|
|
Post by jmo2713 on Jun 10, 2019 13:49:43 GMT -5
A job was eliminated on my team. Half was added to my existing job, the other half added to another. I am lowest seniority on the team. Who gets numbed out?
|
|
|
|
Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 10, 2019 13:57:16 GMT -5
A job was eliminated on my team. Half was added to my existing job, the other half added to another. I am lowest seniority on the team. Who gets numbed out? From what I’ve read in contract.It states when jobs are combined the operation with the most workload gets the job,not seniority.But when they add it to 2 jobs I don’t know.Id say the lowest gets axed .if they reduce the size of team then it’s lowest senior person |
|
|
|
Post by gator on Jun 10, 2019 19:27:39 GMT -5
They eliminated the job are they eliminating a person off the drot?
|
|
|
|
Post by jmo2713 on Jun 10, 2019 21:25:13 GMT -5
Yes, one less person on the team/drot
|
|
|
|
Post by gator on Jun 11, 2019 13:04:59 GMT -5
If you are the lowest seniority on the team and they are removing one from the drot you will be the one to go to available work unless someone on the team volunteers to go.
|
|
|
|
Post by deeznuts on Jun 11, 2019 13:40:27 GMT -5
Local Contract page 21.
The MODS or OIS sheet determines who gets the most work keeps the job, if its equal or no time study exists most senior person does. If they
Local Contract page 13
Reduction on a team will be least senior person reduce out and will go to available work.
|
|
|
|
Post by rockyt on Jun 11, 2019 16:34:44 GMT -5
I would say that the dumbass who takes on the most work should have to keep the job forever. Maybe that way the suck asses wouldn’t be able to overload a job and then cut a deal with management to get a better one now that they helped them load up one job up and cut out a union brother.
|
|
|
|
Post by jmo2713 on Jun 11, 2019 20:10:09 GMT -5
I would say that the dumbass who takes on the most work should have to keep the job forever. Maybe that way the suck asses wouldn’t be able to overload a job and then cut a deal with management to get a better one now that they helped them load up one job up and cut out a union brother. |
|
|
|
Post by jmo2713 on Jun 11, 2019 20:12:39 GMT -5
It was a rebalance by management. Nobody sucked ass or asked for more work. Seems to me you are the dumbass who doesn’t understand.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 12, 2019 3:35:44 GMT -5
It was a rebalance by management. Nobody sucked ass or asked for more work. Seems to me you are the dumbass who doesn’t understand. Just remember..The more you do the more they will give you.Their goal is to eliminate as many jobs as possible.And they only understand when you show them.Good luck |
|
|
|
Post by rockyt on Jun 12, 2019 4:35:46 GMT -5
It was a rebalance by management. Nobody sucked ass or asked for more work. Seems to me you are the dumbass who doesn’t understand. You are the one who doesn’t understand. Just because they want to cut jobs and ask you to take on more work doesn’t mean you have to. It’s called fighting work. If you don’t stand up to management they will bring you more work every year. |
|
|
|
Post by nra4life on Jun 12, 2019 5:49:48 GMT -5
It was a rebalance by management. Nobody sucked ass or asked for more work. Seems to me you are the dumbass who doesn’t understand. Lol, man are you in for a long life in this place. |
|
|
|
Post by ktpveteran6499 on Jun 12, 2019 16:03:23 GMT -5
When they see you playing on your phone half the night, of course more work is going to come your way.
