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Post by thintwowin on Jul 29, 2011 13:09:17 GMT -5
So when all the chaos and bankrupts where happening. Gmac lost 30 billion in the housing game , it was going to quickly take gm down with it. So gm sold there financial arm. Ford thought they may have to do the same( even thou they didn't do mortgages). With the uncertainty if the financial crisis at that time it was possible they where going to have to sell Ford Motor Credit. So they put in the one of the concession to eliminate Ford Credit from profit sharing. I didn't see this in there, until after the vote ( I voted no anyways). Like how they put things in without making a big deal out of it. So to get to the point . King is making a big deal now about bigger profit sharing he is gonna get us. All he is gonna do is get the unsold Ford Motor Credit put back in the formula. It will be no different than before the concession modification . He will act like he got us something huge and make it a big deal now. I will be grateful we are getting a concession back.(don't get me wrong) But it's another way of how the IUAW and Ford think we are idiots . Sure profit sharing will be bigger , it's not because of a new formula negotiated , it's because they are making a profit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2011 20:12:30 GMT -5
Excellent post.
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Post by kbrundag on Jul 29, 2011 21:57:33 GMT -5
I'm not feeling it. The spelling and grammatical errors leave me with confusion. I can somewhat understand the post, but yes, we are all idiots when an over educated salary employee reads a post such as this.
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Post by Calvin@KTP on Jul 30, 2011 7:26:28 GMT -5
I will be voting No unless the profit sharing is returned to the way it was before concessions.
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Post by elmer on Jul 30, 2011 7:57:25 GMT -5
I will be voting No unless the profit sharing is returned to the way it was before concessions. Now thats holding their feet to the fire Cal, lets hope for a little more.
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Post by itsnotmyjob on Jul 30, 2011 12:16:24 GMT -5
LAP employees will be screwed from profit sharing oh yeah hes thinking of his members.....yeah right.....his maybe..... i will vote no most of us wont get crap!!!!!!
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Post by wplap on Jul 30, 2011 12:35:40 GMT -5
I'm not feeling it. The spelling and grammatical errors leave me with confusion. I can somewhat understand the post, but yes, we are all idiots when an over educated salary employee reads a post such as this. Speaking of shit-for-grammar! *CORRECTIONS* I'm not feeling it: The spelling and grammatical errors leave me with confusion. I can somewhat understand the post, but yes, we are all idiots when(?)(I think you meant "to" in lieu of "when") an over-educated, salary employee reads a post such as this.
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Post by kbrundag on Jul 30, 2011 13:41:08 GMT -5
wplap... Yes you are right, "to" would have worked, only if "who" had been added later... we are all idiots "to" an over-educated, salary employee "who" reads a post such as this. However, "when" does work with the original flow of the post... I do congratulate you on adding my missed hyphen in "over-educated."
If you could please add your corrections to the original post of this thread, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by dave7293 on Jul 30, 2011 14:13:45 GMT -5
My God ...can you two shut up....please!!! (thintwowin & kbrundag) all you need to know how to spell is "NO".
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Post by kbrundag on Jul 30, 2011 14:54:55 GMT -5
Once... Attachments:
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Post by kbrundag on Jul 30, 2011 14:55:38 GMT -5
Twice... Attachments:
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Post by kbrundag on Jul 30, 2011 14:59:03 GMT -5
Thrice... Do you think "They" will get the message? It really tickles me to think about how shocked and dumbfounded our beloved UAW leadership will be after the vote... Attachments:
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Post by trinitus on Jul 30, 2011 16:18:24 GMT -5
Three strikes, King is out.
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Post by Calvin@KTP on Jul 31, 2011 4:41:06 GMT -5
I will be voting No unless the profit sharing is returned to the way it was before concessions. Now thats holding their feet to the fire Cal, lets hope for a little more. I didn't mean that was the only concession I wanted back. I don't care what's in the contract...if our profit sharing is not returned to the way it was before concessions it will be a no vote from me.
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Post by marcus on Aug 2, 2011 14:22:32 GMT -5
Yes Lap is not going to get profit sharing next year.But the people there had a chance to go to ktp.Just about everyone at LAP was saying Im staying here and getting paid to stay home.
