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Post by srnktp on Dec 19, 2014 10:00:25 GMT -5
I know that's right!!!!
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Post by JoePieper on Dec 19, 2014 18:30:39 GMT -5
I like turtles
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Post by machination on Dec 20, 2014 6:40:44 GMT -5
Hahaha this thread is a riot. Bargainers parking turns into gate 0 rules equate to racial discrimination. You people are fucking crazy lmao. Bravo!
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Post by JoePieper on Dec 20, 2014 6:54:30 GMT -5
Fuckin moronic really
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 20, 2014 8:54:16 GMT -5
Only a liberal could do such a thing!!
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Post by machination on Dec 20, 2014 16:43:09 GMT -5
Only a liberal could do such a thing!! Isn't the word liberal way overused? I agree with you in principle, but that fox news/right-wing radio shepherd is riding your sheep-ass all the way to the cliff, and i promise you he's gonna jump off right before you go over the side LMAO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAsplat!
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 20, 2014 20:37:41 GMT -5
Finally we agree on something!!!Lets drop the liberal and go with DUMBASS DEMOCRAT ..I'd rather jump off a cliff than abide by the liberal ways that are ruining american family's..
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Post by shortee on Dec 21, 2014 11:22:16 GMT -5
Well all I can say is for the ones so worried about what a MF is driving you must be a medical piece of shit walking around not doing a dam thing cause the ones that bust there ass on the line everyday earn every bit of there money and we are really under paid, FORD and UAW don't give a shit about any of us, there is no loyalty, so why give it back, buy what the fuck you want it's your money, and instead of the dumb asses worried about what the next person is driving take your lazy asses to the polls and vote for the right decision on the next contract instead of jump at bonus money they owe us anyway probably living check to check and need quick money, start saving so we can strike these bastards
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 21, 2014 13:03:14 GMT -5
I don't care if you buy a car made by the Taliban ..Just park the junky motherfucker in gate 0 !!! Like the fuckin rules state.I only worry about me and my family and if you think buying a foreign car somehow helps you financially go for it.At least when we buy Fords it increases our profits.Its all about rules!!!Follow or pay the price????20 years never voted yes for ANYTHING here so I vote every election or contract .As far as money I'm set I have 2 small businesses and I'm ready for a strike.Trust me if WE ARE SMART THIS CONTRACT SHOULD BE OURS!!!All the money they poured in this place I guarantee they don't want it to sit idle..
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Post by trinitus on Dec 21, 2014 13:17:06 GMT -5
OH HELL, now I gotta weigh in here. Rules are rules for one and all, if you don't follow rules then you get what you get end of story. I personally want to buy a non ord product myself but I don't want to walk an mile or two to my job on the line and then walk hat distance back to my ride at the end of the shift. Why anyone would do that is beyond me. If Ford ever tries to make black folk start parking at a certain gate then that is Dicrimination, parking a non ford at gate zero is not. You want to stop on Chamberlain to let someone off and pick someone up then you will face legal cost beyond your wildest dreams if you cause someone to lose their life because you don't want to follow the rules.
As for the Bargaining Commitee and Building Chair, I think it is somethinf they have worked out with the company. They are parking in gate two and not inside the fence, so that is fine with me. It is no different than when they had special parking for certain management personal in the regular lots. At gate six, most of those non ford product's belong to the security staff and not ford employee's, some of thm do belong to us.
Now for the final one, I could care less how many damned plants you have been at, this policy/rule is a company wide policy and ALL Ford plant's have this rule in place. This is not localised just to KTP or LAP but to all plant's. So move again and you will be surprised to see it there too. The last time I checked, Ford can make any rule they want and the Union can argue it but if the company has it in their head to do it the union can't stop it. Trust me there are plenty of rules of certain people who work there have to abide by while ohers don't have too. Don't believe me, then look at stock. Fork drivers have to wear those safety vest and seatbelt's but other's do not. As for medicals, there are quite a few that abuse the system but until the company and the union can come to an agreement on this, they will continue to do so. It just makes it harder for those that do get seriously hurt to get anything done.
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Post by saugerman on Dec 21, 2014 13:42:50 GMT -5
Finally we agree on something!!!Lets drop the liberal and go with DUMBASS DEMOCRAT ..I'd rather jump off a cliff than abide by the liberal ways that are ruining american family's.. you mispelled it....it's Dumb-A-Crap....if you neeed a definition...I will be more than happy to oblige
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Post by machination on Dec 21, 2014 17:45:26 GMT -5
Finally we agree on something!!!Lets drop the liberal and go with DUMBASS DEMOCRAT ..I'd rather jump off a cliff than abide by the liberal ways that are ruining american family's.. you mispelled it....it's Dumb-A-Crap....if you neeed a definition...I will be more than happy to oblige Dumb-a-crap, that's pretty clever. What is the repub version, Re-pubic-cons or some shit? How bout those In-deep-end-aunts? Or the Tee-potty? Hah this is fun
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Post by saugerman on Dec 21, 2014 18:38:11 GMT -5
Why don't you get on your knee's and take another pole\poll?