|
|
|
|
Post by nra4life on Jun 13, 2019 7:42:22 GMT -5
When they see you playing on your phone half the night, of course more work is going to come your way. True, I have no idea why they haven’t banned the phones yet, imagine it won’t be too much longer. |
|
|
|
Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 13, 2019 8:19:22 GMT -5
When they see you playing on your phone half the night, of course more work is going to come your way. True, I have no idea why they haven’t banned the phones yet, imagine it won’t be too much longer. They cant.They May try but will never happen. |
|
|
|
Post by nra4life on Jun 13, 2019 8:49:33 GMT -5
True, I have no idea why they haven’t banned the phones yet, imagine it won’t be too much longer. They cant.They May try but will never happen. Smokers said the same thing.... |
|
|
|
Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 13, 2019 8:52:56 GMT -5
They cant.They May try but will never happen. Smokers said the same thing.... Right.And they’re getting 2-20 min extra breaks a day and a nice covered shelter to smoke in case it rains,and making insurance rates go up..Should of BANNED THEM ON CO prop.Worked out good for Ford🤭 |
|
|
|
Post by saugerman on Jun 13, 2019 21:14:57 GMT -5
Smokers said the same thing.... Right.And they’re getting 2-20 min extra breaks a day and a nice covered shelter to smoke in case it rains,and making insurance rates go up..Should of BANNED THEM ON CO prop.Worked out good for Ford🤭 Really??? I've been here way before the smoking ban and have heard these same claims...What area does this? Maybe I'm in the wrong place or wrong crew...or maybe I'm holding my mouth wrong....Funny thing some of the loudest people complaining on this issue don't mind spitting tobacco juice on the floor bitching about smokers...Sounds to me that's more of a team leader issue....if they don't have a issue with it maybe just maybe.....just saying |
|
|
|
Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 14, 2019 5:17:03 GMT -5
Right.And they’re getting 2-20 min extra breaks a day and a nice covered shelter to smoke in case it rains,and making insurance rates go up..Should of BANNED THEM ON CO prop.Worked out good for Ford🤭 Really??? I've been here way before the smoking ban and have heard these same claims...What area does this? Maybe I'm in the wrong place or wrong crew...or maybe I'm holding my mouth wrong....Funny thing some of the loudest people complaining on this issue don't mind spitting tobacco juice on the floor bitching about smokers...Sounds to me that's more of a team leader issue....if they don't have a issue with it maybe just maybe.....just saying All I’m saying is ,lots of people that smoke take smoke breaks🤔People That don’t smoke don’t take EXTRA breaks.And they do have smoking shelters for the smokers.They don’t have NON smoking shelters.I smoked for 15 yrs.My dad worked at Philip Morris for 41yrs.I don’t like walking in breathing smoke since I had a heart stent put in.Not saying just saying |
|
|
|
Post by driveshaftgrunt on Jun 14, 2019 8:56:45 GMT -5
So you took HALF of another job?
Was your workload that light?
Jesus.
"Well management told me I had to do it...…….." leads to a long, painful life in here.
But then again, what I've seen from the union timestudy people the last few years...… I honestly believe they're working for the process engineers sometimes
|
|
|
|
Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 14, 2019 9:18:03 GMT -5
I don’t know that these new guys even think about the future.At least when I started in 95 we had the 93s to SORTA help us along,Hell most of them were already sick of this shit.But they were damn happy they had a whole group under them on seniority.We never took work on a job lightly,and I still won’t.Cant speak for the team I’m on now but .?
|
|
|
|
Post by nra4life on Jun 14, 2019 9:18:07 GMT -5
So you took HALF of another job? Was your workload that light? Jesus. "Well management told me I had to do it...…….." leads to a long, painful life in here. But then again, what I've seen from the union timestudy people the last few years...… I honestly believe they're working for the process engineers sometimes They don’t work for the process guys but they do go to lunch together......sorta reminds you of politicians, argue and scream at each other in front of the cameras....then go golf together and do lunch. Can someone name one person who has been fired for not holding a job? You can’t roll over, have to come in with your game face on when this stuff starts, they will borderline harass you for months....how stubborn will you be, or will you just give in? Stay safe people. |
|
|
|
Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 14, 2019 9:24:48 GMT -5
Exactly^^^^.We did 005 wire loom job in excursion,4 of us rotating on it.We NEVER held the job.They threatened us to the point the UAW said we were on our own?TRUE.But we stuck together and was harassed for a year or more.I left for body and we still was hammering the stop button.Key is get people to rotate.Strength in numbers.Does suck coming to work for that period of time tho.
|
|
|
|
Post by plantworker2019 on Jul 12, 2019 19:33:22 GMT -5
I don’t know that these new guys even think about the future.At least when I started in 95 we had the 93s to SORTA help us along,Hell most of them were already sick of this shit.But they were damn happy they had a whole group under them on seniority.We never took work on a job lightly,and I still won’t.Cant speak for the team I’m on now but .? I’m with you , I don’t just take added work without fighting it, these 5 year and less people think if they say do it then they just do it even if it makes job overloaded... Crazy shit These people might as well let management kick the shit out of them once a week no different than running an overloaded job |
|
