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Post by lapwasktp on Dec 8, 2015 22:24:46 GMT -5
Wow, So glad we cleaned up on this last Contract. The Wall Street Journal projects North America will break an All Time Sales Record this year, last set in 2000... Which should mean all time profits for Automakers.. Mark Fields in his conference call said our Contract didn't hurt the Company and it didn't even keep up with inflation over the next 4 years.. Now that's some Negotiating.. I guess we will do a little better in 2019 when the Market takes a downturn as Projected... We have them just where we want them !!!
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Post by turk182 on Dec 10, 2015 10:59:28 GMT -5
all time record sales but still the iuaw could'nt get them to honor their agreement to return everything from the '07 concessions? nice job i.u.a.w! you've now removed all doubt about who's side your on.i bet it was a record breaking profit year for you guy's also.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 10, 2015 19:42:51 GMT -5
And their answer will be"you voted".The membership has spoken...Haha...
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Post by turk182 on Dec 10, 2015 23:27:28 GMT -5
i don't think it's possible to have an honest election.
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Post by pmooret on Dec 11, 2015 5:03:36 GMT -5
Not as long as they have ballot boxes they can stuff so that the vote is always 51% / 49%.
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Post by rc38 on Dec 11, 2015 8:31:02 GMT -5
all time record sales but still the iuaw could'nt get them to honor their agreement to return everything from the '07 concessions? nice job i.u.a.w! you've now removed all doubt about who's side your on.i bet it was a record breaking profit year for you guy's also. Yes the Iuaw had a record year they just pulled 3 union dues out of you checks this month so far. I expect another on the back pay check. Over $200 this month so far. |
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Post by machination on Dec 11, 2015 16:27:05 GMT -5
Another fine enlightening thread for the ingrate bullshit mill. Hey just be thankful the profit sharing cap was REMOVED. Oh wait I forgot, we aren't supposed to be thankful for anything. Funny how all of you still work here, when you could obviously be so much more successful working somewhere else.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 11, 2015 16:36:36 GMT -5
Another fine enlightening thread for the ingrate bullshit mill. Hey just be thankful the profit sharing cap was REMOVED. Oh wait I forgot, we aren't supposed to be thankful for anything. Funny how all of you still work here, when you could obviously be so much more successful working somewhere else. So you think we will get above what the cap was?They removed it because we will never reach it...I think it's supposed to look like a gain?I guess for someone dumb enough to believe it? |
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Post by machination on Dec 11, 2015 17:15:35 GMT -5
Another fine enlightening thread for the ingrate bullshit mill. Hey just be thankful the profit sharing cap was REMOVED. Oh wait I forgot, we aren't supposed to be thankful for anything. Funny how all of you still work here, when you could obviously be so much more successful working somewhere else. So you think we will get above what the cap was?They removed it because we will never reach it...I think it's supposed to look like a gain?I guess for someone dumb enough to believe it? The reason why you guys see bullshit everywhere you look is because there's a thick film of it encrusted over your eyeballs. It's like cataracts, made of shit. You cant remove it safely until you develop grown up hands. Otherwise, you might accidentally pluck your whole fucking eyeball out. Good luck with that. |
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Post by remember1976 on Dec 11, 2015 18:05:48 GMT -5
Am I supposed to be resentful and angry that Ford Motor Company is doing very well and so I will see a very large profit sharing check?
