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Post by enginedog on Nov 9, 2015 15:14:12 GMT -5
I believe our union has sunk to a new low make us come in to vote in the middle of a holiday weekend. Not to mention leaving the deer stand to come vote. I also need to mention that I saw on Facebook that if you don't show up to vote it's an automatic YES vote. I do not believe that but thought I would include in my post.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Nov 9, 2015 16:43:04 GMT -5
Unless I'm tagged out, I guess my vote won't be cast, which they will be ecstatic about. And absent votes are NOT yes votes, just to clarify. But until a 3rd party conducts the vote, who knows?
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Post by ktp99 on Nov 9, 2015 16:48:15 GMT -5
I'm not happy about going to the fairgrounds to vote on sunday either! This is about my future, so I will vote! If you don't vote, nobody's fault but your own.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Nov 9, 2015 17:01:20 GMT -5
I will make the trip back to vote... But it sucks for sure.
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Post by remember1976 on Nov 9, 2015 17:04:09 GMT -5
I... need to mention that I saw on Facebook that if you don't show up to vote it's an automatic YES vote. Not true. Unless I'm tagged out, I guess my vote won't be cast.... Why am I not surprised? |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 9, 2015 19:22:40 GMT -5
What about us Pitaful fucks that will be working dayshift c crew Sunday?  |
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Post by remember1976 on Nov 9, 2015 20:29:19 GMT -5
Jeebus!
Has anyone on this board seen an official announcement from UAW Local 862 about the date, time and location of the ratification vote?
No? Then why all the sturm und drang?
Seriously... sometimes you people really crack me up!
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Nov 9, 2015 20:41:52 GMT -5
I would love to know... Hoping for Tuesday/Wednesday vote.
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Post by enginedog on Nov 9, 2015 22:23:20 GMT -5
Was told by someone on the election committee that it would be Sunday from 12 - 9pm
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Post by caprudedawg on Nov 9, 2015 23:04:35 GMT -5
Heard from a friend who has a friend that knows another friend that's on the fair board and they are saying parking goes up to $15 starting Sunday.
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Nov 9, 2015 23:08:16 GMT -5
Never thought getting $10,000 could feel like a downer
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Nov 10, 2015 6:36:34 GMT -5
If someone was giving me $10,000 tax free, different story...but $10,000 taxed at a high rate is laughable to accept 2 raises that don't even keep up with inflation. Our buying power was greater in 2003 than it is today, that's the truth. We are losing, plain and simple.
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Post by THAT GIRL on Nov 10, 2015 7:02:00 GMT -5
I totally agree Scott what a joke. Give me 10,000 after taxes and let's talk. Thank Mr.Esk for nothing, what a joke. My vote is No
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Post by ktpb1otch on Nov 10, 2015 13:50:02 GMT -5
So first of many things, we are suppose to feel sorry for C crew to have to vote on a Sunday yet no care about a Tuesday/Wednesday vote for the A/B crew people? Come on how is that fair for umm what did you say Pitufal us??!! Ignorant! How do you expect to accomodate 8,000 people for a Q&A and a vote? Whats your suggestion and did you show up at the union meeting today to suggest it? And you there that insulted Mr Esk I bet u didnt either to say crap to him and u wont show up to the vote to say what you have the balls to say on a computer to him. People on here kill me, this is only a vote that will affect the next 4 years of your life. It affects your pay, which affords you your deer stand and gas to live an hour away, and oh yeah its a holiday weekend I have to come vote-whiiine its because you have a contract and a union that you have a holiday weekend in the first place. Im sure you will come out of your house for less. But go ahead and stay home and complain while you give up your right to vote yes or no and remember all the other places you may have worked before Ford that you had no say in anything and now you do but all you wanna do is complain about its on a Sunday, its a holiday weekend, its too far. Thats the sad thing though instead of discussing the pros and cons of the contract its about where and when. Do all of us who are pro union a favor and just quit and go work at WalMart where you can see your C crew buddies picking up beer and hunting gear but cant get on the Xway and go vote. Pathetic. Keep talking like this and sooner or later when we go right to work state and you dont have a union to blame evetything on, see where you are at then. Remember Scott and your floor reps arent just the union YOU are the union. So close your computer or turn your phone off and go to a meeting and say what you do on here and get real answers and not just a bunch of other belly achers validating your tears.
