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Post by beaner on May 14, 2018 16:27:10 GMT -5
Should I go ahead and cancel my vacation plans for shutdown?
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Post by tiger66 on May 14, 2018 17:27:53 GMT -5
If you work in suprduty id say it's a good bet shutdown won't happen.
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Post by Ex-metalman on May 14, 2018 17:44:36 GMT -5
If you work in suprduty id say it's a good bet shutdown won't happen. So you think they can cancel shutdown?Dont see how when they told us in April the date.Also there’s lots of non refundable plane tix and condo rentals bought.That would suck.
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Post by beaner on May 14, 2018 17:50:39 GMT -5
If you work in suprduty id say it's a good bet shutdown won't happen. So you think they can cancel shutdown?Dont see how when they told us in April the date.Also there’s lots of non refundable plane tix and condo rentals bought.That would suck. I am one of the ones with non-refundable condo, plane, and plans made. And for those saying shouldnt have booked “non refundable”, I didn’t book until after the April 1 memo. With July 1 being a new quarter, I didn’t think they’d still be playing catch-up at that point but who knows. They could work 1 voluntary shift for shutdown week and maybe the Sunday (July 1) before shutdown officially starts on Monday?
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Post by Ex-metalman on May 14, 2018 18:06:16 GMT -5
They won’t cancel shutdown..
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Post by tiger66 on May 14, 2018 19:08:26 GMT -5
Super duty was only getting a week anyway right? I bet they are getting everything done now they were going to do during shutdown.
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Post by Ex-metalman on May 14, 2018 19:10:48 GMT -5
Super duty was only getting a week anyway right? I bet they are getting everything done now they were going to do during shutdown. Doesn’t matter.I bet 65 % of the workers have plans and money spent already.Union won’t allow that.Just my opinion tho.I know one person that won’t be there.😊Can see 12 hr shifts tho,and numerous Sun and Sat shifts
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Post by thintwowin on May 14, 2018 19:16:41 GMT -5
Super duty was only getting a week anyway right? I bet they are getting everything done now they were going to do during shutdown. Doesn’t matter.I bet 65 % of the workers have plans and money spent already.Union won’t allow that.Just my opinion tho.I know one person that won’t be there.😊Can see 12 hr shifts tho,and numerous Sun and Sat shifts Union won't allow lmao. The guy who wanted to give more give backs in 2009 got voted in. It wouldn't suprise me one bit.
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Post by Ex-metalman on May 14, 2018 19:21:38 GMT -5
Doesn’t matter.I bet 65 % of the workers have plans and money spent already.Union won’t allow that.Just my opinion tho.I know one person that won’t be there.😊Can see 12 hr shifts tho,and numerous Sun and Sat shifts Union won't allow lmao. The guy who wanted to give more give backs in 2009 got voted in. It wouldn't suprise me one bit. Yea guess no one knows til we get back.Like I said I won’t be there regardless.Therefore don’t really care that much.
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Post by feedemfishheads on May 15, 2018 8:54:01 GMT -5
After April 1 shutdown is set . AS far as 12 hour days, those would have to be voluntary unless there is a single breakdown lasting more than 4 hours.They can work us 10.7. The membership has worked 2 of the contractual agreement of 9 super days. They can work us 7 more on every other week basis unless its the last weekend of a quarter. Ford expressed no huge concerns over the layoff due to having 89 days of trucks already on the lots. There is no reason for the company to spend a bunch of money on double time and overtime unless they really need the trucks in a bad way, and after 7 extra days are worked , they will have to ask for volunteers for extra days unless they ask the union for help , which should come only if a deal can be cut if they have any brains at all. If they just give away more without getting anything in return then we need to clear out anyone that was voted in from the bargaining committee and up!
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Post by Ex-metalman on May 15, 2018 9:26:16 GMT -5
I hear ya.
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Post by thintwowin on May 15, 2018 12:48:51 GMT -5
After April 1 shutdown is set . AS far as 12 hour days, those would have to be voluntary unless there is a single breakdown lasting more than 4 hours.They can work us 10.7. The membership has worked 2 of the contractual agreement of 9 super days. They can work us 7 more on every other week basis unless its the last weekend of a quarter. Ford expressed no huge concerns over the layoff due to having 89 days of trucks already on the lots. There is no reason for the company to spend a bunch of money on double time and overtime unless they really need the trucks in a bad way, and after 7 extra days are worked , they will have to ask for volunteers for extra days unless they ask the union for help , which should come only if a deal can be cut if they have any brains at all. If they just give away more without getting anything in return then we need to clear out anyone that was voted in from the bargaining committee and up! 1 word = Launch 85 day was for F150s You are nuts if you don't think they want to make the 2 qtr look good to shareholders. 2 weeks without running what 14000(our plant only) units at least 10,000 profit each. Yes they count truck sold when it leaves plant. I bet with all the other units. they have lost more than a half a billion dollars.
