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Post by bulldognuts on Jul 25, 2014 19:48:04 GMT -5
One thing that I do not believe anybody pointed out is that attendance at union meetings is very low. I believe that if we want to get the union to actually start listening to our problems with what they are doing or not doing, is more people need to attend. These guys are basically politicians, once they are elected, they know very few people will show up at meetings and hold union accountable for their actions. Overall if you look at how many people vote it is usually pretty low, but politicians know that older people vote so they will rarely talk about cutting social security, or any programs that affect older generations. The same is true for union reps. they know that they are not being held accountable accept when it is time to get reelected. The way to get our union back is to show up to the union meetings every month in large numbers. Start asking questions, let them know we are paying attention and expect more and better representation. When you are in the plant and see a supervisor doing hourly employees work call your rep and file a grievance. Start holding management accountable. If your rep doesn't do anything about obvious safety or work rule violations show up at meeting and call them out. There is lot more to say about the problems with the union, but the truth is we are the union, and until we start attending meetings and voice our concerns we are going to get the union we deserve. The final thing that I want to say is that I am guilty of all of the above and intend to change, because am sick of seeing what is happening out on the floor everyday. I believe that if every one that reads this starts going to meetings and try to get one person they work with to go to union meeting that we can take back control of "OUR" union.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 20:37:11 GMT -5
I agree 100% Bulldog. Problem is that too many bobble headed yes men and women sit up front at these meetings and will shun you like a whore in church when you speak. You know, the people who don't actually work inside the plant but are seen seldom walking through every now and then.
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Post by cal50 on Jul 25, 2014 21:22:38 GMT -5
" and the BS about the Koch bros." BS about the Koch bros? Forbes article: Koch Brothers Behind Wisconsin Effort To Kill Public Unions As the nation focuses on the efforts of Governor Scott Walker to take away collective bargaining rights from public employees in Wisconsin, new information is coming to light that reveals what is truly going on here. Mother Jones is reporting that much of the funding behind the Walker for Governor campaign came from none other than uber-conservatives, the infamous Koch Brothers. What’s more, the plan to kill the unions is right out of the Koch Brothers play book.Koch-backed groups like Americans for Prosperity, the Cato Institute, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and the Reason Foundation have long taken a very antagonistic view toward public-sector unions. Several of these groups have urged the eradication of these unions. The Kochs also invited Mark Mix, president of the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, an anti-union outfit, to a June 2010 confab in Aspen, Colorado; Via Mother Jones If you are reluctant to believe that this is a coordinated attack, consider this- This afternoon, Marty Beil, executive director of the Wisconsin Public Workers Union, sent a message to the Governor’s office agreeing to the cuts to pension & welfare benefits sought by Walker in his bill. The governor’s response was “nothing doing.” He wants the whole kit and kaboodle – the end of the collective bargaining rights of the public unions. As noted in my earlier post, this is, indeed, the first shot in the final battle to end unionism in America. UPDATE: The Americans for Prosperity group, a Tea Party group that is a Koch Brothers front, has put up a website and petition called www.standwithwalker.com. The website attacks all collective bargaining – not just for public employees’ unions. Americans for Prosperity is also organizing a rally tomorrow in Wisconsin to support Gov. Walker. Why are the Koch Brothers so interested in Wisconsin? They are a major business player in the state. This from Think Progress: Koch owns a coal company subsidiary with facilities in Green Bay, Manitowoc, Ashland and Sheboygan; six timber plants throughout the state; and a large network of pipelines in Wisconsin. While Koch controls much of the infrastructure in the state, they have laid off workers to boost profits. At a time when Koch Industries owners David and Charles Koch awarded themselves an extra $11 billion of income from the company, Koch slashed jobs at their Green Bay plant: Officials at Georgia-Pacific said the company is laying off 158 workers at its Day Street plant because out-of-date equipment at the facility is being replaced with newer, more-efficient equipment. The company said much of the new, papermaking equipment will be automated. [...] Malach tells FOX 11 that the layoffs are not because of a drop in demand. In fact, Malach said demand is high for the bath tissue and napkins manufactured at the plant. You really have to wonder how long it will take for Tea Party devotees to realize just how badly they are being used. Ah the Koch brothers...... Regardless of their personal views the vote to limit collective bargaining of wages & benefits for state employees of Wisconsin was passed in the state house. Challenged in court and upheld. Walker also survived a recall election (won by 53%) so the citizens of Wisconsin voted and decided for themselves and the Koch brothers had nothing to do with vote, courts decision / ruling or the people of Wisconsin voting in the recall election. The key difference is the Wisconsin decision only affects PUBLIC unions or those on the tax payers dollar, not private sector unions. Actually they are on the same bargaining tier as all federal employees. The Koch brothers have influence like a Soro's or any other political activist with deep pockets. www.suntimes.com/news/huntley/12967643-452/wisconsin-govs-collective-bargaining-reforms-have-been-resounding-success.html#.U9MQqGP4Gnw
