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Post by tiger66 on Aug 14, 2018 19:52:53 GMT -5
Rumor of a new paint shop and possible larger SUV body shop. What you got?
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Post by rimfirejunkie on Aug 15, 2018 1:14:02 GMT -5
I know an electrician that saw the plans for paint shop. If it’s gonna happen I’m sure it’ll come up at contract time. Lol
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Post by gator on Aug 15, 2018 13:09:36 GMT -5
I dont know about paint but I do know a contractor was back in ITR looking to remove the building and take body shop back toward the frame yard. Not only for body shop but to expand expedition and navigator trim. He said ITR would have a new building behind the frame yard.
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Post by agslater on Aug 15, 2018 15:53:18 GMT -5
Ive been hearing they are going to start a D crew
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Post by hewit on Aug 16, 2018 6:07:48 GMT -5
I dont know about paint but I do know a contractor was back in ITR looking to remove the building and take body shop back toward the frame yard. Not only for body shop but to expand expedition and navigator trim. He said ITR would have a new building behind the frame yard. Poor ITR guys. All they want is a forever home.... |
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Post by TonyV on Aug 16, 2018 15:11:07 GMT -5
Expansion for 2020 is huge. They bought the houses on Collins Lane. The railroad tracks, frame yard will be under roof back to the fence. The expansion will cause thousands to be hired. No news on new product.
I'm quite sure this will be used against you in the 2019 contract negotiations/vote
My info is from management side. Take it with a grain of salt......
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Post by saugerman on Aug 16, 2018 15:17:00 GMT -5
No matter it will pass 51-49
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Post by thisplacesux on Aug 16, 2018 16:26:15 GMT -5
Expansion for 2020 is huge. They bought the houses on Collins Lane. The railroad tracks, frame yard will be under roof back to the fence. The expansion will cause thousands to be hired. No news on new product. I'm quite sure this will be used against you in the 2019 contract negotiations/vote My info is from management side. Take it with a grain of salt...... Good news if true but I’m still voting NO! |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 16, 2018 16:59:52 GMT -5
Expansion for 2020 is huge. They bought the houses on Collins Lane. The railroad tracks, frame yard will be under roof back to the fence. The expansion will cause thousands to be hired. No news on new product. I'm quite sure this will be used against you in the 2019 contract negotiations/vote My info is from management side. Take it with a grain of salt...... Good news if true but I’m still voting NO! Definitely! |
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Post by fedupfred on Aug 22, 2018 21:43:51 GMT -5
New paint shop will be located in parking lot in front of SUV paint. Probably be on line by late 2020 or early 2021.
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Post by tiger66 on Aug 23, 2018 3:48:19 GMT -5
What are they going to run in new paint shop?
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Post by beenaround on Aug 23, 2018 10:06:46 GMT -5
trucks
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Post by tiger66 on Aug 23, 2018 12:49:39 GMT -5
Really.
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Post by gator on Aug 23, 2018 13:18:37 GMT -5
Are they going to keep the current super duty paint?
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Post by beenaround on Aug 23, 2018 18:29:45 GMT -5
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Post by fedupfred on Aug 23, 2018 18:31:02 GMT -5
Are they going to keep the current super duty paint? No. They will do the same thing they did when “old” paint was first built. The new super duty paint shop will ramp up as the old one winds down. |
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Post by beaner on Aug 27, 2018 13:15:02 GMT -5
Might create some jobs for when LAP drops C Crew next spring.
And can someone fill me in on how it would work if LAP drops C Crew? Assuming they have time on people here, they would take their spots, correct?
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Post by tiger66 on Aug 27, 2018 17:23:03 GMT -5
That space where old paint sits is way too valuable , even if they shut it down they will put something there.