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Post by zj on Aug 2, 2011 16:49:29 GMT -5
yes , i had the chance to go to ktp and i said hell no , just as i will say hell no to the contract , unless we get something other than bs promises of bonuses and bigger profit sharing , show me the cash . Because every time we go to get a bonus they will say oh we had to do this one time write off, and u don't get shit , but sorry better luck next year.
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Post by jagr2 on Aug 2, 2011 17:20:12 GMT -5
Wage Increases for U.S. Workers Not Keeping Up With Inflation By David Schepp, Posted Aug 1st 2011 @ 4:15PM Despite the weak economic recovery, workers are likely to see a pay raise next year -- though a modest one -- a new survey of employers suggests. Employees can expect, on average, base pay to rise 3 percent next year, according to the 2011/2012 U.S. Compensation Planning Survey, released this week by Mercer, a human-resource consultancy. That modest rise is up slightly from gains of 2.9 percent this year, and 2.7 percent in 2010. Employees at the top of their game, however, can expect to do better, with an average expected increase of 4.4 percent. In more concrete terms, a worker making the current average weekly wage of $788.56 would see a raise of about $24 a week, raising annual earnings to $42,335 from $41,005, based on June data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the most recent available. According to the Mercer survey, nearly all employers -- 97 percent -- plan to increase base pay next year. Further, half of employers polled said they plan to award higher increases next year than in 2011 because of anticipated labor shortages and greater competition among employers for skilled workers. "Employers realize that in order to hang onto their best employees, they're going to have to reward them," Catherine Hartmann, a principal with Mercer's Rewards consulting business, says in a statement accompanying release of the survey's results. "[And] base pay is still the most important element of the employment deal." Mercer's survey includes responses from more than 1,200 medium and large employers across the country that employ some 12 million people. The anticipated 3 percent rise in wages isn't sufficient to keep up with the pace of inflation, notes Ibraiz Tarique, professor of human resources management at Pace University's Lubin School of Business in Manhattan. In the 12 months ending June, consumer prices rose a non-seasonally adjusted 3.6 percent, the BLS reported earlier this month. Overall, Tarique expects that few employers will grant "good" raises. "I don't think companies can afford to increase base pay," he says. Moreover, workers will have to work harder to earn more. Tarique expects companies to broaden "pay-for-performance" programs that tie wage increases to output. He also expects that in lieu of raises employers will offer additional forms of non-monetary compensation, such as tools to help workers balance their work and personal lives. The wage increases calculated by Mercer may appear modest, but they are much more optimistic than similar data compiled by PayScale.com. PayScale, which examines employee compensation at private employers of all sizes, reported earlier this month that worker compensation essentially has been flat for the past two years. Current data from the three months ending in June show that trend continuing, meaning wages aren't much higher today than they were during the first quarter of 2008. Wage growth is weakest at smaller companies (those with fewer than 500 employees), which in part explains the discrepancy between the two companies' research, says Al Lee, director of quantitative analysis at PayScale. When it comes to granting raises, Lee says, "the largest companies have on average been better than both the midsize and the small, overall." jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/08/01/wage-increases-for-u-s-workers-not-keeping-up-with-inflation/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl18|sec3_lnk3|82903
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Post by Jr on Aug 2, 2011 17:24:31 GMT -5
Yes Lap is not going to get profit sharing next year.But the people there had a chance to go to ktp.Just about everyone at LAP was saying Im staying here and getting paid to stay home. The Other option was to Go to KTP and COMPLAIN all the time How bad it was over there..... Lol .... I done knew that one and Told YOU it was. LOL LOL ;D
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Aug 2, 2011 17:44:35 GMT -5
I went, will be staying, and cashing my profit sharing check next year...only a little over 11 more years...then I will close my eyes when I drive by either plant.
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Post by ktpelec on Aug 2, 2011 19:06:12 GMT -5
I hear ya Scott, I'm going the other way though! Closer to home, less drive to LAP, also newer equip. 5-8 years, hopefully, then bye KY.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Aug 2, 2011 20:25:17 GMT -5
Didn't know you were transferring...best of luck in Happy Land...you will like it.
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Post by TonyV on Aug 2, 2011 22:44:25 GMT -5
Best of luck brother! You'll be missed in the old stacker I'm sure. Hopefully you'll enjoy the other plant while you are there.
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