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Post by tcap89 on Oct 23, 2011 15:43:17 GMT -5
I would like to thank Scott for setting up this UAW skilled trades forum. My name is Rick DeBord and I sent Scott a PM and requested that he set up a forum for UAW trades to discuss issues unique to the trades. There will most likely be a lot of changes in the trades with the mechanical work teams possibly being implemented. I hope that a lot of people take advantage of this forum to talk about any trades related issues that they want to discuss.
I am a Millwright currently working at TCAP. We are scheduled to close Dec 19th and I will be transfering to LAP to work in production (hopefully temporarily). With Ford saying they will be cutting the trades from 9,000 people to 8,000 I may be in production permanently.
Anybody want to discuss any trades issues?
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Post by ktpfitter on Oct 23, 2011 19:42:59 GMT -5
I'm a fitter at ktp. I've read these boards for awhile but never posted. This forum is a good idea because trades are in for some changes. Good luck to you at lap. I'm originally from lorain assembly
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Post by kwlap on Oct 23, 2011 19:59:45 GMT -5
TCAP89, I am also transfering to LAP.Skilled to production,Sandusky plant.How many tradespersons from TCAP are transfering to LAP?Best of luck with your move.
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Post by tcap89 on Oct 24, 2011 6:45:14 GMT -5
I'm a fitter at ktp. I've read these boards for awhile but never posted. This forum is a good idea because trades are in for some changes. Good luck to you at lap. I'm originally from lorain assembly Thanks for wishing me good luck. I hope enough trades people use this forum to make it worthwhile. I think it will be good to talk about problems as things change. If people from different plants talk about issues that come up we may be able to all help each other. At the very least we will be better informed about the differences in how the trades operate from plant to plant. |
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Post by tcap89 on Oct 24, 2011 6:53:38 GMT -5
TCAP89, I am also transfering to LAP.Skilled to production,Sandusky plant.How many tradespersons from TCAP are transfering to LAP?Best of luck with your move. We have 9 tradesmen signed up to transfer to LAP for production work. 3 MW, 3 TM, 2PF and 1 welder. It is possible that a couple of the people that are signed up could take buyouts and not transfer. Do you know how many are transfering from Sandusky? Best of luck with your move also. |
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Post by kwlap on Oct 24, 2011 7:33:13 GMT -5
We have 15 signed up.2 layout,6pipefitter,1 ind.truck,2 diemakers,1 elec,1 toolmaker,2 machine repair.They just reposted production jobs for Kent. Chic. & Ohio assy plants.
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Post by cal50 on Oct 24, 2011 7:44:39 GMT -5
Excellent idea on the trades forum. I think this avenue of information sharing will travel faster than the union channels and likely more accurate.
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Post by nicdar on Oct 24, 2011 13:46:00 GMT -5
This forum is a great idea for skilled trades! I'm a toolmaker from KTP
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Post by millwright1111 on Oct 24, 2011 19:44:45 GMT -5
Millwright from Indy, on ILO for 11 mths. now. Plant closing 2012. 16 Millwrights on list to transfer to LAP.
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Post by whiteford on Oct 24, 2011 23:29:57 GMT -5
Well it is looking like it may be slim pickings for the MW's. So far 3 from TCAP. 16 from indiana. 2 form Michigan that i know of. God now how many others from Michigan. Looks like some of us may be working production for awhile. With new posting going up there may be more added.
Is there any MW's taking buyouts at LAP or KTP?
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Post by tcap89 on Oct 25, 2011 7:05:52 GMT -5
Millwright from Indy, on ILO for 11 mths. now. Plant closing 2012. 16 Millwrights on list to transfer to LAP. Good luck to all the trades transfering from Indy to LAP. I can imagine the people on ILO are ready to get back to work. At TCAP we do not have any trades on ILO. I hope all of us eventually get back into maintenance. |
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Post by tcap89 on Oct 25, 2011 7:17:26 GMT -5
Well it is looking like it may be slim pickings for the MW's. So far 3 from TCAP. 16 from indiana. 2 form Michigan that i know of. God now how many others from Michigan. Looks like some of us may be working production for awhile. With new posting going up there may be more added. Is there any MW's taking buyouts at LAP or KTP? I agree, it does look like slim pickings. I think our only hope is if they offer some of us re-skilling opportunities. I do not have a lot of faith that this will happen. There was re-skilling language in the last contract and from what I hear there were only a few people retrained. Our IUAW would have to go to bat for us and I guess I have lost faith that they will do anything to protect the trades. |
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Post by usmcm38a1 on Oct 25, 2011 16:11:09 GMT -5
Don't feel bad I am the Ind.Truck Repair coming and sounds like we are all in same boat pretty much as far as returning to our trades.Be nice if some people would consider taking the $100000 to retire and give someone else a chance to go back to their tools but that is about as lickeley as us going back to our trades or being reskilled.Since most of have only one choice to go anywhere and stay Ford and that was sign out of zone as production and hope.
