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Post by 30yearpace on Dec 15, 2009 2:41:54 GMT -5
Anyone else here about this?
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Post by bo862 on Dec 15, 2009 3:04:57 GMT -5
There is a post on the lap rumormill about it. Performance raises, 401k matching benefits and ETAP.
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Post by TonyV on Dec 15, 2009 3:06:34 GMT -5
Ford Motor Co. memo on reinstating raises
Here is the memo sent on Thursday to U.S. salaried employees by Mark Fields, president of the Americas.
Subject: 2010 Total Compensation Announcement
Today, as included in our annual compensation and benefits bulletin, I am pleased to announce we are reinstating two important benefits for eligible salaried employees and planning merit increases in 2010 in the U.S.
Effective Jan. 1, 2010, Ford is reinstating the 401(k) matching program at 60 percent of employee contribution up to the first 5 percent of base salary contributed – the same matching rate prior to our most recent program suspension.
Effective March 1, 2010, Salaried Tuition Assistance Plan (STAP) will be reinstated with revised program guidelines. This assistance will be provided to employees for classes beginning on or after March 1.
Funding for 2010 merit increases has been approved for salaried employees in the U.S. and will be planned for an April 1, 2010, effective date. As in past years, employees will be notified about the amount of their individual merit increase prior to their payment.
We understand from your feedback that these compensation and benefits programs are valuable to you and your families, and we are delivering on our promise to improve the competitiveness of our total compensation as business conditions allow.
Further details about these and other compensation and benefits-related changes can be found by accessing the 2010 Salaried Total Compensation Announcement, now available on HR ONLINE. I encourage you to review the available information. Our Employee Benefits Office will provide additional information during the first quarter of next year.
While we all should be proud of the progress on our transformation plan that made possible the reinstatement of these programs, we still need to keep delivering on our plans for a profitable and sustainable business. In this challenging business environment, it is more important than ever that we remain focused every day on delivering all the key pillars of our One Ford Plan:
• Aggressively restructure to operate profitably at the current demand and changing model mix
• Accelerate development of new products our customers want and value
• Finance our plan and improve the balance sheet
• Work together effectively as one team, leveraging our global assets
Thank you for all of your tremendous efforts. Clearly, our One Ford transformation is not complete, but our plan is working. By continuing to work together and staying focused, we can truly deliver a future that includes profitable growth for all.
- Mark
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Post by bo862 on Dec 15, 2009 4:07:00 GMT -5
This has to give you a special feeling knowing that Fords plan of One Ford Transformation of your pay and benefits to salaried isn't complete.
Kind of hard to put into words...
without getting kicked off the forums.
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Post by kessinger on Dec 15, 2009 13:06:12 GMT -5
To borrow from the coach
"They are who we thought they were" ........................ Scumbags.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Dec 15, 2009 13:15:15 GMT -5
If our leaders do not ask for raises, bonuses, and all the other shit we gave up including holidays this next contract...there will be no chance of passing it.
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Post by ktpking on Dec 15, 2009 13:49:12 GMT -5
I think it's great!! They played the UAW like a fiddle. We the membership followed along and voted for it. I can only say SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!! We will never get back what we gave up. You never ever ever break a contract, modify a contract, or open a contract. This is what happens. Classic managment move. American people are too scared anymore they are scared of their own shadow. This follows suit to the union vote this in or we will lose our jobs. Well look at what happened last time we voted it down and we are working overime. Don't be mad at them be mad at the membership for voting to give up all the pay and benifits we have. I sure would liked to have that Christmas bonus. Well now management is takeing that money out of YOUR mouth and giving it to them.
Scott, the contract will pass just like the other two. We will get nothing, just a if you want to work at FORD you will pass this contract.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I'm glad we could give up lot's of our money so they will have a nice nest egg when they retire. I know mine won't be nearly as big eventhough I'm putting the trucks together.
YOU FELL FOR IT!YOU FELL FOR IT!YOU FELL FOR IT!YOU FELL FOR IT!YOU FELL FOR IT!YOU FELL FOR IT!YOU FELL FOR IT!YOU FELL FOR IT!YOU FELL FOR IT!YOU FELL FOR IT!YOU FELL FOR IT!
