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Jun 19, 2015 18:34:24 GMT -5
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Post by bobio3 on Jun 19, 2015 18:34:24 GMT -5
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Jun 19, 2015 20:50:12 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 20:50:12 GMT -5
Negotiators at the Detroit car makers have said they are willing to be creative in lowering expenses, which they view as rising steeply over the course of the agreement due in part to a new federal tax scheduled to take effect in 2018 on the benefit-rich plans now offered to workers.
The effort could include forming a shared private exchange that would allow companies to use their combined scale to push for better costs and potentially negotiate with hospitals, doctors and other health providers directly, according to people familiar with the matter.
For one, we will be forced on obama-socialist-care in 2018. Two, I cant wait to see what hospitals and doctors we will be forced to go to under the UAW negotiated list. This will turn into an even bigger train wreck quick.
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Jun 19, 2015 21:16:47 GMT -5
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Post by thisplacesux on Jun 19, 2015 21:16:47 GMT -5
I agree, ain't much our union or company can do about the rising cost of health care though so they're forced to be creative. Either way we're fucked the way I see it. Oh, and while the nation was distracted the other day with the Charleston shooting part of the TPP passed through congress and is expected to breeze through the senate. Didn't see a peep about that on the main stream news did we? My point being that 99% of politicians in Washington are fucking our eyes out. They play the race card, social class card etc, anything at all to divide us so that they have even more power. It's absolutely sickening how far this country has degressed in the last 20 years. Rant over for now!
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Jun 19, 2015 21:36:12 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 21:36:12 GMT -5
I agree, ain't much our union or company can do about the rising cost of health care though so they're forced to be creative. Either way we're fucked the way I see it. Oh, and while the nation was distracted the other day with the Charleston shooting part of the TPP passed through congress and is expected to breeze through the senate. Didn't see a peep about that on the main stream news did we? My point being that 99% of politicians in Washington are fucking our eyes out. They play the race card, social class card etc, anything at all to divide us so that they have even more power. It's absolutely sickening how far this country has degressed in the last 20 years. Rant over for now! You wont see anything about obuma's trade policies in any UAW propaganda. The guy is practically killing our industry (KTP more than LAP) and the IUAW and its lemmings still think he is the greatest thing since socialism. He gave Korea an open door to import more KIA's and Hyundia's while the IUAW did nothing to protest.
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Post by justaworker on Jun 19, 2015 21:46:27 GMT -5
Dead on analspasm.... While the uaw is trying to convince us that the Republicans are the boogeyman, liberal leaders are the ones that keep fucking us. Clinton with Nafta, now Obama. They will never learn.
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Post by Ktp1989 on Jun 20, 2015 15:13:38 GMT -5
I agree, ain't much our union or company can do about the rising cost of health care though so they're forced to be creative. Either way we're fucked the way I see it. Oh, and while the nation was distracted the other day with the Charleston shooting part of the TPP passed through congress and is expected to breeze through the senate. Didn't see a peep about that on the main stream news did we? My point being that 99% of politicians in Washington are fucking our eyes out. They play the race card, social class card etc, anything at all to divide us so that they have even more power. It's absolutely sickening how far this country has degressed in the last 20 years. Rant over for now! You wont see anything about obuma's trade policies in any UAW propaganda. The guy is practically killing our industry (KTP more than LAP) and the IUAW and its lemmings still think he is the greatest thing since socialism. He gave Korea an open door to import more KIA's and Hyundia's while the IUAW did nothing to protest. False...I was at the Region 8 meeting last month and Ray Curry and everyone up North are against the TPP and spoke aganist it at the meets and actually stood next to Ford Motor Company and their top brass during the hearings to speak out against it. Obama has done a lot of good things for our industry...but this is not one of them and the international union is against it.
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Jun 20, 2015 15:34:23 GMT -5
Post by pmooret on Jun 20, 2015 15:34:23 GMT -5
Dead on analspasm.... While the uaw is trying to convince us that the Republicans are the boogeyman, liberal leaders are the ones that keep fucking us. Clinton with Nafta, now Obama. They will never learn. Of all people I'm keeping my eye on Donald Trump. He states in his speech that he will charge Mexico a 35% tariff which without coming out and saying so (don't want to alienate the GOP right off the bat) sounds like he would repeal NAFTA. He even used Ford Motor Co as an example. He also said that he would build a wall on the southern border and have Mexico to pay for it. I would image the money he gets from Mexican tariffs would be used to pay for the wall. Then he states he will immediately repeal Obamacare. So before the campaigning started I told myself that I would vote for a candidate who would: 1. REPEAL OBAMACARE 2. REPEAL NAFTA 3. CLOSE THE BORDERS 4. IMPLEMENT THE "FAIR TAX PLAN" To my surprise Donald Trump of all people has three out of four.
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Jun 20, 2015 17:06:34 GMT -5
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Jun 20, 2015 19:54:44 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 19:54:44 GMT -5
You wont see anything about obuma's trade policies in any UAW propaganda. The guy is practically killing our industry (KTP more than LAP) and the IUAW and its lemmings still think he is the greatest thing since socialism. He gave Korea an open door to import more KIA's and Hyundia's while the IUAW did nothing to protest. False...I was at the Region 8 meeting last month and Ray Curry and everyone up North are against the TPP and spoke aganist it at the meets and actually stood next to Ford Motor Company and their top brass during the hearings to speak out against it. Obama has done a lot of good things for our industry...but this is not one of them and the international union is against it. Region 8 meeting? That tells me all I need to know. We still give the libtards $ millions $ through CAP every year. Want to really protest? Cut the fucking CAP money off to the libtards! Our IUAW leadership and local 862 leadership would eat the corn out of obumas shit hole while he continues to fuck us. BTW, name one thing obuma has done for the auto industry, and do not say "Bailouts". G W Bush was the one who passed the bailouts and obuma signed them. Other than that all he has done is put stricter standards on our plants, automobiles, and let the Asians have less tax tariffs to import their shit here. So please, I'm begging you, please name ONE GOOD thing this dipshit has done for us.
