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Post by rockyt on May 19, 2015 11:13:24 GMT -5
Word is that "leadership" agreed for us to work 10 hours today instead of the usual 8 on Election Day. However they surveyed to see how many planned to sign out to go vote. So we will see.
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Post by rockyt on May 19, 2015 11:20:59 GMT -5
I bet if there was a wet/dry vote on the ballot today that our "leadership" would have made sure we were off in time to vote. LOL
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Post by justaworker on May 19, 2015 13:19:49 GMT -5
10 hours puts you out of there at 4:30. Polls close at 6:00..What's the issue?
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Post by w84me on May 19, 2015 13:36:24 GMT -5
10 hours puts you out of there at 4:30. Polls close at 6:00..What's the issue? obviously don't drive on the gene Snyder |
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Post by roaddog on May 19, 2015 13:45:21 GMT -5
The leadership will agree to anything the company wants, We all know that
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Post by lap65 on May 19, 2015 14:39:06 GMT -5
My memory isn't what it used to be I don't ever remember going 8 hours fora primary electioN
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Post by lap65 on May 19, 2015 14:40:09 GMT -5
Several walked off the lIne in trim though so we shall see what happens
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Post by justaworker on May 19, 2015 17:37:11 GMT -5
Several walked off the lIne in trim though so we shall see what happens Ballsy move, let me know what happens. |
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Post by rockyt on May 20, 2015 4:34:07 GMT -5
10 hours puts you out of there at 4:30. Polls close at 6:00..What's the issue? There are many issues: from people who live more than 90 minutes, childcare, long lines at polls, polls running out of ballots, etc. However the main issue is that state law requires employers to allow you a minimum of 4 hours to cast your vote. But the big picture is that it's another example of the Union not looking out for their people. |
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Post by justaworker on May 20, 2015 5:49:07 GMT -5
10 hours puts you out of there at 4:30. Polls close at 6:00..What's the issue? There are many issues: from people who live more than 90 minutes, childcare, long lines at polls, polls running out of ballots, etc. However the main issue is that state law requires employers to allow you a minimum of 4 hours to cast your vote. But the big picture is that it's another example of the Union not looking out for their people. According to what's been posted elsewhere, KY. State law only requires time off to vote if the employee notifies their employer one day in advance that they have to leave work in order to go vote. So, if on Monday you notified ford that you would be leaving early to vote, then you could have left at 2:00 with no repercussions. If you didn't notify ford in advance, then be thankful that our Union fought to get you out at 9.5 to give you a little extra time. |
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Post by rockyt on May 20, 2015 7:15:51 GMT -5
Apparently you are just clueless or drink a lot of Koolaid, because again you are missing the point. In the past the union has requested the time to vote on our behalf, so most people were not aware they needed to ask on Monday. Had the union done their job and not given in to the companies desire for more production, we would have only been scheduled 8 hours. It has nothing to do with if you had enough time to vote or if you even voted at all. It is about the union giving in to the company and the steady erosion of our rights and benefits.
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Post by justaworker on May 20, 2015 14:27:22 GMT -5
None of your rights or benefits were eroded. The fact is, you all got out an hour and twelve minutes early. The union fought for that, Ford didn't do it out of the kindness of their own heart. If anybody is upset about not being able to vote, that's on them. But it appears some people are just looking for any reason to bitch.
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Post by nra4life on May 20, 2015 14:41:14 GMT -5
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Post by justaworker on May 20, 2015 17:22:19 GMT -5
Hopefully, next time everybod goes to Laborthe day before and notifies them of their intent to leave early to vote. |
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Post by rockyt on May 20, 2015 19:43:58 GMT -5
If you don't think that any of our rights have been violated and that our benefits haven't eroded over the last decade (or last year for that matter) then you must be drinking way too much of the koolaid that the union leadership is passing out!
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Post by justaworker on May 20, 2015 19:49:11 GMT -5
So are you complaining about all the give backs??? Or not getting to leave as early as you would have liked yesterday? Two separate issues.
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Post by rockyt on May 20, 2015 20:01:29 GMT -5
Not really. It's just another example of the union leadership giving in to management and not standing up for their people. Back in the day, the committeemen would have been the ones shutting the line down and leading the troupes out the door. You see the UAW and the employees are all to scared to stand up to management and despite the leadership siding with the company and telling people why the company shouldn't have to comply with state many were threatening to leave early but the company called their bluff and most blinked. Sad, sad day and a bad omen for September.
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Post by justaworker on May 20, 2015 20:41:00 GMT -5
On the broader scale, I totally agree with you. Heck, who wouldn't? But Tuesday really doesn't apply to that. Like I said earlier, the fact is they let you all leave over an hour early. They didn't have to do that, the union fought for that.
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Post by rockyt on May 21, 2015 4:36:30 GMT -5
Your line of thinking shows why we keep losing benefits. I guess we should be glad we still get some paid holidays because the company doesn't have to pay us for holidays., many don't. We used to get Easter Monday off, but at least the Union fought to get us Easter off. It's less than we had, but I guess they fought for it. See when they fight for you to get less than you had, did they really fight for you? I'm not happy with that and you shouldn't be either. Yes we should be grateful for what we have but fight for more, not less! We used to go 8 hours on election day (even Hoosier Election Day) but now they fought for us to go 9.5. Good work guys, you really showed them!
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Post by justaworker on May 21, 2015 18:26:43 GMT -5
Pretty easy to go short on a primary election day, when people aren't buying explorers and we're laid off a week every month. Can't really compare now to then.
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Post by lappaintql on May 22, 2015 5:40:08 GMT -5
In my 21+ years here at LAP, we never got out early for Primary Elections. Federal Elections& State Elections yes, but not for primary elections.
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Post by lap65 on May 22, 2015 9:34:39 GMT -5
22 years & I don't remember it happening either.
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Post by justaworker on May 22, 2015 14:38:11 GMT -5
22 years & I don't remember it happening either. Yeah, my memory is not worth a Damn but I don't remember it either. Off year general elections we would go 8. But I never remember going short for primary elections. |
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Post by rockyt on May 22, 2015 14:59:08 GMT -5
Well I guess we are remembering things differently then, because I can remember last May getting off in 8 hrs back in paint for the primary. I can also remember that we used to go 8 on Hoosier election day, which is earlier in May than Kentucky's primary (Due to the Derby I assume) Also when I asked my committeeman about it this past week, he said "We don't get that anymore", which would imply that we used to. However as I age and my memory begins to fade, I could just be fondly remembering the good old days (Back when we had a UAW with some teeth) differently.
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