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Post by Ex-metalman on Feb 14, 2016 16:40:39 GMT -5
21yrs and counting....
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Feb 14, 2016 16:59:11 GMT -5
lmao. Welcome to Ford, YOU are now a MACHINE. |
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Post by tiger66 on Feb 14, 2016 17:12:20 GMT -5
2 weeks. Hang in there the job will get easier to you. When you first start your nervous and you work against yourself, as you calm down and your body adjusts it will all work out. Start signing up for better departments now. Good luck and God bless.
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Post by jawbone on Feb 14, 2016 20:15:45 GMT -5
What are considered to be the best departments/jobs.
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Post by tiger66 on Feb 14, 2016 20:24:56 GMT -5
Pre-delivery. Body-shop, paint.
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Post by reedycreekbuc on Feb 14, 2016 21:01:29 GMT -5
It is longer than 2 weeks. It will go away though.
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Post by justaworker on Feb 14, 2016 22:18:32 GMT -5
Just hang in there buddy. It does get better, in time you will be doing the job without even thinking about it. Remembering back, my hands were sore for months.
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Post by lap65 on Feb 15, 2016 5:03:17 GMT -5
It all depends on what job your on, how many hour/days you work. Mine were like that for months, had to run scalding hot water over them every day when I got up to be able to move my fingers. 23 years later & I drive a fork now & work 4 days a week but still have a little trouble with them on the 4th day. It will get better if you can take it, welcome to Ford, we trade body parts for cash.  |
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Post by JoePieper on Feb 15, 2016 5:49:18 GMT -5
Quit eating Tylenol and Motrin like candy. you will destroy your Kidneys with too much Ibuprofin and your liver with too much tylenol. Get some Aleeve and take 3 before work and it should get you through most of your shift.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Feb 15, 2016 6:19:10 GMT -5
Yep, go straight to a double deuce on break and drinking heavily after work. At least that's what worked for me. I hired in on a job (toe plate) in trim that had my hands swelled up like balloons for the first 2 months. I was in the parking lot by week 3 drinking on breaks to numb the pain and life in general.  I was lucky enough to not make it a problem and as soon as I got off that job, drinking went back to a fun thing to do, not purpose drinking. Good luck! |
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Feb 15, 2016 8:36:59 GMT -5
Pre-delivery. Body-shop, paint. Bodyshop can be just as bad as the worst places...i did corners for a few months and i still feel it a year.later in my gripping |
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Post by blackbird66 on Feb 15, 2016 10:56:37 GMT -5
Pre-delivery. Body-shop, paint. Bodyshop can be just as bad as the worst places...i did corners for a few months and i still feel it a year.later in my gripping Cab corners are def not my favorite job in body, but if you think its anywhere near as bad as trim then you've never worked trim, or you've been in body too long. |
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Feb 15, 2016 12:44:13 GMT -5
Bodyshop can be just as bad as the worst places...i did corners for a few months and i still feel it a year.later in my gripping Cab corners are def not my favorite job in body, but if you think its anywhere near as bad as trim then you've never worked trim, or you've been in body too long. I did P trim for 10 years...U trim for 3...been everywhere else since..... Frame sucks , there are some decent but few spots in trim. On a fork with NO monitor is my choice for MY LAST 13 yrs. |
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Post by pmooret on Feb 15, 2016 14:39:13 GMT -5
I came back in '88 when they started hiring again, groups of 30 at a time. Our line smelled like Icy Hot for months! It will be years before you have enough time to get into Pre-Delivery. Meantime, after about a year new hires usually are able to get utility jobs. With this classification you are able to do different jobs all the time and less likely to get a repetitive motion injury. Body Shop is noisy, Paint has fumes/odor. Maybe someone can give some insight into stock/fork jobs. BTW, my hands hurt for months too. Try vitamins.
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Post by TonyV on Feb 15, 2016 16:03:12 GMT -5
17 years of trim before I moved on.(22 total) Ice at night, warm water in the a.m. to get them moving again. Ibuprofen works best on hands due to anti-inflammatory properties. Get yourself a "Grip Master" at Dick's sporting goods. Keep it in your car to work your fingers individually on the way into work each day. It will strengthen your hands and ease joint pain.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Feb 15, 2016 16:05:21 GMT -5
Another good idea..Job rotation.Ask your fellow workers to rotate on jobs hourly..If a person doesn't want to it tells you 2 things..(1) their job is the one you want if you get a chance and (2) they're out for themselves and don't give a fuck about anyone else..
