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Post by wplap on Feb 26, 2011 12:52:08 GMT -5
I don't have a lot to add to this, but I would simply say: Look at where we started and look at where we are now. I don't think capitalism can survive, in it's essence, it is a 'bubble' itself, which in time will burst.
The policies we have in place are not exactly congenial to corporations to start up in this country as well. So why not go overseas or to Mexico if it helps bolster your new company? It's not just lower wages in other countries, it's also the taxation in this country.
I'm getting older now, and with that, more fiscally conservative. We should all have the liberty to manifest destiny, but do we currently live in a construct which can provide that? There are too many questions on either side of the story: Liberal or Conservative. I think that regardless of Right to Work states, those at such plants will choose to be part of a Union because it's a safety net...a security blanket. But to strip away Collective Bargaining disempowers a union to provide much of anything in the long run. The governor of Wisconsin is a snake, but he is a politician...
The government has just become too large for its own good; we have empowered it to do so.
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Feb 26, 2011 23:21:11 GMT -5
I would argue that Germany, a competitor, has higher tax rates.
I would also argue that Germany has a MUCH more narrow gap in rich/poor.
I would argue that the influence of the rich in German politics isn't as great as it is here.
I would argue that Germany's unemployment situation is much, much, much better than ours.
You cannot argue that we shouldn't tax the rich at a higher rate when taxes on the rich and corporations have been FALLING AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME that the economic status of the middle class has been to suffer.....
A huge upper class tax break PRECEDED the worst employment situation we've seen since the great depression. So how does trickle down tax policy actually help? When the data suggests otherwise?
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Post by ktpelec on Feb 27, 2011 10:16:22 GMT -5
There have been a few people that claim to have started the "Tea Party" movement. The Koch family with thier huge corporate empire, started in the oil industry, have used thier vast wealth to push this so-called "patriotic" movement beyond any others. Thier influence in many corporate industries and the Republican Party has but one goal, wealth, at the expense of the American working middle class. The "Tea Party", corporate wolves in sheeps clothing.
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