A couple of nice articles Nov 4, 2010 20:34:09 GMT -5 Quote Select PostDeselect PostLink to PostMemberGive GiftBack to Top Post by Jr on Nov 4, 2010 20:34:09 GMT -5 don't know if they have been posted or not. Look at the end of the C-max article at who is mentioned. Lets hope soconsumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2012-ford-c-max.htmconsumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2012-ford-escape.htm