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Post by autoslave502 on Jul 26, 2014 8:06:34 GMT -5
Walking outside on break the other day. A group was huddled around smoking n talking. Apparently rumor has it c crew is Going to be laid off. Reasons being. 1. Terrible quality on both models(escape and Lincoln). 2. We cant run(too many fixes too many bandaids) 3. We might lose the Lincoln. Anybody care to share what they've heard? That's a pretty nasty subject to talk about.but apparently this Rumor came from a union rep
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Post by lap65 on Jul 26, 2014 9:54:49 GMT -5
That rumor has been around awhile. Don't know how much truth there is to it but something to consider is 2 shifts working mon -sat can build exactly the same amount of trucks that 3 can build on a 4 day week. C crew has major issues with people coming to work I have never seen so many people coming in on other shifts just so they can run. When we had 2 shifts it rarely happened, now it is every weekend.
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Post by legacywannabe on Jul 26, 2014 10:01:09 GMT -5
This is why they are letting people go to ktp so many won't be laid off. Unfortunately many will have to go because lap is taking in a bunch of transfers from ohio. If you don't make the seniority cut you will be laid off.
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Post by rorschach on Jul 26, 2014 10:10:04 GMT -5
Do any of you have any legit facts on this? Sounds like a bunch of garbage like usual on here.
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Post by noneoftheabove on Jul 26, 2014 11:17:59 GMT -5
People coming in on other shifts applies to all shifts..so don't single out one crew..Lap is under staffed and bottom line is they need more people!!
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Post by ihatemyjob on Jul 26, 2014 11:23:22 GMT -5
LAP isn't understaffed, there are too many people abusing medical and FMLA and not coming to work.
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Post by noneoftheabove on Jul 26, 2014 11:32:23 GMT -5
If were not under staffed why are we bringing in transfers..c-crew is where other crews junk gets fixed..they ask every week for c-crew to work on off days.as far as junk goes go check your blue board and see what crew ships clean units!!!
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Post by ihatemyjob on Jul 26, 2014 19:03:19 GMT -5
Did you read what I wrote. There are too many people abusing medical, fmla and Awol's. That's why their aren't enough employees. Ford has plenty people on payrolls. People just won't come to work. And when LAP gets shutdown it will be those peoples fault.
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Post by legacywannabe on Jul 26, 2014 19:24:57 GMT -5
Nothing is happening to c crew or Lap as a whole. The order bank is high. The big wigs at Ford are impressed with our launch of the mkc.
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Post by noneoftheabove on Jul 26, 2014 19:42:17 GMT -5
Yes I read what u wrote and you fail to realize that AWOLs and FMLA have been going on for many years and will continue..sad to say..however no plant has ever lost a crew or shut down over it!!now back to my point of being under staffed.people can not get days off that they request so they AWOL or FMLA which goes right back to man power!!No crew will go any where..ford needs all the vehicles we can make..Believe half of what u see and nothing of what u hear.this place is worse than a prison grapevine!!! Have a nice day I'm out!!
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Post by zj on Jul 26, 2014 20:12:28 GMT -5
Ok . If the mkc is leaving lap. Which plant would get it . Wont be map. We hve better quality than they do. Lap is the only other plant which runs the c platform in north america . If anything within the next few years we will be adding a 3rd vehicle .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 21:07:33 GMT -5
LMAO!
The sky is falling the sky is falling!!!!!!!
The MKC and C crew are here to stay. When our order bank is at a 200 day supply, then you may worry.
End of story.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 21:08:39 GMT -5
Ok . If the mkc is leaving lap. Which plant would get it . Wont be map. We hve better quality than they do. Lap is the only other plant which runs the c platform in north america . If anything within the next few years we will be adding a 3rd vehicle . ^^^^^ Yep! 3rd vehicle by 2016, once the orders die down for the Escape.
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Post by lap65 on Jul 26, 2014 22:03:20 GMT -5
Yes people come in on all crews but no where near the amount of people as c crew at least in MH. As far as a 3rd vehicle, We don't have the space for the parts for the 2 we have now. Every day health & safety is calling making us move parts out of walkways or stacked too high. As soon as another shipment comes in they go right bsck to the same place because there is no more room. Always had awols? Yes but never on this level. No I don't believe all the rumors either but we do have major issues we haven't had before.
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Post by oh2ky on Jul 26, 2014 22:50:18 GMT -5
Orders for the escape would have to virtually disappear to accommodate a third vehicle. Space isn't there for the Lincoln. Very frustrating in material handling these days.