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Post by Ex-metalman on May 15, 2018 13:02:51 GMT -5
After April 1 shutdown is set . AS far as 12 hour days, those would have to be voluntary unless there is a single breakdown lasting more than 4 hours.They can work us 10.7. The membership has worked 2 of the contractual agreement of 9 super days. They can work us 7 more on every other week basis unless its the last weekend of a quarter. Ford expressed no huge concerns over the layoff due to having 89 days of trucks already on the lots. There is no reason for the company to spend a bunch of money on double time and overtime unless they really need the trucks in a bad way, and after 7 extra days are worked , they will have to ask for volunteers for extra days unless they ask the union for help , which should come only if a deal can be cut if they have any brains at all. If they just give away more without getting anything in return then we need to clear out anyone that was voted in from the bargaining committee and up! 1 word = Launch 85 day was for F150s You are nuts if you don't think they want to make the 2 qtr look good to shareholders. 2 weeks without running what 14000(our plant only) units at least 10,000 profit each. Yes they count truck sold when it leaves plant. I bet with all the other units. they have lost more than a half a billion dollars. Launch?Super Duty isn’t in a launch.Expedition and Nav.Not Super duty.I still think shut down is a go.
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Post by beaner on May 15, 2018 13:04:51 GMT -5
After April 1 shutdown is set . AS far as 12 hour days, those would have to be voluntary unless there is a single breakdown lasting more than 4 hours.They can work us 10.7. The membership has worked 2 of the contractual agreement of 9 super days. They can work us 7 more on every other week basis unless its the last weekend of a quarter. Ford expressed no huge concerns over the layoff due to having 89 days of trucks already on the lots. There is no reason for the company to spend a bunch of money on double time and overtime unless they really need the trucks in a bad way, and after 7 extra days are worked , they will have to ask for volunteers for extra days unless they ask the union for help , which should come only if a deal can be cut if they have any brains at all. If they just give away more without getting anything in return then we need to clear out anyone that was voted in from the bargaining committee and up! I’m interested in your “last weekend before the end of a quarter” comment: does that mean they can work back to back the last two weekends before the end of a quarter or they can’t work us the last weekend of a quarter?
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Post by TonyV on May 15, 2018 13:34:46 GMT -5
I'm hearing there will be 10 weekends to make up production that was lost. No mention of shutdown.
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Post by nra4life on May 15, 2018 13:38:18 GMT -5
After April 1 shutdown is set . AS far as 12 hour days, those would have to be voluntary unless there is a single breakdown lasting more than 4 hours.They can work us 10.7. The membership has worked 2 of the contractual agreement of 9 super days. They can work us 7 more on every other week basis unless its the last weekend of a quarter. Ford expressed no huge concerns over the layoff due to having 89 days of trucks already on the lots. There is no reason for the company to spend a bunch of money on double time and overtime unless they really need the trucks in a bad way, and after 7 extra days are worked , they will have to ask for volunteers for extra days unless they ask the union for help , which should come only if a deal can be cut if they have any brains at all. If they just give away more without getting anything in return then we need to clear out anyone that was voted in from the bargaining committee and up! 1 word = Launch 85 day was for F150s You are nuts if you don't think they want to make the 2 qtr look good to shareholders. 2 weeks without running what 14000(our plant only) units at least 10,000 profit each. Yes they count truck sold when it leaves plant. I bet with all the other units. they have lost more than a half a billion dollars. With the plants on layoff they are out zero productions dollars so it’s basically a wash. Paying guys double time cuts into profits as well, will be a few extra weekends & 10.7 for awhile. It’s not the end of the world, shareholders know they own a shit stock anyway, it’s been in the news for two weeks and the stock is at the same price it was on the day of the fire, which for Ford stock is a plus, it’s not down lol
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Post by thintwowin on May 15, 2018 15:38:45 GMT -5
Zero production dollars no where near a wash.
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Post by Ex-metalman on May 15, 2018 15:40:00 GMT -5
Zero production dollars no where near a wash. Back to subject.No way they cancel shutdown.As you can see in Tony’s post.
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Post by thintwowin on May 15, 2018 15:44:00 GMT -5
Zero production dollars no where near a wash. Back to subject.No way they cancel shutdown.As you can see in Tony’s post. I don't think they will, but I wouldn't put it past them. Heard cleanup is doing there shutdown work now thou. So who knows
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Post by thintwowin on May 17, 2018 15:17:43 GMT -5
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Post by beaner on May 21, 2018 5:36:34 GMT -5
Hearing June 3rd and 24th are day shift OT
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