Makes you really wonder about taking the $50000 to return to production ,sure that didn't just show up in the contract at exactly this time for no reason.What really sucks is some of spent years to get on apprenticeship went back to school got our journeman card only to be thrown back to production if we wanted to stay Ford and not get laid off.
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Post by tcap89 on Oct 26, 2011 7:36:10 GMT -5
Don't feel bad I am the Ind.Truck Repair coming and sounds like we are all in same boat pretty much as far as returning to our trades.Be nice if some people would consider taking the $100000 to retire and give someone else a chance to go back to their tools but that is about as lickeley as us going back to our trades or being reskilled.Since most of have only one choice to go anywhere and stay Ford and that was sign out of zone as production and hope. Makes you really wonder about taking the $50000 to return to production ,sure that didn't just show up in the contract at exactly this time for no reason.What really sucks is some of spent years to get on apprenticeship went back to school got our journeman card only to be thrown back to production if we wanted to stay Ford and not get laid off. I guess we all need to try to stay as positive as we can and make the best of whatever comes our way. If we knew then, what we know now, we would all have selected electrician for our apprenticeship. |
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Post by nvsked1 on Oct 26, 2011 13:06:05 GMT -5
Well it is looking like it may be slim pickings for the MW's. So far 3 from TCAP. 16 from indiana. 2 form Michigan that i know of. God now how many others from Michigan. Looks like some of us may be working production for awhile. With new posting going up there may be more added. Is there any MW's taking buyouts at LAP or KTP? Buyouts is like a game of liars poker, you never really know until the deadline. I've heard like seven millwright names mentioned at KTP but haven't spoke to any of the people. With that said, there is no guarantee they will replace any that retire especially when you factor in the pool workers. But I will say if we have all these trades going to production, then Ford should never need any contractors working in any ford location as there should be an available pool of trades to pull from in production....Regardless if it's only for temporary basis like shut down or project work |
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Post by tcap89 on Oct 26, 2011 18:51:34 GMT -5
"Buyouts is like a game of liars poker, you never really know until the deadline."
That is the best I have heard it described.
"With that said, there is no guarantee they will replace any that retire especially when you factor in the pool workers. But I will say if we have all these trades going to production, then Ford should never need any contractors working in any ford location as there should be an available pool of trades to pull from in production....Regardless if it's only for temporary basis like shut down or project work" [/quote]
I agree. I submitted several contract resolutions about replacing trades that retire and about having NO contractors working in any ford facility while we have trades on ILO or working production. Also for keeping our pay while working production to motivate ford to use us for trades work. The IUAW did absolutely nothing to help the trades in this contract.
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Post by kwlap on Oct 27, 2011 8:18:24 GMT -5
Will there be stamping at LAP?
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Post by ktpelec on Oct 27, 2011 8:43:13 GMT -5
The Stamping plant is at KTP, across town from LAP.
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Post by letsdothis50 on Dec 13, 2011 13:28:41 GMT -5
Does anyone know about the 50000 that skilled trades gets when down bidding to production? I tried asking my local but they seem to have no answers. Thanks
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Post by ktpelec on Dec 13, 2011 14:24:07 GMT -5
Does anyone know about the 50000 that skilled trades gets when down bidding to production? I tried asking my local but they seem to have no answers. Thanks Hit the "New Thread" button on the top right and post again...you'll get a lot more response. |
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Post by letsdothis50 on Dec 14, 2011 10:09:29 GMT -5
Does anyone know about the 50000 that skilled trades gets when down bidding to production? I tried asking my local but they seem to have no answers. Thanks Hit the "New Thread" button on the top right and post again...you'll get a lot more response. I don`t see the "new thread" button anywhere on the right. But thanks for the help  |
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