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Post by noneoftheabove on Aug 17, 2014 21:54:08 GMT -5
Time to get off your azz Mr.Chairman!! This local voted on a contract over 6months ago and have seen shit for return!!!We as union brothers and sisters demand that we receive what we voted for..Where's uniform allowance,where's Wi-Fi,where's new bathroom and gym??Get your head out of management's backside and do what your elected to do!!!I know I'm not the only one getting pissed off,so feel free!!
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Post by justaworker on Aug 17, 2014 21:57:42 GMT -5
Those are fair points. Have we seen any of the benefits from the local that reluctantly got passed?
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Post by rorschach on Aug 18, 2014 0:20:14 GMT -5
PREACH!
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Post by rukus on Aug 18, 2014 4:05:17 GMT -5
Barry is just like Stone...now that he 's in the drivers seat and he doesnt have to beg for your votes all of the promises will sit on the back burner ... They are working on the restrooms at f45 but that was in the retool masterplans to begin with ...it was getting built regardless, they just used that ploy to lure us in on a local contract that anybody has yet to see....Barry FORD*
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Post by ihatemyjob on Aug 18, 2014 4:21:50 GMT -5
Were you all under the impression that things would get done quickly after the contract was voted in? Because that's never been the case here. It's always taken a long time for uniforms, jackets, or anything else that was received through the local contract. It's nothing new.
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Post by justaworker on Aug 18, 2014 9:23:22 GMT -5
That's somewhat true. But when we give something up, it happens immediately. It's not too much to ask for the local to keep us informed with a time line for these improvements.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 18, 2014 11:43:37 GMT -5
never did understand why shit like a restroom or paint the lines in the parking lot or ice machines etc. would be part of OUR contract???Show me some money!!!I don't care if we don't have a restroom ,Ill piss in the floor,any Co. should take care of the building and its features.Why is it a SUPPOSINGLY BENEFIT for the workers?Even the gym Id rather have a .10 raise and go to the YMCA.They make it sound like they (union) are looking out for our best interests when really its just a bunch of BULLSHIT.JMHO tho.
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Post by roaddog on Aug 18, 2014 14:05:02 GMT -5
Yeah, How about some decent water fountains, the water In the plant tastes like mule piss !
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Post by drummer1165 on Aug 18, 2014 14:59:50 GMT -5
Time to get off your azz Mr.Chairman!! This local voted on a contract over 6months ago and have seen shit for return!!!We as union brothers and sisters demand that we receive what we voted for..Where's uniform allowance,where's Wi-Fi,where's new bathroom and gym??Get your head out of management's backside and do what your elected to do!!!I know I'm not the only one getting pissed off,so feel free!! Everyone needs to start raising hell at the union meetings. Let's fire these people up! Our union isn't anything if we sit back and let the officers do nothing. I did hear from Gary Cooper that the uniform situation is on hold because Ford wants to use Cintas and they are a non union company. Jimmy Settles I guess has taken this issue to Dearborn with him. Who is the idiot calling early breaks on C crew? That person needs to be fired, wow Ford hired a winner there! See you all at the next meeting, bring your balls!
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Post by luwinkle on Aug 18, 2014 17:31:30 GMT -5
Yeah, How about some decent water fountains, the water In the plant tastes like mule piss ! Get water from the ice machines. That actually tastes like water. The little fountain on my line tastes like chlorine, gives me dry mouth and makes me ill.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 17:54:38 GMT -5
Were you all under the impression that things would get done quickly after the contract was voted in? Because that's never been the case here. It's always taken a long time for uniforms, jackets, or anything else that was received through the local contract. It's nothing new. We know who you voted for. Donnie Mitchell and Bruce Day got shit done and kept their promises. Stone was a turd and Barry Ford is turd covered with nuts.
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Post by ihatemyjob on Aug 18, 2014 18:05:15 GMT -5
I'm not defending anyone. But anyone that's worked at this plant long enough knows anything we want or supposed to get takes forever and everything that Ford wants happens right away. If you haven't figured that out by now then your never going to.