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Post by pmooret on Aug 27, 2018 18:48:52 GMT -5
Might create some jobs for when LAP drops C Crew next spring. And can someone fill me in on how it would work if LAP drops C Crew? Assuming they have time on people here, they would take their spots, correct? Yes, when there is a layoff you can bump between the two plants. However, if you're low seniority you should go over this with a committee person to get the specifics. I doubt that tpt's have roll rights. So if this rumor comes to fruition there will be several of us, me included, who will take the buyout (again, RUMOR). Some folks will wait until contract to take a buyout along with folks from KTP. Another rumor I've heard is that we will go back to a five day 10 hr work week schedule. If they do this and also go back to tag relief it takes a lot of people to pull reliefs. Therefore, between buyouts, tpt's and possible tag relief you may be higher up the totem pole than you think. The layoff rumor is very strong out here right now but no one will admit to it. My first thought when I heard the rumor a few weeks ago is that Ford Motor Co isn't that good at predicting ahead of time that they will not need a third shift come next Spring. Presently, the order bank is where it always is but then I heard from one person that the company had been looking at the five day ten hour work schedule it kind of all fell together. Rumors, rumors, rumors!! |
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Post by gator on Aug 27, 2018 19:40:30 GMT -5
People from LAP can only bump over here if we are in hiring mode, the bumping between plants was changed years ago. When LAP shut down for a year about a thousand people thought they could bump to KTP and they were shut down immediately. Dave Farley and some of upper management and upper union allowed KTP to go in hiring mode for over 200 plus people and LAP had sign ups for the 200 plus. A lot of people from LAP got shipped to Chicago. Now the TPTs/STS have no seniority so they would be let go. I was in the meeting when the decision was made.
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Post by pmooret on Aug 28, 2018 11:32:44 GMT -5
Do you recall if this decision was based on a permanent or a temporary layoff? Some folks who went to Chicago came back when production started again but I don't know if all of them came back. The ones who went and came back just couldn't afford to take the cut in pay (paycheck vs unemployment and sub) as they were still raising children or sole provider.
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Post by gator on Aug 28, 2018 12:46:33 GMT -5
I don’t know the exact details but I know that it changed years ago. Temporary or permanent doesn’t matter, KTP had a permanent layoff back when the recession hit and there was a few hundred people in gen pool for a long time. Some of those people had seniority over people at LAP and thought the same thing but was told the same thing. Either plant has to be in hiring mode to have people transfer and bump.
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Post by ktpregular on Aug 29, 2018 11:56:19 GMT -5
Get ready to be rolled to nights all you newbies. 95 seniority here. Avon, Atlanta, Lorien, Michigan employees pushed me to nights for 13 years. A LOT of newbies in paint and body on day shift. Get ready, here we go again.
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Post by beaner on Aug 29, 2018 16:24:52 GMT -5
Get ready to be rolled to nights all you newbies. 95 seniority here. Avon, Atlanta, Lorien, Michigan employees pushed me to nights for 13 years. A LOT of newbies in paint and body on day shift. Get ready, here we go again. Which is wild because there’s people in trim on nights with 4+ years seniority. |
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Aug 29, 2018 18:00:27 GMT -5
Get ready to be rolled to nights all you newbies. 95 seniority here. Avon, Atlanta, Lorien, Michigan employees pushed me to nights for 13 years. A LOT of newbies in paint and body on day shift. Get ready, here we go again. Which is wild because there’s people in trim on nights with 4+ years seniority. There shouldn't be ANYONE in trim with more than 5 years....there should be a reset on non-bid jobs plantwide and move the newbies out of paint/body/stamping. |
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Post by fedupfred on Aug 29, 2018 18:47:35 GMT -5
You guys don’t know the half of it. Not only are there new hires in paint but they are on some of the easiest jobs in paint. They don’t even rotate to the spray jobs anymore. They just take the easiest jobs that use to take 15 years seniority to get.
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Post by beaner on Aug 29, 2018 20:34:41 GMT -5
I’m in trim and I’m good unless LAP people come over. Then I might have to go back to nights. I didn’t really follow what you all were saying about what the contract says about them coming here.
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Post by agslater on Aug 29, 2018 21:36:53 GMT -5
Get ready to be rolled to nights all you newbies. 95 seniority here. Avon, Atlanta, Lorien, Michigan employees pushed me to nights for 13 years. A LOT of newbies in paint and body on day shift. Get ready, here we go again. its still horse shit that transfers get seniority over people here. |
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Post by fedupfred on Aug 29, 2018 21:53:45 GMT -5
Get ready to be rolled to nights all you newbies. 95 seniority here. Avon, Atlanta, Lorien, Michigan employees pushed me to nights for 13 years. A LOT of newbies in paint and body on day shift. Get ready, here we go again. its still horse shit that transfers get seniority over people here. For many of us hired in 94/95 that’s the story of our whole Ford career. |
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Post by beenaround on Aug 29, 2018 23:33:25 GMT -5
Get ready to be rolled to nights all you newbies. 95 seniority here. Avon, Atlanta, Lorien, Michigan employees pushed me to nights for 13 years. A LOT of newbies in paint and body on day shift. Get ready, here we go again. its still horse shit that transfers get seniority over people here. You mean to tell everyone on here that if you transfered to another plant you would happily accept a lower seniority date over people with less time than yourself? I highly doubt it!! |
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