|
Post by nra4life on Jul 8, 2015 7:28:02 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by reedycreekbuc on Jul 8, 2015 7:37:49 GMT -5
This is the most important issue during negotiations. A raise and all that other stuff is insignificant to me.
|
|
|
Post by lap65 on Jul 8, 2015 10:39:39 GMT -5
I personally feel a raise is way overdue, but this is as or more important
|
|
|
Post by tryingtomakeit on Jul 8, 2015 11:03:50 GMT -5
Any raise we receive will be negated by the loss of healthcare. Its going to happen, maybenot until '18, but its going to happen.
We've been sold a bill of goods, and they did it with our own money. The iuaw pushed and backed Obamacare and when we do get fucked and put on it, they'll say with a straight face, that its a good thing.
Now you and I both know that the bastards at the international level will keep their healthcare plan. And we'll pay for it. You see, as most progressive fucktards see it, its the low level plan is good for you common folk, but not for us.
Fuck'em.
|
|
|
Post by pmooret on Jul 8, 2015 13:14:29 GMT -5
Maybe it's time for all UAW "Closet Republicans" to come out of the closet!
|
|
|
Post by tryingtomakeit on Jul 8, 2015 14:42:31 GMT -5
Awww, does it upset you comrade when people think for themselves?
Keep mowing the grass sheep.
|
|
|
Post by tiger66 on Jul 8, 2015 15:20:22 GMT -5
Obamacare, illegal immigrants killing Americans and the gov. Overlooking it, gay marriage and socialism. What's not to love about the democrates?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 18:39:06 GMT -5
Buy supplemental health care now (Aflac) because if you get hurt outside of work you're not going to get $hit from your regular insurance. I think its only like $400 a week now but that will be gone when good ole Libtard Healthcare kicks in. After all, we make over $35K a year.
|
|
beerme41
New Member
I keep hitting "escape" but I'm still here
Posts: 5
|
Post by beerme41 on Jul 9, 2015 8:08:14 GMT -5
Obamacare, illegal immigrants killing Americans and the gov. Overlooking it, gay marriage and socialism. What's not to love about the democrates? Isn't social security and Medicare " socialism"? And if you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married. Otherwise, it doesn't concern you. Mind your own business.
|
|
|
Post by tiger66 on Jul 9, 2015 9:27:58 GMT -5
Hit a nerve?
|
|
|
Post by lap65 on Jul 9, 2015 10:30:48 GMT -5
It isn't enough to just live & let live, the agenda is for you to accept, condone & celebrate it
|
|
|
Post by Bcrew4life on Jul 9, 2015 11:39:06 GMT -5
Actually, it did hit a nerve. There's no place for bigotry on this forum. I was wrong for including racism in my post, so I deleted that part. As far as bigotry goes, I see that all the time on this forum and I stand by what I said about that.
|
|
|
Post by lap65 on Jul 9, 2015 12:19:13 GMT -5
And there it is......
|
|
|
Post by tiger66 on Jul 9, 2015 12:26:28 GMT -5
Really? Name 1 thing I said that was racist or bigotry. Typical dem. to start screaming racist. I guess a peanut butter and jelly sandwich is racist too?
|
|
|
Post by lap65 on Jul 9, 2015 12:43:49 GMT -5
If you don't agree with the homosexual worldview you are a bigot, but the very definition of the word makes the one screaming for you to be quiet about your opinion or belief ........a bigot.
|
|
|
Post by pmooret on Jul 9, 2015 14:20:31 GMT -5
Social Security and Medicare are not mandatory, you don't have to sign up and there's no penalty for not doing so. One can provide for their own income during retirement and before Obamacare one could purchase their own insurance in the free market or possibly have their insurance provided for them through their retirement benefits from their employer. With Obama care, there is no free market. And the argument that auto insurance is mandatory and health insurance falls into the same category doesn't hold water. If you don't have auto insurance and have an accident there is usually a victim who has repair or medical bills. If you don't have health insurance there is no victim. The Supremes got this one wrong.
|
|
beerme41
New Member
I keep hitting "escape" but I'm still here
Posts: 5
|
Post by beerme41 on Jul 9, 2015 14:31:01 GMT -5
Why yes you did. I'm sick of people complaining about same sex marriage. The world did not end. Mind your business.