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Post by bulldognuts on Jul 25, 2014 22:29:02 GMT -5
I agree 100% Bulldog. Problem is that too many bobble headed yes men and women sit up front at these meetings and will shun you like a whore in church when you speak. You know, the people who don't actually work inside the plant but are seen seldom walking through every now and then. I hear what you are saying and do not disagree, I believe that if enough of us start showing up it will get the bobbleheads attention, especially if we start outnumbering them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 23:15:11 GMT -5
" and the BS about the Koch bros." BS about the Koch bros? Forbes article: Koch Brothers Behind Wisconsin Effort To Kill Public Unions As the nation focuses on the efforts of Governor Scott Walker to take away collective bargaining rights from public employees in Wisconsin, new information is coming to light that reveals what is truly going on here. Mother Jones is reporting that much of the funding behind the Walker for Governor campaign came from none other than uber-conservatives, the infamous Koch Brothers. What’s more, the plan to kill the unions is right out of the Koch Brothers play book.Koch-backed groups like Americans for Prosperity, the Cato Institute, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and the Reason Foundation have long taken a very antagonistic view toward public-sector unions. Several of these groups have urged the eradication of these unions. The Kochs also invited Mark Mix, president of the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, an anti-union outfit, to a June 2010 confab in Aspen, Colorado; Via Mother Jones If you are reluctant to believe that this is a coordinated attack, consider this- This afternoon, Marty Beil, executive director of the Wisconsin Public Workers Union, sent a message to the Governor’s office agreeing to the cuts to pension & welfare benefits sought by Walker in his bill. The governor’s response was “nothing doing.” He wants the whole kit and kaboodle – the end of the collective bargaining rights of the public unions. As noted in my earlier post, this is, indeed, the first shot in the final battle to end unionism in America. UPDATE: The Americans for Prosperity group, a Tea Party group that is a Koch Brothers front, has put up a website and petition called www.standwithwalker.com. The website attacks all collective bargaining – not just for public employees’ unions. Americans for Prosperity is also organizing a rally tomorrow in Wisconsin to support Gov. Walker. Why are the Koch Brothers so interested in Wisconsin? They are a major business player in the state. This from Think Progress: Koch owns a coal company subsidiary with facilities in Green Bay, Manitowoc, Ashland and Sheboygan; six timber plants throughout the state; and a large network of pipelines in Wisconsin. While Koch controls much of the infrastructure in the state, they have laid off workers to boost profits. At a time when Koch Industries owners David and Charles Koch awarded themselves an extra $11 billion of income from the company, Koch slashed jobs at their Green Bay plant: Officials at Georgia-Pacific said the company is laying off 158 workers at its Day Street plant because out-of-date equipment at the facility is being replaced with newer, more-efficient equipment. The company said much of the new, papermaking equipment will be automated. [...] Malach tells FOX 11 that the layoffs are not because of a drop in demand. In fact, Malach said demand is high for the bath tissue and napkins manufactured at the plant. You really have to wonder how long it will take for Tea Party devotees to realize just how badly they are being used. Ah the Koch brothers...... Regardless of their personal views the vote to limit collective bargaining of wages & benefits for state employees of Wisconsin was passed in the state house. Challenged in court and upheld. Walker also survived a recall election (won by 53%) so the citizens of Wisconsin voted and decided for themselves and the Koch brothers had nothing to do with vote, courts decision / ruling or the people of Wisconsin voting in the recall election. The key difference is the Wisconsin decision only affects PUBLIC unions or those on the tax payers dollar, not private sector unions. Actually they are on the same bargaining tier as all federal employees. The Koch brothers have influence like a Soro's or any other political activist with deep pockets. www.suntimes.com/news/huntley/12967643-452/wisconsin-govs-collective-bargaining-reforms-have-been-resounding-success.html#.U9MQqGP4GnwBingo! But they never want to face facts that it goes both ways.
