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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 17, 2011 17:35:29 GMT -5
We may not get the results that we wanted(the n o voters)but I will definitly remember who not to vote for the next time we have a building chair man bargining com. All the other bullshit positions I hope all you all will too.
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Post by ktpgal89 on Oct 17, 2011 18:55:56 GMT -5
That is what I have been saying since this "contract" came out...hopefully just about everyone will be replaced. Too bad we can't get Settles out after that fit he threw on Facebook....how UNPROESSIONAL!!! And to think he was one of the main bargaining people. No wonder things came out like they did.
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Post by mazroth on Oct 17, 2011 18:58:40 GMT -5
If and win I get to retire, and others, and some of them complain about current workers voting our rights and benefits away, how it isnt fair etc, I will say, remember when you voted for it in 2011? It isnt right is it?
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Post by ktpgal89 on Oct 17, 2011 19:02:16 GMT -5
If and win I get to retire, and others, and some of them complain about current workers voting our rights and benefits away, how it isnt fair etc, I will say, remember when you voted for it in 2011? It isnt right is it? No it's not!!
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Oct 18, 2011 4:15:17 GMT -5
There's only one way to change this path...replace every delegate.
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Post by informer on Oct 18, 2011 7:12:18 GMT -5
Also remember, we do have the right to demand proper working equipment, we do have the right to a safe working environment, we do not have to hurt ourselves by running to do our jobs. The "dayshift does it" crap does not hold water in court, No two people think alike, nor are they alike in build" you are not a machine! DO NOT DO FORD ANY FAVORS! We will have the power to vote out the traitors in the near future. We have the choice not to spend our hard earned money on Ford products. Start now to lessen Ford's hold over you, don't use Ford Credit, Legal Services, etc., they learn too much about you that way! We also have the choice to not spend our money elsewhere on products that support the uber wealthy. We also have the right to form groups outside the UAW to fight the greed! Stand together and fight the fight! They are winning now but now is the time to begin the turn around! The workers are the Union!
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Post by darklady28 on Oct 18, 2011 7:43:56 GMT -5
All good posts here!I agree.Time to change.I also dont believe in the teamwork concept.Had a lesson in that the other night.Gonna look out for those who stand with me and forget those that dont.I will be voting out those that bargained this contract and let them be back on the line where they belong!!!
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Post by Jr on Oct 18, 2011 8:04:17 GMT -5
There's only one way to change this path...replace every delegate. I think Me and you Need to go up there. We need to get other people than Yes people to go.
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Post by marcus on Oct 18, 2011 8:20:23 GMT -5
We should have been in a position to bargain for some of our things back.We didnt get them back this time and we never will now.You can talk about the economy all you want but Ford is still making record money.They scared people into voting yes, the IUAW and local leaders and Ford. Everyone got theres CEOs,white collar,new hires,IUAW,everyone but the ones who build the cars and trucks.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 18, 2011 8:33:06 GMT -5
You got that right Marcus,thats what Im saying you would think THEY (our big powerful UAW)Could of got us one thing back!!!!!Hell THEY could of gave us our xmas bonus back and alot of people would of been happy.We need to replace these people starting with OUR own local.
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Post by unchained on Oct 18, 2011 10:05:47 GMT -5
Informer, It's not very bright to encourage not buying Ford products when you work for them. The only way your gonna be released of Ford's "hold" on you is to quit. Being bitter at your employer like that can lead to quality issues and that will hurt us and retirees more than no raises or Christmas bonus.
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Post by whiner862 on Oct 20, 2011 17:39:51 GMT -5
Well all of you have the right to run for the Sub-Council coming up in Febuary, and if you get in then you can voice all you want in your Committees and to the men you would like to replace.. Thats all you have to do..
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