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thedogg"93
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I hate you kyle , you R-tard !
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Post by thedogg"93 on Nov 10, 2015 13:54:44 GMT -5
Changing the vote to November 17 is what we are hearing!
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I hate you kyle , you R-tard !
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Post by thedogg"93 on Nov 10, 2015 13:56:30 GMT -5
I hope we turn out in big numbers and flush this turd !
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Post by TonyV on Nov 10, 2015 14:04:03 GMT -5
Sunday 12- 9 at fairgrounds for informational meeting. Voting will take place now at the union halls, Tuesday the 17th
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Post by TonyV on Nov 10, 2015 14:23:26 GMT -5
New bulletins will be coming around this week for everyone to see the changes. I'll post them when I receive them.
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Post by lazyeye on Nov 10, 2015 14:31:01 GMT -5
According to Brian Kessenger Todd Dunn is paying for parking at Fairgrounds. So we should all show up and take a big bite out of his wallet. This is a crap deal and needs to be flushed.
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I hate you kyle , you R-tard !
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Post by thedogg"93 on Nov 10, 2015 14:54:33 GMT -5
Todd must know somebody on the fairgrounds board !
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Post by Bcrew4life on Nov 10, 2015 15:17:37 GMT -5
Sunday 12- 9 at fairgrounds for informational meeting. Voting will take place now at the union halls, Tuesday the 17th The new bulletin says voting will take place ONLY at the Chamberlain Ln. union hall on Tuesday Nov 17th. That will guarantee a low turn out for LAP A & B crew brothers & sisters, especially B crew. I guess the IUAW is afraid of a big turn out! |
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Post by rockyt on Nov 10, 2015 15:23:19 GMT -5
According to Brian Kessenger Todd Dunn is paying for parking at Fairgrounds. So we should all show up and take a big bite out of his wallet. This is a crap deal and needs to be flushed. Todd is paying for parking just like Andre McGhee paid for hookers.........with somebody else's money. Most likely ours! |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 10, 2015 15:40:57 GMT -5
So first of many things, we are suppose to feel sorry for C crew to have to vote on a Sunday yet no care about a Tuesday/Wednesday vote for the A/B crew people? Come on how is that fair for umm what did you say Pitufal us??!! Ignorant! How do you expect to accomodate 8,000 people for a Q&A and a vote? Whats your suggestion and did you show up at the union meeting today to suggest it? And you there that insulted Mr Esk I bet u didnt either to say crap to him and u wont show up to the vote to say what you have the balls to say on a computer to him. People on here kill me, this is only a vote that will affect the next 4 years of your life. It affects your pay, which affords you your deer stand and gas to live an hour away, and oh yeah its a holiday weekend I have to come vote-whiiine its because you have a contract and a union that you have a holiday weekend in the first place. Im sure you will come out of your house for less. But go ahead and stay home and complain while you give up your right to vote yes or no and remember all the other places you may have worked before Ford that you had no say in anything and now you do but all you wanna do is complain about its on a Sunday, its a holiday weekend, its too far. Thats the sad thing though instead of discussing the pros and cons of the contract its about where and when. Do all of us who are pro union a favor and just quit and go work at WalMart where you can see your C crew buddies picking up beer and hunting gear but cant get on the Xway and go vote. Pathetic. Keep talking like this and sooner or later when we go right to work state and you dont have a union to blame evetything on, see where you are at then. Remember Scott and your floor reps arent just the union YOU are the union. So close your computer or turn your phone off and go to a meeting and say what you do on here and get real answers and not just a bunch of other belly achers validating your tears. When you get off your knees at the union office read this...Why did you feel the need to become a new member on here???If you can't stand all the griping??Will the real Dumbass please stand up..As for the Pitaful CCREW remark ,that was in a joking manor.That being said if we worked till 530 then had to go all the way to Freedom Hall to vote that would suck..But if we voted a block away at OUR union hall that would be great ..Now you get it????Now that's ignorant.. |
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Nov 10, 2015 16:09:10 GMT -5
Sunday 12- 9 at fairgrounds for informational meeting. Voting will take place now at the union halls, Tuesday the 17th The new bulletin says voting will take place ONLY at the Chamberlain Ln. union hall on Tuesday Nov 17th. That will guarantee a low turn out for LAP A & B crew brothers & sisters, especially B crew. I guess the IUAW is afraid of a big turn out! Voting will be held at BOTH union halls. |
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Post by Ktp1989 on Nov 10, 2015 16:12:37 GMT -5
Informational meeting on Sunday from 12-9...voting at both union halls Tuesday 4am-10pm.