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Post by cal50 on Jul 26, 2014 0:11:25 GMT -5
People like to cry about the Koch Bros. or similar but they are just a couple people spending their money (like Soros) on things that matter to them. I find them less offensive than our dues being funneled to any / only democrats up for election or re-election. ( 96% Spent for Democrats ) www.unionfacts.com/union/United_Auto_Workers#political-tabwww.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000070If you are blindly supporting only one party without knowing anything about that person or their competitor running for office you are an idiot.Blindly supporting only one party each and every time as the "best" candidate its statistically impossible. I would rather my dues be spent ON the membership and zero going to any politician.
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Post by saugerman on Jul 26, 2014 2:24:04 GMT -5
" and the BS about the Koch bros." BS about the Koch bros? Forbes article: Koch Brothers Behind Wisconsin Effort To Kill Public Unions As the nation focuses on the efforts of Governor Scott Walker to take away collective bargaining rights from public employees in Wisconsin, new information is coming to light that reveals what is truly going on here. Mother Jones is reporting that much of the funding behind the Walker for Governor campaign came from none other than uber-conservatives, the infamous Koch Brothers. What’s more, the plan to kill the unions is right out of the Koch Brothers play book.Koch-backed groups like Americans for Prosperity, the Cato Institute, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and the Reason Foundation have long taken a very antagonistic view toward public-sector unions. Several of these groups have urged the eradication of these unions. The Kochs also invited Mark Mix, president of the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, an anti-union outfit, to a June 2010 confab in Aspen, Colorado; Via Mother Jones If you are reluctant to believe that this is a coordinated attack, consider this- This afternoon, Marty Beil, executive director of the Wisconsin Public Workers Union, sent a message to the Governor’s office agreeing to the cuts to pension & welfare benefits sought by Walker in his bill. The governor’s response was “nothing doing.” He wants the whole kit and kaboodle – the end of the collective bargaining rights of the public unions. As noted in my earlier post, this is, indeed, the first shot in the final battle to end unionism in America. UPDATE: The Americans for Prosperity group, a Tea Party group that is a Koch Brothers front, has put up a website and petition called www.standwithwalker.com. The website attacks all collective bargaining – not just for public employees’ unions. Americans for Prosperity is also organizing a rally tomorrow in Wisconsin to support Gov. Walker. Why are the Koch Brothers so interested in Wisconsin? They are a major business player in the state. This from Think Progress: Koch owns a coal company subsidiary with facilities in Green Bay, Manitowoc, Ashland and Sheboygan; six timber plants throughout the state; and a large network of pipelines in Wisconsin. While Koch controls much of the infrastructure in the state, they have laid off workers to boost profits. At a time when Koch Industries owners David and Charles Koch awarded themselves an extra $11 billion of income from the company, Koch slashed jobs at their Green Bay plant: Officials at Georgia-Pacific said the company is laying off 158 workers at its Day Street plant because out-of-date equipment at the facility is being replaced with newer, more-efficient equipment. The company said much of the new, papermaking equipment will be automated. [...] Malach tells FOX 11 that the layoffs are not because of a drop in demand. In fact, Malach said demand is high for the bath tissue and napkins manufactured at the plant. You really have to wonder how long it will take for Tea Party devotees to realize just how badly they are being used. They should stop trying to destroy our union...Jimmy Settles and the gang in Dearborn don't need the competition....LOL
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Post by saugerman on Jul 26, 2014 2:27:44 GMT -5