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Post by autoslave502 on Jul 27, 2014 12:19:25 GMT -5
My girls Facebook is flooded with Ford guys talking about being laid off and going to try to go work on the bridge construction?? C crew went home after 2 hours last night? Wtf is going on?
P.s. not saying her friends are telling truth.I don't know them.lol
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Post by noneoftheabove on Jul 27, 2014 13:05:40 GMT -5
C went 10.7 in final!!
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Post by ccrewdummie on Jul 27, 2014 14:06:43 GMT -5
CCrew went 2 hrs and went home? I guess myself and all of c crew didn't get that memo because we all worked 10.7. C crew was down for almost 4 hrs because of a break down. The AWOL/FMLA is just as bad today as it always has been. People are using their vacation time and some of the people who wanted OT to fill those spaces don't show up. Because I am low seniority it is hard to get a day off because the calendar is full. LAP and the world is coming to an end... Same story just different reasons. I was talking to one of the guys on the Lincoln launch. He has been with Ford 26 yrs. he said this is the best Lincoln launch Ford has had. That's hard for me to believe because it seems like nothing is going right but this is only my second launch with Ford and I hope it isn't my last.
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Post by lap65 on Jul 27, 2014 14:18:32 GMT -5
He might have told you that, but I've been here 22 years & its the worst I've ever seen. Im not saying we are losing a crew, losing the lincoln or whatever other rumor of the day is going around but I honestly don't understand how we build as many as we do with all the chaos. This launch has been the most unorganized poorly planned event I have ever seen anywhere at anytime.
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Jul 27, 2014 17:53:21 GMT -5
Thats the problem you are comparing this launch to other launches at THIS plant. Compared to other plants its about normal or better if you can believe that, I know its hard to...lol
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Post by w84me on Jul 27, 2014 19:11:08 GMT -5
Thats the problem you are comparing this launch to other launches at THIS plant. Compared to other plants its about normal or better if you can believe that, I know its hard to...lol OH NO IT'S NOT !
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Post by elmer on Jul 29, 2014 5:51:40 GMT -5
Here's what I know to being talked about at the high'est level AWOL and other issues has Ford talking about sending some of the Exsc work to another plant, just like they did when we build the EXPOL. ST. Louis got our over flow and LAP worked 2 shifts. This could happen again I don't think the decision has been made but it could if things don't improve soon.
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Post by lap65 on Jul 29, 2014 12:16:56 GMT -5
And....until we get rid of 2 tiers its not going to improve, people making half the pay & doing the same work arent nearly as worried about losing their job as people making full pay. I know they knew what they were getting when they came, Ive said it over & over but its still a fact that equal pay would fix a lot of this awol problem at least imho. People keep saying awols are no worse than they have ever been, but they are, they are a lot worse. When I hired in people with a couple years were scared to death to awol, now its no big deal.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 29, 2014 13:43:13 GMT -5
I guess they didn't check the new hires out like they did us.Hell it took 6 months of classes and shit when I was hired.I just think it's the lack of work ethic in the younger people.If I had a family to take care of and was making the lower wage id still HAVE to come in regardless of other peoples pay rate.But that's just me.I can see me as a younger man sayin fuck this shit if I didn't make full pay too though.But are there better jobs out there?Without a trade I doubt it.
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Post by fomocomonster on Jul 29, 2014 13:51:33 GMT -5
I got a good deal on a bridge! !
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Post by ccrewdummie on Jul 29, 2014 18:18:19 GMT -5
I guess we will all know what Ford really thinks about LAP next year.
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Post by noneoftheabove on Jul 29, 2014 21:33:09 GMT -5
All this is funny.I was talking with upper management yesterday and word is they are trying to buy more land to expand LAP!!as far as mor AWOL and FMLA most of u think its an over the top amout..most most of use come from plants with 2000 people were 21/2 times more so if u balance out the numbers were not that bad..I was also told C-crew is going no where!!we need everything we can build!!
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Post by lap65 on Jul 29, 2014 21:48:20 GMT -5
Your just as funny, I was told by upper management.......... that buying land to expand rumor has been around for 35 years. Problem is there's nothing to buy. We're blocked on every side
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Post by noneoftheabove on Jul 29, 2014 22:41:41 GMT -5
Why don't you go up north and run fomoco lap65,you seen to have an answer for everybody and everything!!!!
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Post by lap65 on Jul 29, 2014 23:25:15 GMT -5
I think you or me could probably do a better job. :-)
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