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Post by agslater on Aug 30, 2018 1:46:47 GMT -5
its still horse shit that transfers get seniority over people here. You mean to tell everyone on here that if you transfered to another plant you would happily accept a lower seniority date over people with less time than yourself? I highly doubt it!! I would never transfer. And yeah I cant imagine you old timers pain if youve been dealing with this for 25 years. A transfer with 1 more year than me working right next to me came in and worked nights for 2 months and got put on days just like that. You should expect if you transfer to be bumped down in seniority. If you move cross country for a factory job you may be desperate anyway. |
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Post by fedupfred on Aug 30, 2018 2:31:13 GMT -5
You mean to tell everyone on here that if you transfered to another plant you would happily accept a lower seniority date over people with less time than yourself? I highly doubt it!! I would never transfer. And yeah I cant imagine you old timers pain if youve been dealing with this for 25 years. A transfer with 1 more year than me working right next to me came in and worked nights for 2 months and got put on days just like that. You should expect if you transfer to be bumped down in seniority. If you move cross country for a factory job you may be desperate anyway. I know. I can’t believe these people transfer all over the country for a factory job. Like a bunch of wandering vagabonds. Then again you can’t really blame them. They have always gotten way better treatment than the people who hired in at Ktp |
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Post by nra4life on Aug 30, 2018 4:57:03 GMT -5
Get ready to be rolled to nights all you newbies. 95 seniority here. Avon, Atlanta, Lorien, Michigan employees pushed me to nights for 13 years. A LOT of newbies in paint and body on day shift. Get ready, here we go again. its still horse shit that transfers get seniority over people here. We work for Ford, not KTP. |
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Post by beenaround on Aug 30, 2018 5:09:13 GMT -5
its still horse shit that transfers get seniority over people here. We work for Ford, not KTP. My exact thought also!!! |
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Post by beenaround on Aug 30, 2018 5:10:24 GMT -5
You mean to tell everyone on here that if you transfered to another plant you would happily accept a lower seniority date over people with less time than yourself? I highly doubt it!! I would never transfer. And yeah I cant imagine you old timers pain if youve been dealing with this for 25 years. A transfer with 1 more year than me working right next to me came in and worked nights for 2 months and got put on days just like that. You should expect if you transfer to be bumped down in seniority. If you move cross country for a factory job you may be desperate anyway. You have no clue to what you are talking about. |
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Post by nra4life on Aug 30, 2018 16:11:20 GMT -5
I would never transfer. And yeah I cant imagine you old timers pain if youve been dealing with this for 25 years. A transfer with 1 more year than me working right next to me came in and worked nights for 2 months and got put on days just like that. You should expect if you transfer to be bumped down in seniority. If you move cross country for a factory job you may be desperate anyway. I know. I can’t believe these people transfer all over the country for a factory job. Like a bunch of wandering vagabonds. Then again you can’t really blame them. They have always gotten way better treatment than the people who hired in at Ktp Just normal people trying to take care of their families. Hard to walk away from 70k a year job and a pension, your lucky none of that matters to you. Bad enough these people decide to move because of a mis-managed company, having to take their kids away from their friends and schools, spouses away from their families, and then they catch shit here from co-workers on a daily basis because they didn’t hire in here. Hopefully you never have to make that decision, because it is a lot tougher when it is staring you in the face. Stay safe people. |
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Post by beenaround on Aug 30, 2018 18:38:52 GMT -5
I know. I can’t believe these people transfer all over the country for a factory job. Like a bunch of wandering vagabonds. Then again you can’t really blame them. They have always gotten way better treatment than the people who hired in at Ktp Just normal people trying to take care of their families. Hard to walk away from 70k a year job and a pension, your lucky none of that matters to you. Bad enough these people decide to move because of a mis-managed company, having to take their kids away from their friends and schools, spouses away from their families, and then they catch shit here from co-workers on a daily basis because they didn’t hire in here. Hopefully you never have to make that decision, because it is a lot tougher when it is staring you in the face. Stay safe people. Very well stated! |
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Post by agslater on Aug 30, 2018 20:26:20 GMT -5
I know. I can’t believe these people transfer all over the country for a factory job. Like a bunch of wandering vagabonds. Then again you can’t really blame them. They have always gotten way better treatment than the people who hired in at Ktp Just normal people trying to take care of their families. Hard to walk away from 70k a year job and a pension, your lucky none of that matters to you. Bad enough these people decide to move because of a mis-managed company, having to take their kids away from their friends and schools, spouses away from their families, and then they catch shit here from co-workers on a daily basis because they didn’t hire in here. Hopefully you never have to make that decision, because it is a lot tougher when it is staring you in the face. Stay safe people. I agree with you and understand why some do it, but at some point its not all about the money. I like where I live all my family is around here. It just seems like you would make your life more miserable just for a paycheck. |
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Post by buckeyeinky on Aug 31, 2018 4:55:49 GMT -5
not as miserable without a paycheck.If its just a paycheck why are you still here crying about transfers ruining your life? easy fix quit its just a factory job
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Post by raws2ktp on Aug 31, 2018 5:44:37 GMT -5
Sooo... About those expansion rumors.
