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Post by tiger66 on Jul 10, 2015 10:12:56 GMT -5
Ford is starting their bullshit early. To the UAW: if ford decides they are moving production to Mexico their going to do it regardless. If they move 1/2 the production in the US to Mexico, the workers left in the US wants to get paid. Show me the $$$$$!!!!!!!!!
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Post by remember1976 on Jul 11, 2015 5:56:40 GMT -5
Go to the Blue Oval News employee forum and get the straight dope. A new product to replace the Focus and C-Max is already in the works.
But all you reactionary fear-mongers out there.... don't let that stop you. The company loves to keep you frightened. Keep fretting!
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Post by lap65 on Jul 11, 2015 9:17:31 GMT -5
While I agree that this is a fear tactic strategically timed, blue oval is no more a bastion of truth than this site is.Lol Some good info there, a lot of speculation.
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Post by TonyV on Jul 12, 2015 13:04:19 GMT -5
2018 is when the UAW loses their exemption from Obamacare. The company will be fined for every employee they provide healthcare for. They will be hit twice for healthcare for each employee.
Job relocation out of the U.S. will accelerate at an all time high as businesses try to keep rising costs at bay. We will be on Obamacare by this point in time. Plan for it.
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Post by remember1976 on Jul 13, 2015 19:23:06 GMT -5
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Post by daveb on Jul 13, 2015 20:22:18 GMT -5
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Post by daveb on Jul 13, 2015 20:24:40 GMT -5
The idea behind the tax isn’t to raise money: It’s to change behavior. The hope is that it will pressure employers and workers to choose less-expensive plans. If it works, additional tax revenue will be generated less by so-called “Cadillac” plans subject to the excise tax than by employers delivering more of their workers’ compensation in the form of taxable wages and less in the form of expensive health-care benefits.
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Post by rockyt on Jul 13, 2015 21:11:24 GMT -5
As I understand it, the tax doesn't kick in unless the value of the plan is more than $10,200 for an individual plan or $27,500 for a family plan. According to my W-2 the value of my family plan last year was $18,252, far short of the threshold for the "Cadillac Tax" to kick in.
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Post by toddstang on Jul 14, 2015 4:31:53 GMT -5
This is why Ford is going to give us a list of doctors and hospitals for our new health plan. Equivalent to that of a prison.
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Post by remember1976 on Jul 14, 2015 5:38:09 GMT -5
As I understand it, the tax doesn't kick in unless the value of the plan is more than $10,200 for an individual plan or $27,500 for a family plan. According to my W-2 the value of my family plan last year was $18,252, far short of the threshold for the "Cadillac Tax" to kick in. Correct. The Ford/UAW hourly employee healthcare package as it stands now does not qualify for the so-called "Cadillac Tax." The ideological opponents of the ACA have flooded social media with a ton of misinformation.
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Post by remember1976 on Jul 14, 2015 5:43:11 GMT -5
This is why Ford is going to give us a list of doctors and hospitals for our new health plan. Equivalent to that of a prison. They are? How is it you are privy to such information? As far as I know the details of our healthcare are negotiated every 4 years between the UAW and Ford. Those negotiations just began yesterday morning. Any detail of our new contract at this point is PURE speculation.
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Post by tryingtomakeit on Jul 14, 2015 7:43:41 GMT -5
The contract is negotiated every four years. The healthcare is every March.
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Post by lap65 on Jul 14, 2015 8:38:21 GMT -5
The contract is negotiated every four years. The healthcare is every March. Correct
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Post by lap65 on Jul 14, 2015 9:21:33 GMT -5
Huffington Post, another very reliable source lol!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 9:53:16 GMT -5
Healthcare isn't negotiated every march. The cost structure is negotiated every four years. Coverage is adjusted annually to stay within that cost structure.
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Post by knowthebiz on Jul 14, 2015 10:46:20 GMT -5
With healthcare, if you are on the Humana plan the deductibles and such can be changed yearly and if you have blue cross blue shield the cost doesn't change for the course of the four year contract.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 14, 2015 13:55:05 GMT -5
Whenever its negotiated doesn't matter..They can and have changed it in the middle of a contract..I was told back in 95 that all they (ford) has do contractually is provide insurance and can change anything anytime(carriers,deductibles,prescriptions).When I started no OV cost and free drugs.Then drugs went to 5 and well, we all Know what happened after that..Present day BS.But at least we have insurance!!Isnt that what I'm supposed to say?lol
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Post by remember1976 on Jul 14, 2015 15:31:46 GMT -5
Healthcare isn't negotiated every march. The cost structure is negotiated every four years. Coverage is adjusted annually to stay within that cost structure. Correct. With healthcare, if you are on the Humana plan the deductibles and such can be changed yearly and if you have blue cross blue shield the cost doesn't change for the course of the four year contract. Correct. And we have the option of switching between the two. The misinformation on this forum about Ford/UAW hourly employee healthcare and the ACA is breathtaking. Just one reason why I do not rely upon this website for anything beyond rumor.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 21:49:35 GMT -5
My problem with obamacare is the fact that there is no health care crisis. Not at all. When our economy was thriving for the working class( 1975 was the beginning of the end. Once our govt saw what the French had done in Vietnam , but that's another story) there was no govt subsidized healthcare. It wasn't needed because there were decent jobs for everyone. Today we have a " good job" crisis not a healthcare crisis. Govt healthcare( or lack thereof) cannot solve the problem, since it doesn't even address the REAL problem. JOBS JOBS JOBS
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