" and the BS about the Koch bros." BS about the Koch bros? Forbes article: Koch Brothers Behind Wisconsin Effort To Kill Public Unions As the nation focuses on the efforts of Governor Scott Walker to take away collective bargaining rights from public employees in Wisconsin, new information is coming to light that reveals what is truly going on here. Mother Jones is reporting that much of the funding behind the Walker for Governor campaign came from none other than uber-conservatives, the infamous Koch Brothers. What’s more, the plan to kill the unions is right out of the Koch Brothers play book.Koch-backed groups like Americans for Prosperity, the Cato Institute, the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and the Reason Foundation have long taken a very antagonistic view toward public-sector unions. Several of these groups have urged the eradication of these unions. The Kochs also invited Mark Mix, president of the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation, an anti-union outfit, to a June 2010 confab in Aspen, Colorado; Via Mother Jones If you are reluctant to believe that this is a coordinated attack, consider this- This afternoon, Marty Beil, executive director of the Wisconsin Public Workers Union, sent a message to the Governor’s office agreeing to the cuts to pension & welfare benefits sought by Walker in his bill. The governor’s response was “nothing doing.” He wants the whole kit and kaboodle – the end of the collective bargaining rights of the public unions. As noted in my earlier post, this is, indeed, the first shot in the final battle to end unionism in America. UPDATE: The Americans for Prosperity group, a Tea Party group that is a Koch Brothers front, has put up a website and petition called www.standwithwalker.com. The website attacks all collective bargaining – not just for public employees’ unions. Americans for Prosperity is also organizing a rally tomorrow in Wisconsin to support Gov. Walker. Why are the Koch Brothers so interested in Wisconsin? They are a major business player in the state. This from Think Progress: Koch owns a coal company subsidiary with facilities in Green Bay, Manitowoc, Ashland and Sheboygan; six timber plants throughout the state; and a large network of pipelines in Wisconsin. While Koch controls much of the infrastructure in the state, they have laid off workers to boost profits. At a time when Koch Industries owners David and Charles Koch awarded themselves an extra $11 billion of income from the company, Koch slashed jobs at their Green Bay plant: Officials at Georgia-Pacific said the company is laying off 158 workers at its Day Street plant because out-of-date equipment at the facility is being replaced with newer, more-efficient equipment. The company said much of the new, papermaking equipment will be automated. [...] Malach tells FOX 11 that the layoffs are not because of a drop in demand. In fact, Malach said demand is high for the bath tissue and napkins manufactured at the plant. You really have to wonder how long it will take for Tea Party devotees to realize just how badly they are being used. Ah the Koch brothers...... Regardless of their personal views the vote to limit collective bargaining of wages & benefits for state employees of Wisconsin was passed in the state house. Challenged in court and upheld. Walker also survived a recall election (won by 53%) so the citizens of Wisconsin voted and decided for themselves and the Koch brothers had nothing to do with vote, courts decision / ruling or the people of Wisconsin voting in the recall election. The key difference is the Wisconsin decision only affects PUBLIC unions or those on the tax payers dollar, not private sector unions. Actually they are on the same bargaining tier as all federal employees. The Koch brothers have influence like a Soro's or any other political activist with deep pockets. www.suntimes.com/news/huntley/12967643-452/wisconsin-govs-collective-bargaining-reforms-have-been-resounding-success.html#.U9MQqGP4GnwWhen all of that went down in Wisconsin...didn't Obama say he wouldn't get involved in it because it was a state matter? Good thing the Democrats take our money and have our back huh?
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 26, 2014 9:49:46 GMT -5
Yes I can but it's too much so ...Google most profitable co. In the last decade,then google leader in customer satisfaction,then google auto tech leader,then google which automaker treats it's employees the best...I think you'll see then what I mean..At least Toyota is clean and they even have a dining room.
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Post by Grimace on Jul 26, 2014 13:18:11 GMT -5
Reading your RTW support posts here guys, I'm not seeing the long term logic. Rather than name calling, lets try this, If your argument produced your preferred end result of the UAW being completely unfunded by dues, do you think that "zero monetary contributions" from the UAW in lobbying would elevate or protect us in some way?
You think that by not paying dues you are punishing the UAW. But you haven't named any of the complaints that you're having with them other than a .02% dues increase. Who have you requested help from? What was their response? Are you documenting this? There are existing routes in the union by-laws to get your idea (or complaint) through to the right people. You feel that you're not being represented fairly, obviously you've done your homework and attempted to rectify the situation before posting on here for some support to wreck the entire UAW, right? Before you try to extinguish the only light in the room, try to have some idea of where you're heading.