|
|
|
Post by tiger66 on Jul 9, 2015 14:40:29 GMT -5
I think if we ban all guns it will solve all these problems
|
|
|
Post by lap65 on Jul 9, 2015 14:47:06 GMT -5
And yet others have just as much right to be sick of it all over the news, the media, the town square, etc etc etc
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 16:10:27 GMT -5
Back on topic, yes it is Socialist Health Care that we will be forced into. Whether you're gay, straight ,bi, transgender, it doesn't matter. We are all going to get fucked. I accept all types of people except for liberal brain dead morons who want Big Government to run their lives.
|
|
|
Post by tryingtomakeit on Jul 9, 2015 16:21:59 GMT -5
You keep talking like that and your ticket to Black Lake will be revoked.
|
|
|
Post by JoePieper on Jul 9, 2015 17:29:47 GMT -5
I've been out of the Republican closet for years. How is all this hope and change you Democraps voted for working out for you?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 21:59:25 GMT -5
You keep talking like that and your ticket to Black Lake will be revoked. Another drain to our union dues that is not needed. Full of drunks and whores.
|
|
|
Post by blackbird66 on Jul 10, 2015 6:03:56 GMT -5
I've been out of the Republican closet for years. How is all this hope and change you Democraps voted for working out for you? Ky, if I remember correctly, did not vote for Obama, but was won by a Republican both times.
|
|
|
Post by Bcrew4life on Jul 10, 2015 13:35:32 GMT -5
If you don't agree with the homosexual worldview you are a bigot, but the very definition of the word makes the one screaming for you to be quiet about your opinion or belief ........a bigot. You can say and believe whatever the fuck you want. But we also have the right to call out homophobic bigots at work. If you don't like Gay folks that's your business. But running your mouth about it and showing your hatred towards them here or at work makes it every-bodies business. Remember, Ford Motor Company & supposedly the UAW have a zero tolerance policy regarding this issue (although I've heard a few UAW reps. say things about Gay folks that would get them in a shit load of trouble and possibly even terminated"). I guarantee the next time I hear the word "Fag" , "Dyke" or "Queer" at work I'm going to call the person or persons out on it & I WILL take it up front. I have friends & family that are LGBT & I'm sick of being forced to listen to the bigots at work.
|
|
|
Post by lap65 on Jul 10, 2015 13:56:51 GMT -5
I applaud you for correcting your earlier post.I also agree with you that we shouldn't be showing hatred to anyone for their beliefs or opinions (terrorists, serial killers etc of course excluded) I dont believe in name calling. I work with & am kind & polite to many I dont agree with on many issues, most of them dont even know I dont agree. I never even stated whether I agree or disagree, just pointed out that bigotry can come from either side & maybe not in your case but many times is a word thrown around to intimidate others to just be quiet. While you should not use hate & name calling, you do have a right to a different view & the right to state that view without being called a bigot. On the other hand some would say that this is a public forum, not owned by Ford Motor Co or the union & that tolerance policys do not apply here, & that if you don't like it you don't have to come here, just as I have been told regarding the profanity that you used that I find very offensive.
|
|
|
Post by remember1976 on Jul 11, 2015 4:38:36 GMT -5
So.... Terry Bowman writes a provocative opinion piece that was published by The Detroit News and KTP Republicans react accordingly. You can just smell the fear.
For a fair and balanced view follow the link back to Mr. Bowman's opinion piece and read the comments. ;-)
Keep in mind that Mr. Bowman is no objective observer. He is an ideological right-wing Republican (aren't they all in the 21st century GOP?) who ran for the U.S. House of Representatives last year and lost badly. The Michiganders in his Congressional District did not buy into his political position. Not only do he and his kind hate the ACA... they also hate Social Security, Medicare, the EPA, organized labor, domestic spending on infrastructure or anything else, apple pie and our parent's, grandparent's, and great-grandparent's vision of America. He and his kind would like to dismantle it all. The one thing he and his kind agree to pour ever increasing amounts of money into is the Pentagon because more Amercan treasure and blood needs to be expended in foreign wars to protect us from the bogeymen. Tax cut, spend on hideously expensive wars, and borrow... and then hypocritically cry about the resulting mounting Federal deficit and try mightily to convince the American sheeple to allow them to gut every American government program that benefits the citiizenry in order to "fix" their ginned up financial "crisis."
Keep up the fear and loathing 24/7.
|
|