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Post by TonyV on Nov 10, 2015 16:21:54 GMT -5
Sunday 12- 9 at fairgrounds for informational meeting. Voting will take place now at the union halls, Tuesday the 17th The new bulletin says voting will take place ONLY at the Chamberlain Ln. union hall on Tuesday Nov 17th. That will guarantee a low turn out for LAP A & B crew brothers & sisters, especially B crew. I guess the IUAW is afraid of a big turn out! Only the KTP Bulletin has been sent to us to post. When we receive the LAP revised notice it will be posted |
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Post by THAT GIRL on Nov 10, 2015 17:40:14 GMT -5
Voting on the national contract will be at both halls. KTP members will vote on there local contract also at that time. Sunday is just a highlight reading at the Fairgrounds. Whoever said not voting is an automatic yes vote is a dumb ass.
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Post by machination on Nov 10, 2015 18:57:13 GMT -5
So first of many things, we are suppose to feel sorry for C crew to have to vote on a Sunday yet no care about a Tuesday/Wednesday vote for the A/B crew people? Come on how is that fair for umm what did you say Pitufal us??!! Ignorant! How do you expect to accomodate 8,000 people for a Q&A and a vote? Whats your suggestion and did you show up at the union meeting today to suggest it? And you there that insulted Mr Esk I bet u didnt either to say crap to him and u wont show up to the vote to say what you have the balls to say on a computer to him. People on here kill me, this is only a vote that will affect the next 4 years of your life. It affects your pay, which affords you your deer stand and gas to live an hour away, and oh yeah its a holiday weekend I have to come vote-whiiine its because you have a contract and a union that you have a holiday weekend in the first place. Im sure you will come out of your house for less. But go ahead and stay home and complain while you give up your right to vote yes or no and remember all the other places you may have worked before Ford that you had no say in anything and now you do but all you wanna do is complain about its on a Sunday, its a holiday weekend, its too far. Thats the sad thing though instead of discussing the pros and cons of the contract its about where and when. Do all of us who are pro union a favor and just quit and go work at WalMart where you can see your C crew buddies picking up beer and hunting gear but cant get on the Xway and go vote. Pathetic. Keep talking like this and sooner or later when we go right to work state and you dont have a union to blame evetything on, see where you are at then. Remember Scott and your floor reps arent just the union YOU are the union. So close your computer or turn your phone off and go to a meeting and say what you do on here and get real answers and not just a bunch of other belly achers validating your tears. When you get off your knees at the union office read this...Why did you feel the need to become a new member on here???If you can't stand all the griping??Will the real Dumbass please stand up..As for the Pitaful CCREW remark ,that was in a joking manor.That being said if we worked till 530 then had to go all the way to Freedom Hall to vote that would suck..But if we voted a block away at OUR union hall that would be great ..Now you get it????Now that's ignorant.. |
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Post by richktp1 on Nov 11, 2015 6:06:54 GMT -5
"The Ford team delivered an outstanding quarter with record third quarter profit, best quarter >>>ever<<< for North America, higher wholesales, higher revenue, higher market share and improved margin. We are delivering a breakthrough year.”
Mark Fields
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Nov 11, 2015 6:10:32 GMT -5
And that will continue to go up since it will take 8 years to reach full pay, no more legacy costs in regards to paying a monthly stipend until death, no future raises for retirees, etc... Healthcare is their next hurdle in which we will eat...
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