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Post by new2ford on Aug 18, 2014 18:34:08 GMT -5
Time to get off your azz Mr.Chairman!! This local voted on a contract over 6months ago and have seen shit for return!!!We as union brothers and sisters demand that we receive what we voted for..Where's uniform allowance,where's Wi-Fi,where's new bathroom and gym??Get your head out of management's backside and do what your elected to do!!!I know I'm not the only one getting pissed off,so feel free!! Everyone needs to start raising hell at the union meetings. Let's fire these people up! Our union isn't anything if we sit back and let the officers do nothing. I did hear from Gary Cooper that the uniform situation is on hold because Ford wants to use Cintas and they are a non union company. Jimmy Settles I guess has taken this issue to Dearborn with him. Who is the idiot calling early breaks on C crew? That person needs to be fired, wow Ford hired a winner there! See you all at the next meeting, bring your balls! The uniform allowance was supposed to be a clothing allowance separate from the uniforms we already had. Ford does want to use Cintas but Barry Ford wants to use Arrow Uniforms which is just like Cintas except about half of their facilities are union-(not UAW) saw a flyer on the floor that showed a lady at their Dayton OH facility that is a UNION AVOIDANCE specialist. Why are we fighting to use this company?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? A UAW company that specializes in servicing these vouchers was passed over for this bullshit and I can bet it was due to a great night at some bar with a special kind of sales rep from Arrow. Our local contract expires in Sept. 2015, we are not going to get any of this shit. Why would WI FI take this long? And the gym? And the paper contracts? Why does the bid process take so long?? Is it to get the best bid or to make sure the union leaders get the best perks from the bid? ? One thing that needs to change is the bid process needs to be transparent and the membership should have some say. BTW I know Ford Motor Co. can do what they need to run the line but I have never seen them schedule and cancel weekends the way they are, its almost like they are trying to prove a point to someone that he is not GOD....although he says(in the union meeting) that he would not even argue with them over putting out a tentative schedule because they won't keep to it anyway (they can do that) and when questioned as to if that was really the best choice the guy asking the question was told it is MY decision and that is what I think is best. Way to represent!!!
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Post by 30yearsentence on Aug 18, 2014 18:40:25 GMT -5
Yeah, How about some decent water fountains, the water In the plant tastes like mule piss ! How do you know what mule piss tastes like? HeeHaw...HeeHaw
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 19:07:11 GMT -5
Everyone needs to start raising hell at the union meetings. Let's fire these people up! Our union isn't anything if we sit back and let the officers do nothing. I did hear from Gary Cooper that the uniform situation is on hold because Ford wants to use Cintas and they are a non union company. Jimmy Settles I guess has taken this issue to Dearborn with him. Who is the idiot calling early breaks on C crew? That person needs to be fired, wow Ford hired a winner there! See you all at the next meeting, bring your balls! The uniform allowance was supposed to be a clothing allowance separate from the uniforms we already had. Ford does want to use Cintas but Barry Ford wants to use Arrow Uniforms which is just like Cintas except about half of their facilities are union-(not UAW) saw a flyer on the floor that showed a lady at their Dayton OH facility that is a UNION AVOIDANCE specialist. Why are we fighting to use this company?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? A UAW company that specializes in servicing these vouchers was passed over for this bullshit and I can bet it was due to a great night at some bar with a special kind of sales rep from Arrow. Our local contract expires in Sept. 2015, we are not going to get any of this shit. Why would WI FI take this long? And the gym? And the paper contracts? Why does the bid process take so long?? Is it to get the best bid or to make sure the union leaders get the best perks from the bid? ? One thing that needs to change is the bid process needs to be transparent and the membership should have some say. BTW I know Ford Motor Co. can do what they need to run the line but I have never seen them schedule and cancel weekends the way they are, its almost like they are trying to prove a point to someone that he is not GOD....although he says(in the union meeting) that he would not even argue with them over putting out a tentative schedule because they won't keep to it anyway (they can do that) and when questioned as to if that was really the best choice the guy asking the question was told it is MY decision and that is what I think is best. Way to represent!!! Seems Barry Ford has a personal interest in this company. I dunno, maybe he is going to get a kick back or something? But using this anti-union company is BS.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 19:08:23 GMT -5
I'm not defending anyone. But anyone that's worked at this plant long enough knows anything we want or supposed to get takes forever and everything that Ford wants happens right away. If you haven't figured that out by now then your never going to. I got uniforms and coveralls every two years with no problem PRE STONE AND BARRY FORD days at LAP. I have no clue WTF you are talking about.
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Post by ihatemyjob on Aug 18, 2014 19:15:26 GMT -5
Your as full of shit as the day is long. You may have gotten coveralls every 2 years but uniforms were once per contract and the contract has been 4 years the last 3 contracts and they were 3 year contracts before that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 19:43:48 GMT -5
Your as full of shit as the day is long. You may have gotten coveralls every 2 years but uniforms were once per contract and the contract has been 4 years the last 3 contracts and they were 3 year contracts before that. Bam! Got you to just say it! Fishing you is easy. Yes we did get uniforms every contract! Didn't take two previous contracts like now. Since you are on the Barry wagon, see what he has to say about this.
