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Post by ScottR@KTP on Oct 28, 2011 12:48:55 GMT -5
First broken promise...
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Post by reedycreekbuc on Oct 28, 2011 12:58:43 GMT -5
I had a feeling it would take longer, especially with the option to put it in TESPHE. It just takes longer to get all the paperwork done.
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Post by Ktp1989 on Oct 29, 2011 7:34:22 GMT -5
contract reopening #1
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Oct 29, 2011 8:44:10 GMT -5
Not hard to understand.
The company gets to keep about $150-160 MILLION dollars earning interest for another month or so.
We've got a contract that stipulates that that money is to be distributed IN NO-FUCKING-VEMBER, but its not going to be.
And our international says that they're all for it........
God, my pension gets less secure by the minute.......
With the way the IUAW handled the now forgotten EofS grievance, is it any wonder......
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Post by reedycreekbuc on Oct 29, 2011 8:56:33 GMT -5
They could have kept your money until March. Quit Whining!!!!
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Oct 29, 2011 9:54:04 GMT -5
WOW, They could have kept the money FOREVER. Never paid me a cent of it.
BUT THE CONTRACT SAYS NOVEMBER.
That's what it says. That's what we voted on.
To complain about an arbitrary "change" in the contract isn't whining.
It just shows that the contract, AGAIN, is virtually meaningless when the company wants to change something.
Tell ya what, if the company and the IUAW "decide" to just not give the inflation protection pay in June, and you complain, would you be "whining"...........?
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Post by reedycreekbuc on Oct 29, 2011 10:34:43 GMT -5
First, to complain about the company giving us the opportunity to protect our profit sharing from 42% taxes is whining. It takes time to prepare the paperwork, print it, distribute it to us, read it, and decide what to do. All that HAS to be done!
Second, the company can change anything they want. It is THEIR company. We just get the privilege of working there. We have a process to fight against that. If that doesn't work, then oh well. I will survive without it.
Finally, QUIT WHINING OVER EVERY LITTLE THING! IT WILL KILL YOU!
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Post by reedycreekbuc on Oct 29, 2011 10:41:30 GMT -5
And also, the Contract highlights only say the payment will be made in 2011. If you have the contract page that states it will be paid in November. I would like to see it. Thanks!
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Post by mustcmedrink on Oct 29, 2011 12:23:57 GMT -5
And also, the Contract highlights only say the payment will be made in 2011. If you have the contract page that states it will be paid in November. I would like to see it. Thanks! www.scribd.com/doc/67470226/UAW-Ford-Contract-Summarypage 6 "Nov. 2011Proft Share (frst 2Qs 2011)Average 3752"
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Post by reedycreekbuc on Oct 29, 2011 13:31:05 GMT -5
That is the highlights page. Where is it in the official contract?
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Post by JoePieper on Oct 29, 2011 14:26:17 GMT -5
Page 178C states that it will be paid "as soon as possible after ratification." The highlights did say November but the contract itself did not.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 29, 2011 15:28:56 GMT -5
Hey reedycreek you should try to get in the IUAW !!!Thats why we are fucked up now because our union doesnt make the CO.keep good on their promises .If the contract says November then by god it should be november.Quit crying about lil things you say take a bunch of lil things and you end up with one big fuckin problem!!!!!We just got our eyes fucked out so I personally am gonna raise ten kinds of hell every fuckin day I go in that shit hole.
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Post by trinitus on Oct 29, 2011 22:36:29 GMT -5
Don'tcink they could have at least cared a little and planned on the contract passing. That way they could have had all the information that was going to be needed ready to mail so we could have gotten th P.S. check in November like they promised in the Highlight's. Oh I forgot, that means that would have shown us they had some common sense and could actually think.
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Post by reedycreekbuc on Oct 30, 2011 0:19:03 GMT -5
Thank you JoePieper! They print the dates on the official contract for a reason. You should never even read the highlights. Read the actual contract. That is what was agreed upon. So quit whining, the only party to say it was to be paid in November was the UAW, the people writing the check never said that, or agreed to that.
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Post by kbrundag on Oct 30, 2011 9:58:20 GMT -5
Yea, remember the "highlights" are just a propagandist cherries and nut version published by our beloved Union meant to sway the membership in favor... You don't think that our beloved Union would intentionally lie or forget to mention some details of the actual contract do you? Shame on you.
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Post by lap65 on Oct 30, 2011 22:23:46 GMT -5
Pension, you really think we will be getting a pension by the time we retire. Can you say "we have to stay competitive with the transplants".
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Post by PUNISHER on Oct 30, 2011 23:46:32 GMT -5
well said metalman...
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Post by reedycreekbuc on Oct 31, 2011 0:43:48 GMT -5
You people are hopeless! Enjoy your wait for your check! Try not to have a coronary before then!
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Post by ktpstock on Oct 31, 2011 19:19:37 GMT -5
You are right reedy! Let's not bitch about every little thing! Lets bitch about alll the little things that we let beome one BIG FUCKIN HEADACHE! I am with metalman! I am gonna bitch and hollar about everything they do. Cause you can bet they are fucking us one way or another. Whether it was or wans't in the contract does not matter, the fact that it was in the highlights is enough for me. The union trying to get this thing passed is why it was in the highlights therefore I will bitch! That makes it even worse my own union leadership lying to us.
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Post by PUNISHER on Oct 31, 2011 21:24:49 GMT -5
and well said ktpstock....it's like..oh look here at the highlights of this great contract..your profit share will be paid at this time...vote yes.....blah blah blah....now afterwards....well you'll get it eventually..
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Post by ktpstock on Nov 1, 2011 1:26:45 GMT -5
Handwriting is on the wall people, contract scheduled to be re-opened sometime in 2012. COUNT ON IT!!!!
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Post by marcus on Nov 1, 2011 18:14:47 GMT -5
So is the union getting 10 percent of it plus union dues?Or so they have to go to court to see if they can steal it from us?
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