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Post by agslater on Aug 31, 2018 20:16:34 GMT -5
not as miserable without a paycheck.If its just a paycheck why are you still here crying about transfers ruining your life? easy fix quit its just a factory job Buckeyes suck. Urban Meyer is a piece of shit!! |
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Post by buckeyeinky on Sept 1, 2018 5:17:23 GMT -5
lololol, I know, you hillbillies have been telling me this for 20 years now. 20 years, many different plants sending tranferies to ktp.. glad to know the first group is still the most hated. p.s. sucks to be 8x champs
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Post by blackbird66 on Sept 1, 2018 5:36:49 GMT -5
Just normal people trying to take care of their families. Hard to walk away from 70k a year job and a pension, your lucky none of that matters to you. Bad enough these people decide to move because of a mis-managed company, having to take their kids away from their friends and schools, spouses away from their families, and then they catch shit here from co-workers on a daily basis because they didn’t hire in here. Hopefully you never have to make that decision, because it is a lot tougher when it is staring you in the face. Stay safe people. I agree with you and understand why some do it, but at some point its not all about the money. I like where I live all my family is around here. It just seems like you would make your life more miserable just for a paycheck. Miserable for a pay check? Obviously you’re happy here. I moved here when my original plant closed, and I quite like it here. It was a difficult move, especially for the kids, but in the long run, it has worked out better for us all. Daughter has a couple of horses, other kids are all happy....... And I didn’t loose my excellent benefits or pension. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Sept 1, 2018 6:41:20 GMT -5
its still horse shit that transfers get seniority over people here. You mean to tell everyone on here that if you transfered to another plant you would happily accept a lower seniority date over people with less time than yourself? I highly doubt it!! No I would KEEP my hire date ,but go to shift availability.And be happy I had another plant to go to.Pretty damn pathetic when your same LOCAL brothers fuck you .Like LAP did.Plant never permanently closed.Why were they ever allowed to stay at ktp? |
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Post by beenaround on Sept 1, 2018 7:20:02 GMT -5
Well yes you would have to go to available work. Though not below anyone with a lower seniority date than yourself. People from LAP were offered those jobs because there were open jobs available. That's contractual. They did not displace anyone to the street. Also, if anyone still has KTP as their home plant they can bump someone from KTP in the event of a permanent layoff at LAP.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Sept 1, 2018 13:53:27 GMT -5
Well yes you would have to go to available work. Though not below anyone with a lower seniority date than yourself. People from LAP were offered those jobs because there were open jobs available. That's contractual. They did not displace anyone to the street. Also, if anyone still has KTP as their home plant they can bump someone from KTP in the event of a permanent layoff at LAP. Yea like I said.LAP closed Temporarily,not shut down like Lorraine,Avon,Indy,Atl.etc.But Why would LAP be in hiring mode when they were just rebounding and had people sent to KTP and Chicago?Ktp should of got the new hires and shipped the old guys back to LAP.Funny I live 7 Miles from LAP and was never asked to go there?KTP 95 guys like me have been fucked from the get go.But I’m done in 3 more so stay safe and getter done |
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Post by fedupfred on Sept 1, 2018 14:30:02 GMT -5
lololol, I know, you hillbillies have been telling me this for 20 years now. 20 years, many different plants sending tranferies to ktp.. glad to know the first group is still the most hated. p.s. sucks to be 8x champs KTP won’t ever close or be moved because people from here have made it the best plant in the Ford system. No easy task while having to carry a bunch of FIFO , but it would be hilarious to watch all of you pack up your 30 year old pickups and head off to the next plant on your tour , if it ever did. Who would be the Beverly Hillbillies then ? Lol |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Sept 1, 2018 14:35:18 GMT -5
lololol, I know, you hillbillies have been telling me this for 20 years now. 20 years, many different plants sending tranferies to ktp.. glad to know the first group is still the most hated. p.s. sucks to be 8x champs I have lots of Lorrainan friends .And Avon lake ,Indy,Kansas City ,Atl ,LAP.I don’t hate anybody.Just strange that a plant re-tools and we get a bumper crop sent to KTP for good in the same 862 local.Oh PS BIG BLUE HAS 8 Trophies too! |
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Post by tiger66 on Sept 1, 2018 15:15:33 GMT -5
Transfers are water under the bridge. Time to move on. Anybody hearing about new paint shop and expanding suv body?
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Post by blackbird66 on Sept 2, 2018 13:09:17 GMT -5
lololol, I know, you hillbillies have been telling me this for 20 years now. 20 years, many different plants sending tranferies to ktp.. glad to know the first group is still the most hated. p.s. sucks to be 8x champs KTP won’t ever close or be moved because people from here have made it the best plant in the Ford system. No easy task while having to carry a bunch of FIFO , but it would be hilarious to watch all of you pack up your 30 year old pickups and head off to the next plant on your tour , if it ever did. Who would be the Beverly Hillbillies then ? Lol Best plant? Please explain. More to the point....... regardless of what area we are best at...... history has shown that doesn’t matter. Those decisions are weighted heavier by tax incentives, and politics. Quality, production numbers, and the like are controlled by management. Regardless of any reality.... any success is seen as good leadership. Not good workers. Poor quality, or production is reason to replace lower management. Not the actual work force. |
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Post by ktpregular on Sept 3, 2018 1:23:22 GMT -5
Douche bag troll above
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Post by tiger66 on Sept 5, 2018 5:02:34 GMT -5
Did you see the August sales numbers for our plant? Both SUV’s sales thru the roof. Something has to give.
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Post by sunshine on Sept 14, 2018 11:51:18 GMT -5
people with over 20 years seniority have recently been placed on the the hardest, hottest jobs in old paint while temps were placed on their "good" jobs. At least 12 legacy moved on day shift.
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Post by tiger66 on Sept 14, 2018 17:27:24 GMT -5
How is that possible?
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