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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Jan 24, 2012 1:59:03 GMT -5
this is from WHAS11.COM, ----Posted on January 23, 2012 at 6:52 PM Updated today at 7:02 PM LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WHAS11) -- Ford's decision to give pay raises and bonuses to 20,000 white collar workers isn't sitting well with everyone. .......... Hopefully this bullshit will be remembered at the end of this contract, ,the one they scared enough people into voting YES for. I bet their fear has now changed into embarrassment, for me im just still disgusted with our present hidden leadership. A 2.7% raise for us, without OT would have be about($ .77 an hour) $6200....in four yrs... and wouldnt go away like the bonus did. please wake up folks.
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Post by lap65 on Jan 24, 2012 13:31:00 GMT -5
And Humana is getting a raise on our backs too.
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Post by ktpfromlap on Mar 3, 2012 9:36:33 GMT -5
Well, when you think like a trained monkey and act accordingly then it only stands to reason that you will be treated like a trained monkey.
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Post by tonyp on Mar 3, 2012 11:40:13 GMT -5
I just dropped Humana. The only benefit for having Humana is having allergy shots paid for. If you don't get them you should switch. My sis works for Humana and said its gonna get worse. All they want to deal with are Medicare and Medicaid. That's where the money is for them.
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Post by lapwasktp on Mar 3, 2012 11:59:28 GMT -5
You know Humana has gon eup in deductable, but they only pay our claims out of the Ford POOL of $$$, it's not there $$ invested paying our bills, it's Ford.. Humana is just a ficilator and a paper pusher for Ford.. ** By the way (BCBS) Blue Cross Blue Scheid has NO LIMIT on all Out of Network / Out of Pocket expenses.... You owe 10% of ALL Out of Network charges.... Pretty easy to go past $1000 you think.. I'm staying with Humana, at least I know what I can owe ($1000 per year) Were keeping our house!!!! ....
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Post by nvsked1 on Mar 3, 2012 12:06:23 GMT -5
You know Humana has gon eup in deductable, but they only pay our claims out of the Ford POOL of $$$, it's not there $$ invested paying our bills, it's Ford.. Humana is just a ficilator and a paper pusher for Ford.. ** By the way (BCBS) Blue Cross Blue Scheid has NO LIMIT on all Out of Network / Out of Pocket expenses.... You owe 10% of ALL Out of Network charges.... Pretty easy to go past $1000 you think.. I'm staying with Humana, at least I know what I can owe ($1000 per year) Were keeping our house!!!! .... But everybody takes BC, hard to find non-network provider, and freedom to use any doctor is nice
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Post by jeter3000 on Mar 3, 2012 12:26:32 GMT -5
Yes, not getting a raise for several contracts now really stinks! I just keep reminding myself how fortunate my family and I are to have a home and job to go to. After moving my family 2 times due to plant closures we all (family)stay Grateful and seem to grow closer as the times get tougher. I see great things ahead for LAP and am glad to be a part of this family now!
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Post by Ktp1989 on Mar 3, 2012 13:23:57 GMT -5
Don't worry....if the membership is still pissed 4 years from now the IUAW will come down with scare tactics and most will fold up again and vote for it...enjoy!
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Post by lapwasktp on Mar 3, 2012 13:35:29 GMT -5
Nvsked1, Everybody is Not in network... Don't go on vacation out of State and don't leave the State for any reason and if you do, Don't get hurt.. You will see who takes BCBS and who doesn't..... Just saying...
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Post by tonyp on Mar 3, 2012 14:27:58 GMT -5
Vacation?? I'll take my chances on MAYBE going out of the network for a whole 2 weeks out of the year in order to save money now. Besides BCBS is the Ford nationwide plan how could you not find a dr in the plan. My sister works for Humana and told me I should switch.
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Post by lapwasktp on Mar 3, 2012 15:20:27 GMT -5
No worries.. My wife has been in health care for over 28 years as an RN... I'm staying with Humana... Good luck.... Remember, if you do go out of Network in an emergency, MAYBE you will get to keep your stuff or go bankrupt... Not rolling the dice for a few hundred $$$...
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Post by retirelap on Mar 3, 2012 18:33:10 GMT -5
I bet you will find a Bc/bs provider anywhere In the USA! Not gonna say that for humana!
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Post by lapwasktp on Mar 3, 2012 18:56:58 GMT -5
Daa Humana doesn't have in network or out of network providers. BCBS DOES. Humana pays everywhere Again good luck with BCBS remember NO limit $$$$ on out of network charges. Roll those dice.
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Post by tonyp on Mar 3, 2012 19:13:14 GMT -5
Dice just rolled came up snake eyes for Humana. Nothing but snakes there.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Mar 3, 2012 20:41:23 GMT -5
I switched to BC/BS also...screw Humana and their rates. They will come back with a better offer to compete.
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Post by brizzel on Mar 3, 2012 22:46:17 GMT -5
I just had three prescriptions filled with bc with no problems. Humana would not fill them.
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Post by ktpelec on Mar 4, 2012 12:01:40 GMT -5
BC&BS for myself and family, since day one. They have always offered what fit our situation best.
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Post by rkr on Mar 4, 2012 12:27:42 GMT -5
to lapwasktp I've been turned away from doctors because they wouldn't even accept our humana insurance. Dont feel too comfortable with it, or you may be sorry.
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Post by lapwasktp on Mar 4, 2012 14:28:15 GMT -5
I hope everyone relizes that if you have BCBS and you go to the emergency room and it is not determined to be an emergency (BCBS makes that judgement) You will owe 100% of the bill... Humana covers all emergency room visits.. Real and Non... So don't run to the ER if you have BCBS just to get a sick note for Ford.. You will likely be losing a weeks pay in charges ..... Keeping it real....
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Post by tonyp on Mar 4, 2012 15:35:04 GMT -5
Who goes to the ER for a sick note? Its $100 deductible regardless if you're not admitted!! You have a PCP and there are plenty of Immediate care centers around the area. It's common sense to not go to the ER if it's not an emergency. Smh
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Post by kbrundag on Mar 4, 2012 20:34:06 GMT -5
Sooo, Raises for Everyone but us huh?
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