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Post by ktpking on Dec 15, 2009 13:50:57 GMT -5
Oh yeah, am I wrong or did International get a rasie also a while back. I believe I'm right. See a pattern here. Wake up people. How blind can you be.
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Post by ackspac on Dec 15, 2009 15:38:59 GMT -5
Wow! And all of us on ILO cutting back and taking $10 an hour jobs. Yea, that equals out.
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Post by marcus on Dec 15, 2009 18:02:15 GMT -5
Thats why i say we need to vote everyone of our leaders out that said we should vote YES!!!
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Dec 16, 2009 0:12:49 GMT -5
ktpking, you are right...the I-UAW somehow fall under a different contract than ALL OF US which are represented by them. They kept their holidays and received raises, etc...
Fuck it all...we voted down the last concessions...the next contract will not pass unless there's a hefty bonus, 3% annual raise, COLA return, Christmas bonus...not so worried about lost holidays, but the rest better come back or it will not pass.
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Post by ktpelec on Dec 16, 2009 13:23:31 GMT -5
The salary workforce has approximatly 23000 workers, the majority of these people are clerical workers such as data entry ect, not "Management".
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Post by ackspac on Dec 16, 2009 16:07:52 GMT -5
The salary workforce has approximatly 23000 workers, the majority of these people are clerical workers such as data entry ect, not "Management". And this is supposed to make us feel better, how? |
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Post by trinitus on Dec 16, 2009 21:59:29 GMT -5
The salary workforce has approximatly 23000 workers, the majority of these people are clerical workers such as data entry ect, not "Management". And this is supposed to make us feel better, how? That is all fine and dandy ktpelec but why should we still feel the pain if Ford is doing better than expected. I chose to work here at Ford and I chose to work on the assembly line. Just as those people chose to work at Ford and not on the assembly line. Ford says they are at a disadvantage due to what GM and Chrysler got but Ford chose not to take the bailout loan. Mainly because Allan Mulally was fine where he was at. I truly believe what Ford is wanting to do is pad the pockets of upper management more than those in the clerical field. That is OK though you keep defending those who are getting the raises and matching 401ks while we are still without a raise going on year 7 or 8 now. As far as I am concerned you cannot say anything that will make me feel better because of what is happening in Michigan. We still have over 200 local 862 members who are on ILO while these Clerical people get more money and benefits. ackspac I agree with what you said. |
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Post by ktpregular on Dec 17, 2009 0:56:35 GMT -5
Our International should be OUTRAGED by this! I wish they would call a Wildcat strike for one day and let these bastards know that we are tired of this crap! Us at KTP, not including overtime, are loosing over $16,000 in pay through the end of this contract. That said, I don't mind helping the Company out with some cuts, but it should have been written in these negotiations that we would get them back upon the recovery of the economy. These A holes have used us! Not me of course, I always voted NO!
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Post by ktpking on Dec 17, 2009 3:04:50 GMT -5
Our International should be OUTRAGED by this! I wish they would call a Wildcat strike for one day and let these bastards know that we are tired of this crap! Us at KTP, not including overtime, are loosing over $16,000 in pay through the end of this contract. That said, I don't mind helping the Company out with some cuts, but it should have been written in these negotiations that we would get them back upon the recovery of the economy. These A holes have used us! Not me of course, I always voted NO! Why would International be outraged? They got their raise. They got their trips and expenses paid for by you the line worker to sell the lies and deceit. Life is good when you are a good ole boy. Appointing your good ole family and friends. The International Union is a business now controlling VEBA. They have to screw us so the VEBA account will grow (FORD STOCK). The sooner you guys figure this out the better. International will never call a strike they cannot do anything to downgrade the VEBA account. Even if it means bending every UAW dues paying member over and not giving them a kiss after-wards. |
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Post by ktpking on Dec 17, 2009 3:09:38 GMT -5
Guys, like I said before you can't blame management. You have to blame the union and the membership for voting this in. Do I like it hell no. Does management ever tell the truth hell no. If you did not believe it before it should be a wake up call for you now.