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Jun 20, 2015 20:27:20 GMT -5
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Post by thisplacesux on Jun 20, 2015 20:27:20 GMT -5
thestand.liberty.me/congressman-massies-500-yard-run-that-is-driving-congress-crazy/This will give you guys just a small glimpse of just how our government works. Thomas just happens to be my rep. and seems to be doing the will of his constituents but he's just one man. We're fighting an uphill battle but the best thing we can do is to get the truth out. Think for yourselves, don't vote for so and so just because they are endorsed by the UAW or they have the same skin color as you or whatever. Quit listening to what they say and watch what they are doing? For instance, Obama and Hitlery both came out in opposition of guns this week in wake of the Charleston murders yet they have no problem arming Mexican drug lords and Syrian Rebels on our dime.
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Jun 20, 2015 23:03:45 GMT -5
Post by trinitus on Jun 20, 2015 23:03:45 GMT -5
False...I was at the Region 8 meeting last month and Ray Curry and everyone up North are against the TPP and spoke aganist it at the meets and actually stood next to Ford Motor Company and their top brass during the hearings to speak out against it. Obama has done a lot of good things for our industry...but this is not one of them and the international union is against it. Region 8 meeting? That tells me all I need to know. We still give the libtards $ millions $ through CAP every year. Want to really protest? Cut the fucking CAP money off to the libtards! Our IUAW leadership and local 862 leadership would eat the corn out of obumas shit hole while he continues to fuck us. BTW, name one thing obuma has done for the auto industry, and do not say "Bailouts". G W Bush was the one who passed the bailouts and obuma signed them. Other than that all he has done is put stricter standards on our plants, automobiles, and let the Asians have less tax tariffs to import their shit here. So please, I'm begging you, please name ONE GOOD thing this dipshit has done for us. For starter's, G. W. Bush ONLY passed a small amount of money to keep the auto industry afloat until he left office. His word's were in this some sort of line " I will give/loan the auto industry an X amount of money UNTIL the next President takes office and then he can do what ever he want's to do for them if anything". Obama was the one that made it possible for both GM and Chrysler to NOT go under. Other than that you are correct about everything else.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 23:04:23 GMT -5
thestand.liberty.me/congressman-massies-500-yard-run-that-is-driving-congress-crazy/This will give you guys just a small glimpse of just how our government works. Thomas just happens to be my rep. and seems to be doing the will of his constituents but he's just one man. We're fighting an uphill battle but the best thing we can do is to get the truth out. Think for yourselves, don't vote for so and so just because they are endorsed by the UAW or they have the same skin color as you or whatever. Quit listening to what they say and watch what they are doing? For instance, Obama and Hitlery both came out in opposition of guns this week in wake of the Charleston murders yet they have no problem arming Mexican drug lords and Syrian Rebels on our dime. Thank God there are a few of us that think for ourselves and don't let the UAW or the mainstream media shove bullshit down our throats daily. The power of learning and researching on your own will only make you more intelligent.
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Jun 21, 2015 18:09:02 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2015 18:09:02 GMT -5
Region 8 meeting? That tells me all I need to know. We still give the libtards $ millions $ through CAP every year. Want to really protest? Cut the fucking CAP money off to the libtards! Our IUAW leadership and local 862 leadership would eat the corn out of obumas shit hole while he continues to fuck us. BTW, name one thing obuma has done for the auto industry, and do not say "Bailouts". G W Bush was the one who passed the bailouts and obuma signed them. Other than that all he has done is put stricter standards on our plants, automobiles, and let the Asians have less tax tariffs to import their shit here. So please, I'm begging you, please name ONE GOOD thing this dipshit has done for us. For starter's, G. W. Bush ONLY passed a small amount of money to keep the auto industry afloat until he left office. His word's were in this some sort of line " I will give/loan the auto industry an X amount of money UNTIL the next President takes office and then he can do what ever he want's to do for them if anything". Obama was the one that made it possible for both GM and Chrysler to NOT go under. Other than that you are correct about everything else. You are correct as well. Bush could of sank them too and told them to go pound sand and file Chapter 11. Im no fan of Bush, and I pray like Hell Jeb doesn't get the GOP nomination but it was Bush that laid the foundation for the Bail Outs. obuma is not the savior the UAW makes him out to be.
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Jun 22, 2015 8:20:02 GMT -5
Post by JoePieper on Jun 22, 2015 8:20:02 GMT -5
So UAW how is that "hope and change" working out for you?
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Post by coconut on Jun 22, 2015 11:53:13 GMT -5
As far as healthcare, if the IUAW negotiates for a different system, we can say goodbye to our family doctors , specialists and hospitals we use and trust. They will make it so no doctor or hospital will want to business with them under their terms and payments. We will all be f...ed. We won't be able to find quality healthcare or hospitals. But they want to save us and them money. Ha. Just like a previous poster said it's going to be a train wreck if they do that. A mass causality train wreck and we and our families are going to be the victims. Don't let them do this. I would strike over this alone. My doctor and specialists and preferred hospitals mean that much to me. If I don't have my health, I have nothing.
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Jun 22, 2015 18:50:53 GMT -5
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Post by toddstang on Jun 22, 2015 18:50:53 GMT -5
Amen! Coconut!
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