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Post by ihatemyjob on Aug 18, 2014 19:52:41 GMT -5
You said you got uniforms every 2 years dip shit and that's an outright lie. And you won uniforms this time around and you still have 13 months to get them. So quit your fucking crying.
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Post by bulldognuts on Aug 18, 2014 21:11:36 GMT -5
I get a notification everyday on my phone wanting to know if I want to sign into ford guest wifi. So guest wifi already exist in plant. There may be other issues I'm unaware such as bandwidth capacity, but I believe that would be a easy fix with any competent IT person.
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Post by noneoftheabove on Aug 18, 2014 22:35:13 GMT -5
The last I herd WiFi was only for canteens and lunch room..I don't know for sure. My whole point is these clowns need to get off their azzes and start taking care of this membership.
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Post by tonyp on Aug 19, 2014 11:16:43 GMT -5
Why does it have to be just be breakrooms? You have football stadiums and bball arenas that have 20,000 to 60,000 people that use WiFi. Why can't it be plant wide?
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Post by noneoftheabove on Aug 19, 2014 12:39:58 GMT -5
Idk I'm just telling u what my electrician buddy told me..the reason being they don't want everyone on their phones while on the line.
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Post by tonyp on Aug 19, 2014 15:19:55 GMT -5
Everyone's on their phones already. But free WiFi would be nice to save data charges
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Post by Grimace on Aug 19, 2014 15:21:58 GMT -5
If we had wifi everywhere in the plant life would be so much better! dear facebook i am at work... dear facebook i am on break... dear facebook i got hit by a glove ball... dear facebook it's hot in here...
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Post by lap65 on Aug 19, 2014 16:54:21 GMT -5
Hilarious grimace. Dear facebook I cant believe that fork driver almost hit me while I was facebooking on this awesome wifi, walking in between racks in a no walk zone, with both ear buds in listening to my jams at the highest volume, while digging for my cigerettes. Whats wrong with him, isnt he watching where he's going?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 18:52:18 GMT -5
You said you got uniforms every 2 years dip shit and that's an outright lie. And you won uniforms this time around and you still have 13 months to get them. So quit your fucking crying. Resort to calling names now. You must be one of them GED grads I guess. Like I said, I fished you in. No lying on my part, got you to admit uniforms were given every contract.Yes I did get coveralls every two years, exception in 2004-2005, but yes, uniforms were every contract like I posted above. Maybe you can get your neighbor to read that and this for you as well so you will understand what Im telling you. Crying? I m not crying, but you have some serious BUTTHURT going on to be ranting like a spoiled 4 year old child.
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Post by ihatemyjob on Aug 19, 2014 19:14:19 GMT -5
You didn't fish anyone in. You got caught in a lie. And im not sure but I'm guessing uniforms were part of the cutbacks or concessions in the 2007 contract, you know when plants were closing and people were losing their jobs and losing Christmas bonuses and COLA and stuff like that. Actually now that I think about it. We got uniforms in that contract too I believe because that's when the t shirts were an option and not just the button up work shirts. You got uniforms in the 2000 contract and the 2003 contract and now in the 2011 contract. Uniforms were never given every 2 years. And YOU are the one on here pissing and moaning about not getting your free t shirts, gym and Wifi quick enough.
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Post by drummer1165 on Aug 19, 2014 20:29:47 GMT -5
Hilarious grimace. Dear facebook I cant believe that fork driver almost hit me while I was facebooking on this awesome wifi, walking in between racks in a no walk zone, with both ear buds in listening to my jams at the highest volume, while digging for my cigerettes. Whats wrong with him, isnt he watching where he's going? That is so true! You wouldn't believe the people I see walking staring at their phones.. Using the horn don't make them look up....so I level off then forks and slam them down behind them, hey now you see me....lol I see people driving cars staring at their phone, if your one of them just shoot yourself in the head instead of injuring or killing innocent people because of your stupidity!
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Post by oh2ky on Aug 19, 2014 22:19:32 GMT -5
Everyone's on their phones already. But free WiFi would be nice to save data charges Very true Tony. I think the difference being is with the WiFi, it wouldn't be just browsing Facebook and instagram. You would have people streaming movies and tv shows through Netflix, and Hulu and sports would be big too. That is probably the train of thought on Ford's part. They want to minimize distractions to try to protect quality. At least that's my guess anyway.
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