Keep the faith and VOTE YES again SUCKERS!!!!!!
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Post by rudedawg on Dec 17, 2009 3:17:24 GMT -5
Great post Trinitus. Now Ford is showing their hand or should I say underhand. They have pretty much showed how they feel about us after we have helped bring them back with good quality vehicles. They can't say they done this without our blood, sweat and fears. If I'm back to work by next contract they will have to show me a lot of LOVE to get a yes vote out of me. I too have always voted no and old habits are hard to break.
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Post by ktpelec on Dec 17, 2009 7:40:15 GMT -5
I was not defending anyone, just pointing out that the title of this post was not entirely accurate. Ford slashed 20% of the salary workforce, leaving the rest to do more work, similar to what happened in the assembly plants.
I feel the concessions we made should have had some stipulation to be returned to us imediatly when Ford returned to "profitability", not making us wait until the next contract.
As a Ford stockholder I am glad that this company has been successful in its business strategy. I can only hope that in the long term it pays off.
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Post by fordemployee55 on Dec 17, 2009 13:08:32 GMT -5
It's funny because you KNOW our UAW Reps read all of this and have not had one respond to any of this. Hey Union leaders do something for us for a change. Stand up for the ones that PAY YOUR SALARY! This makes me sick. I'm tired of Ford to keep taking and taking from the ones that bust their chops for the company and everyone else reaks the benefits. Luckily I'm one that's still able to work, but I feel sorry for the ones that are on ILO because I'm sure their subpay is running out and I know a few that are struggling to pay their bills now, because of the fact being on ILO. If Ford is doing ok now to where they can give back things to their salaried employees why don't they give back to their blue collar workers. Why hasn't our UNION stepped in and said HOLD ON A SECOND If you can do this for Salary then do this for blue collar and the ILO's. STEP UP UNION FOR YOUR BOTHERS AND SISTERS!
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Post by kessinger on Dec 17, 2009 14:54:01 GMT -5
It's funny because you KNOW our UAW Reps read all of this and have not had one respond to any of this. Hey Union leaders do something for us for a change. Stand up for the ones that PAY YOUR SALARY! This makes me sick. I'm tired of Ford to keep taking and taking from the ones that bust their chops for the company and everyone else reaks the benefits. Luckily I'm one that's still able to work, but I feel sorry for the ones that are on ILO because I'm sure their subpay is running out and I know a few that are struggling to pay their bills now, because of the fact being on ILO. If Ford is doing ok now to where they can give back things to their salaried employees why don't they give back to their blue collar workers. Why hasn't our UNION stepped in and said HOLD ON A SECOND If you can do this for Salary then do this for blue collar and the ILO's. STEP UP UNION FOR YOUR BOTHERS AND SISTERS! 55. I told everyone I was voting them down and encouraged others to vote down the concessions. You say none of us have had anything to say? I was the third person to post on this thread. Your apology is accepted. Did you EVER think the company worried about us before themselves? I didn't. Hell we live in America if we have learned anything in our country it's that companys DO NOT care about their workers. I am amazed that anyone is suprised by this in the age of ENRON and AIG. So I will say it again "They are who we thought they were".......scumbags. |
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Post by marcus on Dec 17, 2009 19:04:03 GMT -5
I used to be so proud to say i worked for Ford but its getting so hard to even like them anymore.I used to think of it as a Family thing but something has changed.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Dec 17, 2009 19:49:55 GMT -5
Good point Marcus...pride has probably taken the biggest hit in the last few years besides our pocket book. No longer is it something to brag about...been ten yrs since its been worth bragging about.
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Post by ktpking on Dec 18, 2009 3:46:17 GMT -5
Stand up for the ones that PAY YOUR SALARY!
I may be wrong, correct me if I am. I heard this second hand.
Ford pays local leadership.......
Union dues pays International leadership.....