The people who post to this board never fail to amaze and astound.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 11, 2015 18:37:56 GMT -5
So you think we will get above what the cap was?They removed it because we will never reach it...I think it's supposed to look like a gain?I guess for someone dumb enough to believe it? The reason why you guys see bullshit everywhere you look is because there's a thick film of it encrusted over your eyeballs. It's like cataracts, made of shit. You cant remove it safely until you develop grown up hands. Otherwise, you might accidentally pluck your whole fucking eyeball out. Good luck with that. Maybe so,,but has the cap ever been reached in your career here??No ..Therefore why start or end a cap????Never needed it..Maybe I have shit on my eyes ,but you my friend have shit for brains.. |
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Post by machination on Dec 11, 2015 19:04:49 GMT -5
The reason why you guys see bullshit everywhere you look is because there's a thick film of it encrusted over your eyeballs. It's like cataracts, made of shit. You cant remove it safely until you develop grown up hands. Otherwise, you might accidentally pluck your whole fucking eyeball out. Good luck with that. Maybe so,,but has the cap ever been reached in your career here??No ..Therefore why start or end a cap????Never needed it..Maybe I have shit on my eyes ,but you my friend have shit for brains.. Yeah and when there was a cap you idiots whined about it keeping us from getting more, then they remove the cap and you still whine about how that's somehow fucking you too. Wanted raises, got them, still fucking whining. 2nd tier gone, still fucking whining. Got stuff back like holiday, and dependent tuition, still WAA WAA WAA! Biggest bunch of goddamn crybaby whiny ass titty-babies I've EVER, EVER seen in my entire life. You people are an absolute disgrace. Too stupid to see clearly and too weak and pussified to not be pathetic whiny asses. Put that in your collective pipes and smoke it ladies... |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 11, 2015 19:08:24 GMT -5
Am I supposed to be resentful and angry that Ford Motor Company is doing very well and so I will see a very large profit sharing check? The people who post to this board never fail to amaze and astound. How did you get resentment from his comment?I think they're just stating how they feel about the contract..Which I would say is how the MAJORITY of us feel (at least that's what the vote showed)..But I do like a decent profit sharing check tho.. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 11, 2015 19:11:40 GMT -5
Maybe so,,but has the cap ever been reached in your career here??No ..Therefore why start or end a cap????Never needed it..Maybe I have shit on my eyes ,but you my friend have shit for brains.. Yeah and when there was a cap you idiots whined about it keeping us from getting more, then they remove the cap and you still whine about how that's somehow fucking you too. Wanted raises, got them, still fucking whining. 2nd tier gone, still fucking whining. Got stuff back like holiday, and dependent tuition, still WAA WAA WAA! Biggest bunch of goddamn crybaby whiny ass titty-babies I've EVER, EVER seen in my entire life. You people are an absolute disgrace. Too stupid to see clearly and too weak and pussified to not be pathetic whiny asses. Put that in your collective pipes and smoke it ladies... Yep and pussies like you are the minority at ktp and lap..Fact..Remove a cap that was never needed?Two tier gone??Funny the kid on my team makes less than me?Raises???less than .10 a year when contract is over!!Yeehaw !!!I bet you've never stood up and fought a job here.Prolly just did it like the little yes man bitch you are..You're the disgrace!And you call yourself a union man..Ha! |
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Post by machination on Dec 11, 2015 19:42:48 GMT -5
Yeah and when there was a cap you idiots whined about it keeping us from getting more, then they remove the cap and you still whine about how that's somehow fucking you too. Wanted raises, got them, still fucking whining. 2nd tier gone, still fucking whining. Got stuff back like holiday, and dependent tuition, still WAA WAA WAA! Biggest bunch of goddamn crybaby whiny ass titty-babies I've EVER, EVER seen in my entire life. You people are an absolute disgrace. Too stupid to see clearly and too weak and pussified to not be pathetic whiny asses. Put that in your collective pipes and smoke it ladies... Yep and pussies like you are the minority at ktp and lap..Fact..Remove a cap that was never needed?Two tier gone??Funny the kid on my team makes less than me?Raises???less than .10 a year when contract is over!!Yeehaw !!!I bet you've never stood up and fought a job here.Prolly just did it like the little yes man bitch you are..You're the disgrace!And you call yourself a union man..Ha! Second tier IS GONE you imbecile. Newer people NEVER did make as much as older workers, and neither did we until we got more time in. You didn't hire in making as much as veteran assemblers until years later. You were HERE and experienced it yourself and it WAS NOT second tier then, it was a PROGRESSION just like now but with a longer term. Still not 2 tier anymore. The only one of us with shit for brains is undeniably absolutely, you. In fact, you're out of your damn mind to pretend that 2 tier isn't gone. Did we work under 2 tier when we hired in? No. But i made less than the 20 year assembler next to me. You need to go back to kindergarten son and learn the difference between truth and lies. And you misleading new workers with your poisonous dishonest bs is especially disgusting. LOL |
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Post by lapwasktp on Dec 11, 2015 19:50:55 GMT -5
Machination alias Company Man.. A .87 cent raise in 10 years is not exactly Robbing the Farm.. Again, Mark Field our CEO, if your paying attention is laughing so hard he can't catch his breath... He said this Contract didn't even keep the North American Employees up with INFLATION ( Wall Street Journal).. A company making over 30 BILLION in AFTER TAX PROFITS in NORTH AMERICA the Last 5 years is able to get a .87 cent raise passed on to their Employees along with a few ONE Time FIXED bonuses.. HOME RUN .. Buy a Calculator.. You've been duped.. Greatful but very disappointed... I'm so glad I have a Job... With your Math skills and reasoning ablilties I'm sure you are as well...
