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Post by TonyV on Jun 21, 2011 8:42:04 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 21, 2011 10:51:34 GMT -5
Wow imagine freep writing a column about the grievance in JUNE right before contract talks in JULY?Sounds like its gonna turnout just like we all thought .Being part of the contract talks.We the UAW should demand that this issue is resolved before we even consider talking about another 4 years!!!!!
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Post by atltolap on Jun 21, 2011 13:05:09 GMT -5
I can see from the comments posted to the Det Free Press that the public still loves us as much as ever!
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Post by pmooret on Jun 22, 2011 8:00:02 GMT -5
I'm glad that they don't get to vote on our contract.
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Post by Ktp1989 on Jun 22, 2011 14:12:06 GMT -5
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Post by Jr on Jun 22, 2011 16:29:49 GMT -5
After reading that article I can honestly say I'm looking at a 50$ payback and a promise to Never do it again. Remember International is Negotiating this for Us
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Post by bo862 on Jun 22, 2011 20:30:27 GMT -5
“I haven’t conducted a hearing,” Grissom said. “I assume the parties are talking.”
Why would the arbitrator just assume that two parties are just going to work it out? This will be shoved under a rug.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Jun 22, 2011 20:32:02 GMT -5
The whole thing is a joke!
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Jun 22, 2011 21:02:19 GMT -5
But "its gone to the arbitrator"................. That's what we've been told right? We've got'em by the balls, right?
This has been complete bullshit from the first day, and the important parties in the company and IUAW knew that.
And your proof is the fact that the arbitrator that we've heard such good things about talks as if he hasn't even been APPROACHED about the fuckin' thing yet........
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Post by TonyV on Jun 22, 2011 23:18:03 GMT -5
Here is my take on it: Here is the last union bulletin: From the National Ford Dept. Vice President Jimmy Settles: As of 3/30/11, Ford Motor Company has indicated they are not prepared to move forward. Our Legal Department is requesting that the assigned Arbitrator issue a subpoena and two subsequent dates to hear the merits of the case. We will keep you informed on any additional that becomes available. SMS Now - The date for the hearing with the arbitrator was April! Why did the IUAW not subpeona Ford to show up at that date! Easy - because Bob King and the IUAW does not want to increase Fords fixed cost(Your money) and put them at a disadvantage against GM and Chrysler which they partially own through the VEBA. BAM! ....You are working for two corporations now. One for a paycheck - and one for your retirement benefits. Smile - at least you have a job.
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Post by trinitus on Jun 22, 2011 23:20:35 GMT -5
I agree Tony V. Also do remember what King said when we voted down the last contract......" I won't let Ford be at a DISADVANTAGE ". He is keeping his word.
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Post by Ktp1989 on Jun 23, 2011 12:39:24 GMT -5
Bob King and the IUAW are in a bad spot because they have really put out the message that they are agressively working on this grievance and that It will be settled before contract is voted on so he's backed himself into a corner...if it's not settled or was all show and doesn't result in a significant gain....the contract vote will be a disaster for Mr. King and the IUAW....just my opinion.
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Post by Jr on Jun 23, 2011 14:18:28 GMT -5
Bob King and the IUAW are in a bad spot because they have really put out the message that they are agressively working on this grievance and that It will be settled before contract is voted on so he's backed himself into a corner...if it's not settled or was all show and doesn't result in a significant gain....the contract vote will be a disaster for Mr. King and the IUAW....just my opinion. I agree!
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Jun 23, 2011 16:27:39 GMT -5
I believe unless there are 4 raises (one as soon as the contract is signed) and a decent signing bonus, the contract vote will still be a disaster for Mr. King. People are sick of them not having to work under the same contract as we do. If we give back, so should they.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jun 23, 2011 22:57:58 GMT -5
New articles but its the same old FUCKING BULLSHIT that we have heard since march????WTF?
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Post by fordmakesnosense on Jun 24, 2011 10:56:09 GMT -5
well said metalman
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Post by vader on Jun 28, 2011 0:07:20 GMT -5
I'm voting No....don't give a shit what they say or do. It's all BS!
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Post by tryingtomakeit on Jun 28, 2011 7:21:04 GMT -5
It doesnt matter if there is a sign on bonus and raises every year for the life of the contract, the pussies wont enforce it anyway!!!!!!!!!!
Just lay in there and get it, pay those dues, its your duty to make sure the A-holes at the IUAW level get their raises, while you shovel shit and keep working at a 2005 rate.
And they wonder why they cant organize transplants!!!!! "Hey Hyundai workers, how would you like us to negotiate you a contract that we wont enforce, give away half the contract through concessions that we will strongarm you into believing will save your job, and with your extra dues, we'll give ourselves raises!!! Hows that sound?"
Good luck with that.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Jun 28, 2011 8:19:34 GMT -5
couldn't agree more...hard sell to someone watching us lose.
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Post by beenaround on Jun 28, 2011 8:53:14 GMT -5
It doesnt matter if there is a sign on bonus and raises every year for the life of the contract, the pussies wont enforce it anyway!!!!!!!!!! Just lay in there and get it, pay those dues, its your duty to make sure the A-holes at the IUAW level get their raises, while you shovel shit and keep working at a 2005 rate. And they wonder why they cant organize transplants!!!!! "Hey Hyundai workers, how would you like us to negotiate you a contract that we wont enforce, give away half the contract through concessions that we will strongarm you into believing will save your job, and with your extra dues, we'll give ourselves raises!!! Hows that sound?" Good luck with that. Helluva great post! To bad that couldn't be sent directly to Bob King's personnel e-mail.
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Post by richatktp1 on Jun 30, 2011 13:00:30 GMT -5
Just give me "The Jelly Of The Month Club" and we will call it even.
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Post by kbrundag on Jun 30, 2011 14:26:13 GMT -5
Blah, blah, blah... That's my two cents, I feel better now.
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