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Post by brizzel on Mar 21, 2016 21:37:42 GMT -5
It's nice of the union to allow c crew to become part time employees until after shutdown. Majority of c crew employees will not receive short work week. This to me is what the union is there for, protection of the workers. I hope the union dues taken from them will be adjusted accordingly. No chance of that happening.
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Post by ktpgirl on Mar 21, 2016 22:09:25 GMT -5
It's nice of the union to allow c crew to become part time employees until after shutdown. Majority of c crew employees will not receive short work week. This to me is what the union is there for, protection of the workers. I hope the union dues taken from them will be adjusted accordingly. No chance of that happening. I still don't understand why we went to 3 crews if we are going to just work 8 every night. Not only is it downright dirty to short change the new hires, it screws us out of our OT that us who want to work it deserve! Im with the majority that C crew will last a maximum of 3 years but who knows
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Post by lapwasktp on Mar 22, 2016 3:15:16 GMT -5
Haha Welcome to the New Ford, KTP.. C Crew appears to be often used to make up production or take away the excessive overtime from A and B crews.. We can now make more units with cheaper labor (C crew) or less units and reduce overtime on the other shifts.. Simple Math... Hope you saved your coins these last few years... OT will most likely dry up... It's good buisness.. It helps us remain competitive...
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Post by JoePieper on Mar 22, 2016 3:20:22 GMT -5
10.7 For C Crew in Paint/Body
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Post by ktpgirl on Mar 22, 2016 5:29:55 GMT -5
Haha Welcome to the New Ford, KTP.. C Crew appears to be often used to make up production or take away the excessive overtime from A and B crews.. We can now make more units with cheaper labor (C crew) or less units and reduce overtime on the other shifts.. Simple Math... Hope you saved your coins these last few years... OT will most likely dry up... It's good buisness.. It helps us remain competitive... Im pretty sure we already know all of this, but thank you Captain Obvious.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Mar 22, 2016 8:44:05 GMT -5
It's nice of the union to allow c crew to become part time employees until after shutdown. Majority of c crew employees will not receive short work week. This to me is what the union is there for, protection of the workers. I hope the union dues taken from them will be adjusted accordingly. No chance of that happening. Why is that because of all the new hires with less than 90 days?If so how is that the unions fault?We all went thru it.Just wondering?.When we hired in for B crew in 95 we actually went thru the same crap.We would work 30 or 32 hours a week.I got behind on bills and all kinda shit ,then it started rolling and holy shit 5 ten hour days and every other Saturday.That sucked.Im sure it will blow up when new body and paint get up to full capacity.
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Post by lapwasktp on Mar 22, 2016 10:00:22 GMT -5
ktpgirl, you asked the question ?? Here's the answer.. (( Nothing is OBVIOUS to you.)) I've seen some of your post.. The Simple Math in my answer was for you miss experienced. I don't know why you ask questions. You know everything?? haha
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Post by blackbird66 on Mar 22, 2016 12:01:48 GMT -5
Haha Welcome to the New Ford, KTP.. C Crew appears to be often used to make up production or take away the excessive overtime from A and B crews.. We can now make more units with cheaper labor (C crew) or less units and reduce overtime on the other shifts.. Simple Math... Hope you saved your coins these last few years... OT will most likely dry up... It's good buisness.. It helps us remain competitive... Actually overtime is desirable for FoMoCo. Overtime is cheaper than straight time+benefits. So the model has been ( for as long as I know at least) industry wide, to have as few employees as possible and use a good amount of overtime. This new shift launch is a transition. You will likely see a lot of anomalies in the process, but it's just a season.
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Post by ktpgirl on Mar 22, 2016 12:37:05 GMT -5
ktpgirl, you asked the question ?? Here's the answer.. (( Nothing is OBVIOUS to you.)) I've seen some of your post.. The Simple Math in my answer was for you miss experienced. I don't know why you ask questions. You know everything?? haha I asked why we were only going 8 hours. You answered back with a smart ass remark about how its funny that people are losing OT and how we should have saved and blah blah blah. Most of us have been through the 3 crew process a few times. We don't need your condensending answer. But Im glad you think its funny that new hires dont get short work week and people who may really need the OT are losing it. Does that explain it? Ha ha!
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Mar 24, 2016 7:33:45 GMT -5
So how long is this going to last?
We've heard all the way until new model, after shutdown.
That's just INSANE that we'd hire a crew, and work short for 3 months......
So what's the word?
