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Post by elmer on Jan 28, 2010 16:36:44 GMT -5
When LAP shutdown for retool all of you will be classified as ILO, You could be surveyed for Chicago if you turn it down you will lose your pay and benefits. If you have more seniority then a worker at KTP you could roll him, then he would have to go.
Now as far as them surveying you to go you we wont know until the last minute it depends on how many people volunteer to go.
But you will be classified as ILO and anyone who says different is lying to you.
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Post by justaworker on Jan 28, 2010 17:28:49 GMT -5
When LAP shutdown for retool all of you will be classified as ILO, You could be surveyed for Chicago if you turn it down you will lose your pay and benefits. If you have more seniority then a worker at KTP you could roll him, then he would have to go. Now as far as them surveying you to go you we wont know until the last minute it depends on how many people volunteer to go. But you will be classified as ILO and anyone who says different is lying to you. thats not a heads up. thats negative scare talk from a poster thats always been that way. according to you, LAP was closed 2 years ago. |
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Post by jobs1stb4polarbear on Jan 28, 2010 17:44:11 GMT -5
The fact, that the company CAN do "it".... should at least concern you!
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Post by elmer on Jan 28, 2010 20:12:02 GMT -5
justaworker If I remember correctly when the 1st round of givebacks where announced you where in favor of them, and your post shows how wrong you where.
I'm not trying to scare anyone the facts are that when LAP shutdown for retool those workers will be classified as ILO and thats a FACT. Remember how everyone was told that they would be classified as TLO? Not anymore ,and I believe telling people up front is the best way to inform LAP workers what's going to happen.
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Post by lap65 on Jan 28, 2010 22:50:00 GMT -5
Steve Stone said a while that they were trying to WORK ON us being classified as TLO when we go down for re-tool. I forgot about this til you brought it up. That's been a while back, & haven't heard anything since. That's not a good sign.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Jan 29, 2010 0:12:24 GMT -5
I have to agree with Elmer's scare tactics...there's no reason to think they won't be classified at ILO. Ford is not in the business of offering TLO anymore.
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Post by TonyV on Jan 29, 2010 1:30:02 GMT -5
One problem I have with this theory:
LAP does not shut down for retool until November. The 400 or so on ILO nationwide would have already been surveyed so Ford can bring in two-tier workers. Ford will fill the extra positions with two-tier workers faster than I can drive through McDonald's.
I am not saying that those laid off this fall will be on ILO or TLO. I am just questioning if they will be asked to move anywhere. Those jobs in Chicago will be filled quickly and neatly..........
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Post by lap65 on Jan 29, 2010 2:14:09 GMT -5
Steve, Herb, anyone have the answer. ILO or TLO. If you know now, so should we. If ILO, yes we will be angry, but we will be a lot more angry if we are not told until the last minute.
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Post by lap65 on Jan 29, 2010 14:32:13 GMT -5
Steve Stone responded to a question from an email I sent him, he said currently active LAP workers will be TLO during re-tool.
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Post by elmer on Jan 29, 2010 16:54:47 GMT -5
Steve Stone responded to a question from an email I sent him, he said currently active LAP workers will be TLO during re-tool. Wow thats unbelievable he would say that. |
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Post by lap65 on Jan 29, 2010 17:02:24 GMT -5
Employees on active status at the time of the tear out and retooling shutdown will be classified as a TLO.
Steven M Stone
UAW Building Chairperson
Local 862/LAP
502-364-3657 (Office)
502-969-9136 (Hall)
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:06 AM
To: 'sstone'
Subject: RE: Transfer of Operations to Chicago
Steve, a lot of people are saying that we will be on ILO instead of TLO during re-tool. What's the truth? Thanks.
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Post by justaworker on Jan 29, 2010 17:16:45 GMT -5
Employees on active status at the time of the tear out and retooling shutdown will be classified as a TLO. Steven M Stone UAW Building Chairperson Local 862/LAP 502-364-3657 (Office) 502-969-9136 (Hall) -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:06 AM To: 'sstone' Subject: RE: Transfer of Operations to Chicago Steve, a lot of people are saying that we will be on ILO instead of TLO during re-tool. What's the truth? Thanks. thats great to hear for you all. but that better be in writing that they can actually enforce. |
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Post by lap65 on Jan 29, 2010 23:41:52 GMT -5
Agree 100%
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