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Post by kessinger on Dec 18, 2009 9:23:16 GMT -5
Stand up for the ones that PAY YOUR SALARY!I may be wrong, correct me if I am. I heard this second hand. Ford pays local leadership....... Union dues pays International leadership..... That is correct. Ford only pays local leadership though becase they are contracutaly obligated to. So it is still those that vote on the contract that we answer to. |
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Post by jgt150ktp on Dec 18, 2009 17:03:13 GMT -5
It makes no difference who pays whom....Ford is gonna do what they want and the Union is gonna look out for the leadership....... bottom line is our leaders are screwed come next election. I so wish we could vote in international elections as well because all those people would be screwed.
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Post by 86gn on Dec 19, 2009 5:30:30 GMT -5
It's funny because you KNOW our UAW Reps read all of this and have not had one respond to any of this. Hey Union leaders do something for us for a change. Stand up for the ones that PAY YOUR SALARY! This makes me sick. I'm tired of Ford to keep taking and taking from the ones that bust their chops for the company and everyone else reaks the benefits. Luckily I'm one that's still able to work, but I feel sorry for the ones that are on ILO because I'm sure their subpay is running out and I know a few that are struggling to pay their bills now, because of the fact being on ILO. If Ford is doing ok now to where they can give back things to their salaried employees why don't they give back to their blue collar workers. Why hasn't our UNION stepped in and said HOLD ON A SECOND If you can do this for Salary then do this for blue collar and the ILO's. STEP UP UNION FOR YOUR BOTHERS AND SISTERS! 55. I told everyone I was voting them down and encouraged others to vote down the concessions. You say none of us have had anything to say? I was the third person to post on this thread. Your apology is accepted. Did you EVER think the company worried about us before themselves? I didn't. Hell we live in America if we have learned anything in our country it's that companys DO NOT care about their workers. I am amazed that anyone is suprised by this in the age of ENRON and AIG. So I will say it again "They are who we thought they were".......scumbags. The sad part about all this is , I would always think to see the company TRYING to get as much as they can from us its no big shocker. What they lied to us, does that suprise anyone either? The thing that makes me sick the more i think about it is INTERNATIONAL. 1. They did not back the local when lap was lied to on the ilo people 2. They are more then happy to ask us to give away our $$ and such (sure we voted it in, but no one knew that they got to keep everything they had. They really want to show some support how about they money they are stealing from us ( I think most of them aint worth a nickle) should be given up to go to the workers on ILO. 3. They sit around getting paid to figure out how to take more from us and give back to the company, I almost thing the forget they work for us and are not our bosses. I dont think we should be looking over our shoulder for management to stab us in the back cause our union leaders are doing it for them..Okk done with my half asleep 6a.m rant |
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Post by redsfan on Dec 19, 2009 20:34:55 GMT -5
KtpKing, why don`t u grow a set and run for office next time. Sounds like you have all the answers.
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Post by redsfan on Dec 19, 2009 20:37:18 GMT -5
Guys like Ktpking kill me, people like u always wanting to blame the union. Do u think Ford gives you the money and benefits you make because they like you? For real dude!!!!!!
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Post by ktpking on Dec 19, 2009 23:12:29 GMT -5
Guys like Ktpking kill me, people like u always wanting to blame the union. Do u think Ford gives you the money and benefits you make because they like you? For real dude!!!!!! Well, well,well looks like we have a long time listener and a first time caller. Welcome Redsfan I'm glad I inspired you to make your first post about me. Thanks for the compliment. I have to wonder why a guy like yourself would sign yourself up on a fourm to bash me. I must be doing something right, like telling the truth. I have to wonder why you would say those mean nasty things about me. Are you elected or appointed not doing your job. I only bash the ones and never name names that do not do their job they were elected to do or appointed to a job because they are family or friends of the MAN. I bet you must have fallen for the ole management trick and International selling of the modifications. I bet you voted YES. I don't really care it's in the past and we have to move on and suck it up. As far as running for election for a union job. I honestly can't do it. Why? I just don't have the drive and can't represent people who abuse the system. I have morals and when people are doing things they know they should not do at work and get caught you have to represent them. Plus I also have a heart and if they get fired I would take that home and worry about their family. At my age I don't need that. I am pro union we need a union at Ford. I am anti lazy I have no respect for people who are. Do I know it all? Nope, just 99%. The other 1% I have forgotten. If my opinons bother you, well it's America. Love it or leave baby. Attachments:
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