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Post by machination on Dec 21, 2014 20:55:04 GMT -5
Why don't you get on your knee's and take another pole\poll? That's better! Bravo!
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Post by JoePieper on Dec 23, 2014 11:19:46 GMT -5
Im a Conservative. PERIOD
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Post by TonyV on Dec 23, 2014 23:05:57 GMT -5
This topic of bargaining parking does not bother me in the least. What bothers me is a membership divided. It makes contract time so easy for the powers up north. Buckle up people.....stand together or fall as individuals....
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Post by korgthebarbarian on Mar 8, 2015 9:09:30 GMT -5
Wow! Some of ya really overdose on the koolaid don't ya? Ford does not pay you to be loyal. Loyalty is earned not paid for. How has fomoco earned your loyalty?
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Post by JoePieper on Mar 8, 2015 20:42:54 GMT -5
This topic of bargaining parking does not bother me in the least. What bothers me is a membership divided. It makes contract time so easy for the powers up north. Buckle up people.....stand together or fall as individuals.... I wholeheartedly concur Tony
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Post by srnktp on Mar 22, 2015 15:45:57 GMT -5
This topic of bargaining parking does not bother me in the least. What bothers me is a membership divided. It makes contract time so easy for the powers up north. Buckle up people.....stand together or fall as individuals.... I wholeheartedly concur Tony Gulp, Gulp, Gulp ?
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Post by JoePieper on Mar 23, 2015 1:40:22 GMT -5
What's that supposed to mean jackass
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Post by 01venomktp on May 7, 2015 23:19:12 GMT -5
OH HELL, now I gotta weigh in here. Rules are rules for one and all, if you don't follow rules then you get what you get end of story. I personally want to buy a non ord product myself but I don't want to walk an mile or two to my job on the line and then walk hat distance back to my ride at the end of the shift. Why anyone would do that is beyond me. If Ford ever tries to make black folk start parking at a certain gate then that is Dicrimination, parking a non ford at gate zero is not. You want to stop on Chamberlain to let someone off and pick someone up then you will face legal cost beyond your wildest dreams if you cause someone to lose their life because you don't want to follow the rules. As for the Bargaining Commitee and Building Chair, I think it is somethinf they have worked out with the company. They are parking in gate two and not inside the fence, so that is fine with me. It is no different than when they had special parking for certain management personal in the regular lots. At gate six, most of those non ford product's belong to the security staff and not ford employee's, some of thm do belong to us. Now for the final one, I could care less how many damned plants you have been at, this policy/rule is a company wide policy and ALL Ford plant's have this rule in place. This is not localised just to KTP or LAP but to all plant's. So move again and you will be surprised to see it there too. The last time I checked, Ford can make any rule they want and the Union can argue it but if the company has it in their head to do it the union can't stop it. Trust me there are plenty of rules of certain people who work there have to abide by while ohers don't have too. Don't believe me, then look at stock. Fork drivers have to wear those safety vest and seatbelt's but other's do not. As for medicals, there are quite a few that abuse the system but until the company and the union can come to an agreement on this, they will continue to do so. It just makes it harder for those that do get seriously hurt to get anything done. This is not Ford Motor Company policy. This is an issue that can be negotiated locally. I came from another Ford plant and it was negotiated that any UAW american made or Ford owned non Ford vehicle could park anywhere. The foreign vehicles had there place in the lot furthest from the main entrances. This was strictly enforced and worked well because as I recall there were not a lot of foreign vehicles.
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Post by thisplacesux on May 8, 2015 0:45:04 GMT -5
Fuck it! I'm gonna buy a Honda motorcycle (direct competitor of FoMoCo BTW) and park it right next to the gate in its reserved spot. If my Ford breaks down and my neighbor loans me his Honda car I have to park at gate zero cause it has 4 wheels instead of two. That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard in my life. I've had several people (who don't work for Ford) ask me if its true that employees that don't drive a Ford product have to park in a separate lot. It makes the UAW and Ford look petty honestly. Like the vehicles don't stand on their own merit, we have to be forced to drive them. I drive a Ford to work everyday and I feel that for the money it's as good as any car out there. That being said I inherited a Chevy truck from my dad when he passed away and I'm sure if I drove it in here some asshat would give me shit about I should trade it in on a new $1,000/mo Ford truck because it benefits his profit sharing by $.02. My point is: we ain't had a raise since two presidents ago, most of us can't afford a new car much less a truck. How does it help Ford's bottom line when someone buys a used Ford? If you're buying new I get that, but used? Or if you're driving a loaner etc??
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