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Post by lap65 on Feb 15, 2016 19:24:23 GMT -5
Only people that rotate at LAP are utilities, I'm not even sure its allowed for regular operators, but I thought everyone did it at KTP with the team concept.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Feb 15, 2016 19:46:42 GMT -5
No ..they usually only do it if they're cool or forced to thru ergonomics..
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Post by lap65 on Feb 15, 2016 20:31:01 GMT -5
Really? I guess I was misinformed, I thought that was one of the "reasons" for the team concept or the MOA, for the team to rotate jobs so that repetitive motion wasn't killing everyone.
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Post by reedycreekbuc on Feb 15, 2016 20:48:05 GMT -5
Really? I guess I was misinformed, I thought that was one of the "reasons" for the team concept or the MOA, for the team to rotate jobs so that repetitive motion wasn't killing everyone. That was the original idea, but you can't have a team and a union at the same time. |
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Post by blackbird66 on Feb 15, 2016 20:52:54 GMT -5
You couldn't rotate jobs in trim with out a lot of training. It's not like Body, or Paint. You can't just walk up and learn a job. Some will take you a week to be able to keep up on your own.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Feb 15, 2016 21:17:35 GMT -5
I worked in trim for 9 yrs..we rotated but that was awhile back..We had jobs that had to be rotated because of ergo..I'm sure things have changed tho...
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Post by blackbird66 on Feb 15, 2016 23:13:13 GMT -5
I worked in trim for 9 yrs..we rotated but that was awhile back..We had jobs that had to be rotated because of ergo..I'm sure things have changed tho... They don't rotate now, however I've felt for many years that the company should force rotations. You'll always have some lucky ones who don't want to share the better jobs, and if you've waited years to be that guy it's understandable, but there's no denying the health benefits of rotation and the potential for lowering medical cost for Ford. Some 15 years or so ago I learned that ( at that time anyway) the HD factory workers rotated all their jobs, and even went for therapeutic messages on their breaks. But hey, we got it made don't we? Best Union and best benefits in the nation. |
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Post by lap65 on Feb 16, 2016 1:05:36 GMT -5
So other than the team leader doing most of of the supervisors job, what's different about the team concept?
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Post by tryingtomakeit on Feb 16, 2016 2:20:01 GMT -5
Hot paraffin wax for the hands.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Feb 16, 2016 13:40:27 GMT -5
In plant, ask someone to show you the HPS...you will need a password. If you are close to labor, visit them and inquire.
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Feb 16, 2016 14:33:56 GMT -5
Are you looking to bid on something? Transfer teams/depts.?
Are you looking to get off of the operation your are on asap within the team?
Are you headed to C-crew when the time comes?
Because the answer to all of those questions might be a little different.
Trying to help, not be a smartass.
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Feb 16, 2016 14:38:50 GMT -5
The problem for you, yessa, is that if you are low on the totem pole on your team, it can be hard to get off of a bad job for some time.
Some of us spent months, or years on bad jobs. It may be much, much easier for you because there will be so much churning. But I don't know how the freezing of rolls with the launch of new crew/new model will affect you.
But you're getting good advice here.
There is a special soreness that comes with being new to a job, it gets better. But at the same time, I think we all hurt a little from the moment we hire in until we leave....
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Post by beaner on Feb 16, 2016 17:29:57 GMT -5
2-4 weeks and you will get used to it and the pain will go away.
As for rotation, you should ask your team leader to learn another job with someone that is willing to train on your job too.
Rotation in trim is alive and well, contrary to what someone has said. You just have to trust the people around you and it will be okay. Doesn't hurt to ask.
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Post by rimfirejunkie on Feb 16, 2016 19:30:12 GMT -5
Super B complex.
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I was lucky enough to not make it a problem and as soon as I got off that job, drinking went back to a fun thing to do, not purpose drinking. Good luck!