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 11, 2015 21:16:31 GMT -5
Yep and pussies like you are the minority at ktp and lap..Fact..Remove a cap that was never needed?Two tier gone??Funny the kid on my team makes less than me?Raises???less than .10 a year when contract is over!!Yeehaw !!!I bet you've never stood up and fought a job here.Prolly just did it like the little yes man bitch you are..You're the disgrace!And you call yourself a union man..Ha! Second tier IS GONE you imbecile. Newer people NEVER did make as much as older workers, and neither did we until we got more time in. You didn't hire in making as much as veteran assemblers until years later. You were HERE and experienced it yourself and it WAS NOT second tier then, it was a PROGRESSION just like now but with a longer term. Still not 2 tier anymore. The only one of us with shit for brains is undeniably absolutely, you. In fact, you're out of your damn mind to pretend that 2 tier isn't gone. Did we work under 2 tier when we hired in? No. But i made less than the 20 year assembler next to me. You need to go back to kindergarten son and learn the difference between truth and lies. And you misleading new workers with your poisonous dishonest bs is especially disgusting. LOL 3 years motherfucker,....Not 4,5,or next contract!!!Two tiers is alive and well dumbfucker!!!!Your whole being disgust me.You act like all your post are the final word and you're always Right?Fuck that and Fuck you.Ill write whatever I want on here until Scot kicks me off!! Not you bitch..You're nothing to me..You don't tell me what's right or wrong ..Go try some off that shit with the other Yes voters... |
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Post by justaworker on Dec 11, 2015 22:37:32 GMT -5
There are alot of things to bitch and whine about. I spend much of my work week doing just that. But tiers isn't one of them. Tiers are gone. That's not really disputable.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 11, 2015 23:14:22 GMT -5
There are alot of things to bitch and whine about. I spend much of my work week doing just that. But tiers isn't one of them. Tiers are gone. That's not really disputable. Ok we can call it in progression...8 yrs...You win.. |
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Post by justaworker on Dec 12, 2015 1:56:34 GMT -5
There are alot of things to bitch and whine about. I spend much of my work week doing just that. But tiers isn't one of them. Tiers are gone. That's not really disputable. Ok we can call it in progression...8 yrs...You win.. We've always had in progression, used to be shorter. But like most other things associated to our job.... It's gotten worse. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 12, 2015 5:39:44 GMT -5
Ok we can call it in progression...8 yrs...You win.. We've always had in progression, used to be shorter. But like most other things associated to our job.... It's gotten worse. I know I've been here 20 yrs..BUT it was 3 yrs for sure,Not 8 on another contract..But I'm done really don't care..I make top pay fuck it. |
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Post by machination on Dec 12, 2015 6:52:01 GMT -5
Second tier IS GONE you imbecile. Newer people NEVER did make as much as older workers, and neither did we until we got more time in. You didn't hire in making as much as veteran assemblers until years later. You were HERE and experienced it yourself and it WAS NOT second tier then, it was a PROGRESSION just like now but with a longer term. Still not 2 tier anymore. The only one of us with shit for brains is undeniably absolutely, you. In fact, you're out of your damn mind to pretend that 2 tier isn't gone. Did we work under 2 tier when we hired in? No. But i made less than the 20 year assembler next to me. You need to go back to kindergarten son and learn the difference between truth and lies. And you misleading new workers with your poisonous dishonest bs is especially disgusting. LOL 3 years motherfucker,....Not 4,5,or next contract!!!Two tiers is alive and well dumbfucker!!!!Your whole being disgust me.You act like all your post are the final word and you're always Right?Fuck that and Fuck you.Ill write whatever I want on here until Scot kicks me off!! Not you bitch..You're nothing to me..You don't tell me what's right or wrong ..Go try some off that shit with the other Yes voters... Your comments make me LOL so fucking hard. Unless you hired in exactly at midnight on September 14th of 1993 or 1996 you didn't reach top pay in the old progression until the second contract after you hired in either you numbskull. LOtothefuckingL!!!! |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 12, 2015 7:11:24 GMT -5
I know you dumb fuck!!!Different contract But (3) yrs guaranteed!!!!Nit different contracts and (8) yrs MAYBE in the FUCKING FUTURE..Damn you're fucking blind....You gotta be a dumb fuck liberal that only understands items in THEIR OWN WAY...