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Post by whiskerfish1 on Jul 26, 2014 15:30:47 GMT -5
Reading your RTW support posts here guys, I'm not seeing the long term logic. Rather than name calling, lets try this, If your argument produced your preferred end result of the UAW being completely unfunded by dues, do you think that "zero monetary contributions" from the UAW in lobbying would elevate or protect us in some way? You think that by not paying dues you are punishing the UAW. But you haven't named any of the complaints that you're having with them other than a .02% dues increase. Who have you requested help from? What was their response? Are you documenting this? There are existing routes in the union by-laws to get your idea (or complaint) through to the right people. You feel that you're not being represented fairly, obviously you've done your homework and attempted to rectify the situation before posting on here for some support to wreck the entire UAW, right? Before you try to extinguish the only light in the room, try to have some idea of where you're heading. Awesome post Grimace !!!!! SBW B-Crew
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Post by cal50 on Jul 26, 2014 16:31:44 GMT -5
Reading your RTW support posts here guys, I'm not seeing the long term logic. Rather than name calling, lets try this, If your argument produced your preferred end result of the UAW being completely unfunded by dues, do you think that "zero monetary contributions" from the UAW in lobbying would elevate or protect us in some way? You think that by not paying dues you are punishing the UAW. But you haven't named any of the complaints that you're having with them other than a .02% dues increase. Who have you requested help from? What was their response? Are you documenting this? There are existing routes in the union by-laws to get your idea (or complaint) through to the right people. You feel that you're not being represented fairly, obviously you've done your homework and attempted to rectify the situation before posting on here for some support to wreck the entire UAW, right? Before you try to extinguish the only light in the room, try to have some idea of where you're heading. The RTW "logic" is the individual worker has a voice and forced membership and paying dues is THEIR choice. If anything it should make the UAW focus on keeping its membership happy instead of lobbyist's . Opting out is not a form of punishment but perceived value of the employee for dollars spent. Here is a concept, instead of trying to force membership thru legislation or sending millions of dollars to democrat politicians how about the UAW actually work with the company and spend those dues dollars on the members that paid it ? I am not 100% trusting in the company but the UAW has pulled a LOT more crap than the company and I resent paying for the tag team treatment. With the possibility of cutting off funds watch how quickly some people suddenly pay attention. The UAW is wrecking themselves, not the people paying the dues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 17:57:21 GMT -5
Reading your RTW support posts here guys, I'm not seeing the long term logic. Rather than name calling, lets try this, If your argument produced your preferred end result of the UAW being completely unfunded by dues, do you think that "zero monetary contributions" from the UAW in lobbying would elevate or protect us in some way? You think that by not paying dues you are punishing the UAW. But you haven't named any of the complaints that you're having with them other than a .02% dues increase. Who have you requested help from? What was their response? Are you documenting this? There are existing routes in the union by-laws to get your idea (or complaint) through to the right people. You feel that you're not being represented fairly, obviously you've done your homework and attempted to rectify the situation before posting on here for some support to wreck the entire UAW, right? Before you try to extinguish the only light in the room, try to have some idea of where you're heading. So you defend the IUAW pissing away our dues and not fighting for us?
The IUAW has done nothing for us in the past 10 years. We have given back, but yet they voted themselves raises. Why do they have over 12 people in the IUAW who make over $100K? They talk about The Big 3 making money, but seriously??? If you don't agree we are getting fucked then you are a bobble head.
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Post by Grimace on Jul 27, 2014 2:17:47 GMT -5
The dues increase could have been voted down by the delegates that were representing each local. The delegates were each elected and sent from each UAW local. This was NOT an arbitrary decision passed down from the IUAW. Be pissed at the delegates for not voting it down.
“Spending “funds” on the employees who paid it in.” Ok, what would you like to see them pay for in the future? To give you an idea, here are some future & past examples (recent) that 862 volunteer members have worked on, and your local 862 contributed funds to: -They just built their 100th handicap ramp for the wheelchair bound elderly and military that couldn’t afford their own. -Volunteer food drives for struggling families. -Substance abuse counseling for your co-workers that are trying to improve their lives. -Volunteer organizing of motorcycle charity runs for Juvenile diabetes. -Upcoming (free to you and your family) member events, Labor Day picnic at the zoo, Great lawn picnic. -They’ve been supporting Veterans and MIA soldiers for as long as I can remember. (I realize that most or some of these events might not be anything that you are interested in, so seriously what would you like to see? The committees are always looking for new ideas. You can also bring up new ideas to request “fund” support for. Offer something that you’re more interested in at the monthly meetings.) The committees also do a lot more behind the scenes work than you’d think. Volunteer some of your free time like they do, join one and make some changes.