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Post by ktp99 on Mar 24, 2016 14:36:41 GMT -5
I guess they like giving away free money! I asked union rep on Monday, he pretty much said until shutdown, but wouldn't come straight out and say it.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Mar 24, 2016 19:40:25 GMT -5
After shutdown is correct... Until the new body shop is building 2017s, we are building all we need for now.
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Post by thintwowin on Mar 28, 2016 15:09:35 GMT -5
Hearing they may lay c crew off until July . Heard venders have not rolled out thier c crews and can't keep up. Rumor of course.
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Post by 30yearpace on Mar 29, 2016 4:37:15 GMT -5
They won't just lay one shift off. The Shift lay-off, if there is one will be rotated just like it has been in the past.
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Post by brizzel on Mar 29, 2016 11:32:31 GMT -5
They should have made sure that the suppliers were up to speed before implementation of c crew. We supposedly need all available production.
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Post by thintwowin on Mar 29, 2016 12:57:20 GMT -5
They should have made sure that the suppliers were up to speed before implementation of c crew. We supposedly need all available production. Nope they won't have to pay the new hires anything to be laid off. No rotation this time.
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Post by ktp99 on Mar 29, 2016 13:41:00 GMT -5
They should have made sure that the suppliers were up to speed before implementation of c crew. We supposedly need all available production. Nope they won't have to pay the new hires anything to be laid off. No rotation this time. That makes to much sense for Ford to make sure that the suppliers was up to speed.
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Post by brizzel on Mar 29, 2016 16:43:55 GMT -5
They should have made sure that the suppliers were up to speed before implementation of c crew. We supposedly need all available production. Nope they won't have to pay the new hires anything to be laid off. No rotation this time. Not everyone on c crew is a new hire.
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Post by justaworker on Mar 29, 2016 19:12:26 GMT -5
Nope they won't have to pay the new hires anything to be laid off. No rotation this time. Not everyone on c crew is a new hire. No, but most are.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Mar 29, 2016 19:18:40 GMT -5
How does one know "that there will be no rotation"?this time?They ain't laying nobody off I would bet on it..
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Post by rkr on Mar 29, 2016 20:06:35 GMT -5
No one is getting laid off! This was part of it all along!
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Post by lap65 on Mar 29, 2016 21:41:51 GMT -5
Nope they won't have to pay the new hires anything to be laid off. No rotation this time. That makes to much sense for Ford to make sure that the suppliers was up to speed. Suppliers up to speed, now theres a concept. We've had 1 supplier, Wilbert that still isnt up to speed with the escape, we constantly are waiting on parts from them, yet we keep renewing their contract year after year.
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Post by Bcrew4life on Mar 30, 2016 0:40:34 GMT -5
That makes to much sense for Ford to make sure that the suppliers was up to speed. Suppliers up to speed, now theres a concept. We've had 1 supplier, Wilbert that still isnt up to speed with the escape, we constantly are waiting on parts from them, yet we keep renewing their contract year after year. Is Wilbert the cause of A & B crew going short Tuesday? I bet our holiday pay will be all fucked up this week.
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Post by lap65 on Mar 30, 2016 16:37:37 GMT -5
No not this time
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Mar 31, 2016 15:35:38 GMT -5
It is, quite frankly, a DICK move.
If they didn't "plan" on this, then they're clueless.
If they did, they (union and co.) hired hundreds of people and withheld important information about what they should expect their income to be FOR MONTHS.
It's a DICK move, and the union might be complicit.
The worst part about it is they've intentionally pissed off a whole class of new hires.
Assholes.
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Post by brizzel on Mar 31, 2016 16:57:52 GMT -5
What is this "dick move" you speak of?
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Post by blackbird66 on Mar 31, 2016 18:24:36 GMT -5
It is, quite frankly, a DICK move. If they didn't "plan" on this, then they're clueless. If they did, they (union and co.) hired hundreds of people and withheld important information about what they should expect their income to be FOR MONTHS. It's a DICK move, and the union might be complicit. The worst part about it is they've intentionally pissed off a whole class of new hires. Assholes. Can we hold off a little judgment until the rumor becomes reality? Ford clueless? Sure seems that way Pissed off new hires? Given the latest contract, it would appear that they're all quite expendable......
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Post by brizzel on Mar 31, 2016 18:31:14 GMT -5
What's the rumor?
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Mar 31, 2016 18:48:52 GMT -5
Well, I was told we need the same production, but now we're running 12 shifts instead of 10.
And that won't change much, if at all, until new model
Rumors?
Anybody gotten 40 hrs the last two weeks?
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Post by brizzel on Mar 31, 2016 19:33:05 GMT -5
Less than 40 last week. Why no short work week?
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