoke breaks.
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Post by goodtime on Aug 9, 2011 7:20:24 GMT -5
Wow, you timed them? Are you a boss or time study? If your that good we need you to come out and help some of the jobs on frame and chassis.
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Post by fordsucks on Aug 9, 2011 10:45:08 GMT -5
Timed them or not, this not only causes Moral problems but it costs the company numbers and just trouble for the other people on the line when the supervisor comes around asking why the numbers are low because these people just walk off the line.
Also when i'm waiting to go to the bath room 15 min longer because the Team leader is covering a smoke break....BULLSHIT!
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Post by justmefornow on Aug 9, 2011 11:00:35 GMT -5
As long as somebody is covering the job there shouldn't be any loss in production. Nobody can just walk off for a smoke break. You only have to wait 40 mins for a piss break, if they don't show then shut the line off and walk. Team leaders sometimes say they were giving smoke breaks but they aren't always doing what they say. Moral has nothing to do with giving people breaks, it has to do with everyones attitude when they come in and what job they are on. Who says you can't ask for more breaks, with it being hot and drinking more "you too can have extra breaks" you just have to ask... There's always a way around it, you just have to play the game like everyone else does.
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Post by 30yearpace on Aug 9, 2011 11:20:25 GMT -5
"you just have to play the game like everyone else does"
Screw playing games...the company and the UAW have been playing games with us for the last 7 or 8 years.
Fucking cigerettes all over the ground at the outside break tables...it's fucking NASTY TO SIT anywhere near the dam tables that are covered or shaded.
This aint no GODDAM BAR WHERE FORD HAS TO CATER TO THE SMOKERS>>>>JUST FRIGGIN STOP SMOKING ON THE PLANT PROPERTY PERIOD!
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Post by justmefornow on Aug 9, 2011 12:39:18 GMT -5
Oh really...Who are you trying to kid...everybody, management, union and hourly play games on a daily basis. I suggest you sit closer to the door beings smokers have to be so many feet away. It's just as nasty when you're sitting outside and somebody spits...Now that is GROSS!!! Walk in it, take it home to your families. Not everybody can go without some sort of habit in life. Nobody is perfect, hell sometimes the smell of BO is worse then the smoke!
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Post by justmefornow on Aug 9, 2011 12:42:38 GMT -5
If you've got time to count the mins they give "smoke" breaks then it sounds like you need more work to keep you busy and occupied... I didn't just throw somebody under the bus did I...That would be awful!!!!!
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Post by fordsucks on Aug 9, 2011 13:54:37 GMT -5
Sounds like "justmefornow" is a smoker. I see now why you are against this post. Admitting your addicted is the 1st step!
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Post by justmefornow on Aug 9, 2011 13:58:45 GMT -5
We are all addicted to something...smokes, beer, sex, weed, food....the list goes on and on. Regardless of whether I smoke or not still doesn't make alot of things right, just like this topic...eveybody is mad about one thing or another we all need to start bitching about the things that are important and not the little stuff like this.
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Post by thintwowin on Aug 9, 2011 14:53:43 GMT -5
Have you ever been addicted to nicotine ? Trust me u want them to have there smoke breaks. It would be hell in that plant!
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Post by ronniebass on Aug 9, 2011 17:04:50 GMT -5
Good Lord children, WTF are you doing. There are too many other problems going on than this petty bullshit. How about getting back on track and start thinking about what we're going to do when the contract is presented to us. I don't give a shit about your smoke breaks, piss breaks or games you want to play.
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Post by justmefornow on Aug 9, 2011 17:24:16 GMT -5
Kinda what I was thinking ronnie...I just hope they will all bitch and do the right thing contract time instead of worrying about the petty stuff!!!
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