Complaints about the income of the IUAW leaders making 6 figures, I get that, but: -They do not receive lump sum payments or cost of living increases. -They are on-call 24-7-365. -They are civilly liable (personally and financially) for failing to represent the members of the UAW (Think, lawyer on retainer costs).
Not doing anything to help the members: -They just financed, fought and won their cause to protect the health care benefits of retiree members in Ohio. -Just fought and won to protect whistle blowers vs companies.
Most of the info above is available on the internet. I’ve said before that our local has many times disagreed with the decisions of the IUAW. The fact is that as an operating local within the agreements of the constitution they are bound to act on the IUAW decisions.
(Just so you know, simply disagreeing with you on a topic, doesn't make me a democrat. I also do not support most of the causes that the Democratic Party endorses. Our current government belongs to those with the deepest pockets, (not me or you), I like the idea of having ANYBODY up there argue with the multimillionaire congressmen, about my future.) Somebody on here said they would have voted for Ross Perot, I probably would have too, Ron Paul even seemed like a better option than what the Republican party offered.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 14:28:53 GMT -5
The dues increase could have been voted down by the delegates that were representing each local. The delegates were each elected and sent from each UAW local. This was NOT an arbitrary decision passed down from the IUAW. Be pissed at the delegates for not voting it down.“Spending “funds” on the employees who paid it in.” Ok, what would you like to see them pay for in the future? To give you an idea, here are some future & past examples (recent) that 862 volunteer members have worked on, and your local 862 contributed funds to: -They just built their 100th handicap ramp for the wheelchair bound elderly and military that couldn’t afford their own. -Volunteer food drives for struggling families. -Substance abuse counseling for your co-workers that are trying to improve their lives. -Volunteer organizing of motorcycle charity runs for Juvenile diabetes. -Upcoming (free to you and your family) member events, Labor Day picnic at the zoo, Great lawn picnic. -They’ve been supporting Veterans and MIA soldiers for as long as I can remember. (I realize that most or some of these events might not be anything that you are interested in, so seriously what would you like to see? The committees are always looking for new ideas. You can also bring up new ideas to request “fund” support for. Offer something that you’re more interested in at the monthly meetings.) The committees also do a lot more behind the scenes work than you’d think. Volunteer some of your free time like they do, join one and make some changes. Complaints about the income of the IUAW leaders making 6 figures, I get that, but: -They do not receive lump sum payments or cost of living increases. -They are on-call 24-7-365. -They are civilly liable (personally and financially) for failing to represent the members of the UAW (Think, lawyer on retainer costs). Not doing anything to help the members: -They just financed, fought and won their cause to protect the health care benefits of retiree members in Ohio. -Just fought and won to protect whistle blowers vs companies. Most of the info above is available on the internet. I’ve said before that our local has many times disagreed with the decisions of the IUAW. The fact is that as an operating local within the agreements of the constitution they are bound to act on the IUAW decisions. (Just so you know, simply disagreeing with you on a topic, doesn't make me a democrat. I also do not support most of the causes that the Democratic Party endorses. Our current government belongs to those with the deepest pockets, (not me or you), I like the idea of having ANYBODY up there argue with the multimillionaire congressmen, about my future.) Somebody on here said they would have voted for Ross Perot, I probably would have too, Ron Paul even seemed like a better option than what the Republican party offered.) The things you listed have been ongoing for years. No problem with that. But to drain our strike fund, to keep throwing money at lavish hotels in posh destinations to party and have fun on our dime. And now going back to VW in Tennessee? Its obvious they don't want us there. They would be taking steps back to join the UAW. The UAW has done nothing for us in the past 10 years to make anyone want to join. More of our dues being pissed away. We pay to put these organizers up in hotels, airfare, car rental, food and pay them wages to get nothing done. I used to be UAW proud and stood tall with the union. Im sorry but I cant no more. This union is only a shell of its former self.
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