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Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 14, 2011 23:21:59 GMT -5
They surveyed people on bcrew bodyshop tonight about going to frame on day shift.wondering if they will let you out of a bid job to go?Also whats frame like?Worked trim 9 yrs and body 7.
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Post by JoePieper on Jun 14, 2011 23:39:52 GMT -5
Worked Frame for 5 years. All I can say is given the choice I would rather go to Frame than Trim any day.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Jun 15, 2011 5:55:09 GMT -5
I had no problems in frame...kinda liked it to be honest. But of course, there are plenty of shitty jobs to go with the better ones.
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Post by goodtime on Jun 15, 2011 7:30:37 GMT -5
Frame is not too bad to work. I worked over there for 10yrs and never had it that bad. The IPF is what you need to watch. But if you worked trim for 9 yrs you will probably not think its that bad.
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Post by olddude on Jun 15, 2011 8:23:11 GMT -5
stay in body if you can. been trying to get off frame and into body for about 2 years.
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Post by shortee on Jun 15, 2011 14:15:02 GMT -5
WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!! I thought there was a freeze on rolling shifts. I've been waiting 3yrs to go back to dayshift cause I've got 14yrs seniority and stuck on nights cause i'm waiting on LAP to fucking leave> My family life has been extremely interupted since the union let them come over and do what the fuck they wanted> Yoy gave them a dam list of bids before they even started work at KTP> I'm going off on all union reps tonight for allowing body to go to frame on days> I'm tired of getting fucked by my on fucking home plant and uaw!!!!
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Post by paintutility on Jun 15, 2011 14:33:22 GMT -5
Why dont you tell us how you really feel short guy. By the way, if you get the chance come over to LAP so that we can screw you some more.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Jun 15, 2011 15:54:15 GMT -5
No freeze on anything until July 31st...
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Post by Ironman2301 on Jun 15, 2011 19:40:58 GMT -5
They asked day shift body this morning too!
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Post by fist on Jun 15, 2011 20:26:08 GMT -5
If you are wondering what the frame lines are like, just stop for a sec. and ask yourself why they would ask you to leave body and go there. Probably because they are short people, right? And why are they short you ask?? I would be willing to bet that that area has one of the highest medical deals going. Hell just walk over there and look at the parts and hoists and guns they use. Most of them weigh more than the person using it. I know of several guys that work on those lines that have already had shoulder, arm, some kind of surgery and would love to get off that line into body. I know body has some bad jobs like every area does, but I don't think the jobs in body destroys your body like the ones on the frame lines. Just my opinion, hope that helps you make your decision.
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Post by moelap on Jun 15, 2011 20:59:30 GMT -5
Why are they surveying??? Aren't we suppose to be using the department transfer list? Shouldn't they be using night shift frame to fill dayshift frame????Then move by senority people who have signed up years ago and still waiting to get to the frame line? What is the point of a department transfer if you can never get out?
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 15, 2011 22:52:10 GMT -5
The freeze doesnt start till 7-31-2011.Also I signed up for dept. transfer today and was 4th?So I dont think you can be signed up for years???I guess body has more extra people than other depts.
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Post by ktpgal89 on Jun 15, 2011 23:50:01 GMT -5
The freeze doesnt start till 7-31-2011.Also I signed up for dept. transfer today and was 4th?So I dont think you can be signed up for years???I guess body has more extra people than other depts. Paint has to send 3 people to frameline..management surveyed for volunteers and if they didn't get their numbers-the the youngest 3 will go to the frameline.
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Post by freaknnuts on Jun 16, 2011 3:58:51 GMT -5
I thought Paint Dept. was hurting for people. I know body shop day shift was constantly loaning people out to Paint. I think that is silly that they send the bottom few when they cant even run normal everyday production.
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Post by moelap on Jun 16, 2011 11:35:49 GMT -5
The freeze doesnt start till 7-31-2011.Also I signed up for dept. transfer today and was 4th?So I dont think you can be signed up for years???I guess body has more extra people than other depts. Signed up for frame in July 2009....still in U-Trim !!! so yes you can be on the list for years!!!!!Unless they pick and choose from the list who they want to leave trim!!!
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Post by justmefornow on Jun 16, 2011 13:15:03 GMT -5
You may want to check the system again...they seem to clear out all roll cards and transfers when they want. You will have to resubmit where you want to go and for what shift again.
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Post by moelap on Jun 16, 2011 13:57:26 GMT -5
You may want to check the system again...they seem to clear out all roll cards and transfers when they want. You will have to resubmit where you want to go and for what shift again. I was told if you log on to check where you are on the list it puts you back at the bottom....I was told the committee person could check to see what the status of your dept. transfer is?? Just want a department transfer...not trying to go to days!!!! Days are not for me....Not a morning person!!!
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Jun 16, 2011 14:33:16 GMT -5
You would be correct...you need to put in your transfer and leave it there. It has to be on record 30 days before it can be honored.
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Post by justmefornow on Jun 16, 2011 21:26:04 GMT -5
My husband had put in a dept transfer and was told to resubmit that they had cleared it out and was starting all over again...again that's just what he was told.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 16, 2011 23:39:17 GMT -5
Huh all I know is I signrd up Mon. and it said I was forth.So
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Post by justmefornow on Jun 17, 2011 7:57:40 GMT -5
If you signed up Monday you are good....I thought you had signed up a while back...sorry just relaying what info I had been told.
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Post by kessinger on Jun 17, 2011 9:26:18 GMT -5
They did purge the HPS system in the begining of June so that we would have acurate transfers lists to work off of with all the upcoming moves. The lists where for everyone that had signed up in the last 9 years, a lot didn't even work here anymore or had already moved to frame or elsewhere.
The company bullitin came out on June 7th notifying everyone and Tony may have even posted it here as he sometimes does.
When they needed people from frame they pulled up the list and it had six people on it. they agreed to take all 6. Three were from body and the rest from final. I did agree to them waiting to move the three that were not in body til the LAP folks start transfering back, but they have been granted a transfer. We also agreed these people would not count towards the cap of 10 transfers to the frame line.
Being the list was empty they went and asked for volunteers from body (wanting 6) and paint (wanting 3)
We will still transfer people to frame when LAP starts taking people back so if you want to goto frame sign up before July 31st. You technicly have to be on transfer list for 30 days prior to being eligable but we agreed to waive that for anyone signing up prior to July 31st since the system had been purged.
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