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Post by machination on Dec 12, 2015 8:00:02 GMT -5
I know you dumb fuck!!!Different contract But (3) yrs guaranteed!!!!Nit different contracts and (8) yrs MAYBE in the FUCKING FUTURE..Damn you're fucking blind....You gotta be a dumb fuck liberal that only understands items in THEIR OWN WAY... ROID RAGE!!!! LMAO! Not guaranteed because it was in a different contract, just like NOW. RAGE more while I destroy your bullshit with truth. While I decimate your dark caustic nonsense with light and clarity. RAGE on o' master of bullshit! LOL |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 12, 2015 8:32:51 GMT -5
I know you dumb fuck!!!Different contract But (3) yrs guaranteed!!!!Nit different contracts and (8) yrs MAYBE in the FUCKING FUTURE..Damn you're fucking blind....You gotta be a dumb fuck liberal that only understands items in THEIR OWN WAY... ROID RAGE!!!! LMAO! Not guaranteed because it was in a different contract, just like NOW. RAGE more while I destroy your bullshit with truth. While I decimate your dark caustic nonsense with light and clarity. RAGE on o' master of bullshit! LOL The only truth is (3) yrs VS (8) yrs..Time will tell..That's the truth...!!!! |
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Post by machination on Dec 12, 2015 8:42:59 GMT -5
ROID RAGE!!!! LMAO! Not guaranteed because it was in a different contract, just like NOW. RAGE more while I destroy your bullshit with truth. While I decimate your dark caustic nonsense with light and clarity. RAGE on o' master of bullshit! LOL The only truth is (3) yrs VS (8) yrs..Time will tell..That's the truth...!!!! And after our 3 years we were only making around $22/hour. It took us about 8 years or more to reach $28/hour. If you were a sith from star wars and you pressed the button on your lightsaber a 3 foot long turd would ooze out of it, and people would say "Oh no here comes Darth Bullshit with his turdsaber!" LMAO |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 12, 2015 8:52:51 GMT -5
Yep your right after 3 years we were at TOP PAY..Were as its takes 8 years now????Supposedly????All your references to Sci-fi makes me understand you a lot better..You're outta touch with the real world ..This isn't a video game.Put the bong down..And joystick
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Post by machination on Dec 12, 2015 9:00:37 GMT -5
Yep your right after 3 years we were at TOP PAY..Were as its takes 8 years now????Supposedly????All your references to Sci-fi makes me understand you a lot better..You're outta touch with the real world ..This isn't a video game.Put the bong down..And joystick It was a movie you doofus! LOL you just can't get anything right Darth Bullshit! LMAO You should change your name to that, or maybe ex-Honestman. LOL |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 12, 2015 9:05:21 GMT -5
Like it didn't know it was a movie you fucking moron...ROIDRAGE ,destroy dark caustic bs,that's the refs..you use...Truth 3 yrs vs 8 yrs ..Supposedly
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Post by machination on Dec 12, 2015 9:07:36 GMT -5
Like it didn't know it was a movie you fucking moron...Truth 3 yrs vs 8 yrs ..Supposedly Still think we're under two-tier or do you concede that two-tier is gone now? And the words dark, caustic, destroy, and the term roidrage are all from science fiction? Jesus ex-Honestman, you need to open a dictionary or other book once in a while. May the Farce be with you Darth Bullshit! ROFL |
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