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Post by pmooret on Nov 6, 2016 13:52:56 GMT -5
Grandson works for Magna Seating and he says the talk around there is that we are getting a hybrid and will shut down for a major retool sometime in 2017. Does anybody know anything or keep up with this stuff?
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Post by toddstang on Nov 7, 2016 5:23:09 GMT -5
No hybrid. Shutting down to retool for aluminum body in 2017. The Ecoboost gets about the same milage as a hybrid already.
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Post by justaworker on Nov 7, 2016 6:56:06 GMT -5
No hybrid. Shutting down to retool for aluminum body in 2017. The Ecoboost gets about the same milage as a hybrid already. i have heard that exact thing, except 2018. and it makes sense, how much better MPG could a hybrid get??
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Post by toddstang on Nov 7, 2016 13:50:15 GMT -5
With fuel costing below $3 per gallon and not looking to go up any time soon, I don't see a hybrid in our future. The cost to produce them and the extra cost to buy them really isn't worth the trouble. Hybrids are actually a dying breed: According to an in-depth study by the U.S. Department of Energy's Argonne National Laboratory, hybrid cars do, in fact, require more energy to produce than conventional cars, emitting more greenhouse gases and burning more fossil fuels during the manufacturing process. The production of hybrid batteries, in particular, requires much more energy than producing a standard car battery and results in higher emission levels of gases like sulfur oxide [source: Burnham et al].
But do the environmental impacts of hybrid vehicle production outweigh the long-term benefits of driving a cleaner running automobile? That answer is a resounding "no." If you drive both a conventional and hybrid car for 160,000 miles (257,495 kilometers), the conventional vehicle requires far more energy to operate and emits far more greenhouse gases over its lifetime, significantly canceling out any imbalance during the production stage [source: Burnham et al].
Keep reading as we break down the statistics for both hybrid production emissions and hybrid driving emissions and learn what "green" really means.
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Post by Bcrew4life on Nov 7, 2016 14:01:21 GMT -5
My 2014 Fusion Hybrid get's 36 to 40 mpg, I get nearly the same highway or city if I'm careful. The 2017 Escape 1.5L ecoboost FWD gets 23 city-30 highway, 26 combined. The 2.0L & 2.5L FWD get's very close to the 1.5L mpg. I'd much rather see a diesel on the horizon for Escapes.
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Post by pmooret on Nov 7, 2016 16:13:28 GMT -5
An aluminum body will increase the mpg. I traded in a 2003 F150 for the new aluminum body F150, both crew cabs. I don't sit down and do the math on the mpg but I can tell when I go to the gas station that on my average, repetitive week of driving (no extra trips) I'm pumping less gas. The old engine was the 5.4 Triton and the new one is the old standard 5.0 so it could be the engine. But I think the big difference is the weight, when I get on the interstate this bitch wants to fly and she gets there quick. I've always had a heavy foot but I'm impressed this time. If it had a stick I'd be buying new tires all the time. Of course the Escape doesn't require as much metal/aluminum as the F150 so the comparison isn't apples to apples. If this old gal can tell a different in the mpg without doing the math, the engineers will be smoking a cigarette after they find out they can get a few more mpg's.
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