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Post by agslater on Oct 16, 2018 23:08:24 GMT -5
Havent seen a union rep in a while ( imagine that). I have a question if any of you fine folks could answer would be great. Once a team lead gets off of team lead does he/she then automatically go to top of the team seniority for open jobs? The new team lead we are going to have is leaving his job and I was wondering if the old team lead will just get that job easy.
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Post by rnlouisville1 on Oct 16, 2018 23:32:34 GMT -5
No. He doesnt automatically go to top seniority. He falls in line where his seniority date allows. The open job goes to the highest seniority person who is interested. And so forth with the open jobs that would create.
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Post by rnlouisville1 on Oct 16, 2018 23:33:42 GMT -5
What area and crew? I might be able to send one your way.
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Post by machination on Oct 17, 2018 7:22:01 GMT -5
No. He doesnt automatically go to top seniority. He falls in line where his seniority date allows. The open job goes to the highest seniority person who is interested. And so forth with the open jobs that would create. This. Seniority is based on what your hire date is. I don't understand the "going to top seniority" comment. That doesn't make any sense. Your seniority (and his) is what your seniority is. Period. The open job must be bid to everyone on the team. Former team leader doesn't just get it. And they aren't team leads, for fucks sake..... The title is called Team LeadER. I never even heard the term team "lead" before the 2016 new hire invasion. This isn't fucking McDonald's. We have team leaders here, not "leads".... Team "leads" assuming "top team seniority" irrespective of hire date.... It's no wonder so many teams are having problems. You new hires don't have any idea wtf anything is, lol. |
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Post by nra4life on Oct 17, 2018 11:38:39 GMT -5
Havent seen a union rep in a while ( imagine that). I have a question if any of you fine folks could answer would be great. Once a team lead gets off of team lead does he/she then automatically go to top of the team seniority for open jobs? The new team lead we are going to have is leaving his job and I was wondering if the old team lead will just get that job easy. If your rep doesn’t come around call the in plant union office and ask for him, if he doesn’t show up go to the in plant union office and ask for him. If that doesn’t work get a bargaining guy involved. These fucks take $75.00 a month from you don’t get answers on a message board. Stay safe people. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 17, 2018 15:44:01 GMT -5
Havent seen a union rep in a while ( imagine that). I have a question if any of you fine folks could answer would be great. Once a team lead gets off of team lead does he/she then automatically go to top of the team seniority for open jobs? The new team lead we are going to have is leaving his job and I was wondering if the old team lead will just get that job easy. If your rep doesn’t come around call the in plant union office and ask for him, if he doesn’t show up go to the in plant union office and ask for him. If that doesn’t work get a bargaining guy involved. These fucks take $75.00 a month from you don’t get answers on a message board. Stay safe people. So true.But I’ve all but given up on this union.No matter the question They NEVER act like they’re on OUR side.23yrs and 4 months of the shit and I’m convinced they suck.Then they put out a minutes letter telling how thankful to be for what they’ve accomplished?Most are laws.?With RTW available after the 2019 Contract they should be scared.. |
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Post by agslater on Oct 18, 2018 1:43:32 GMT -5
No. He doesnt automatically go to top seniority. He falls in line where his seniority date allows. The open job goes to the highest seniority person who is interested. And so forth with the open jobs that would create. This. Seniority is based on what your hire date is. I don't understand the "going to top seniority" comment. That doesn't make any sense. Your seniority (and his) is what your seniority is. Period. The open job must be bid to everyone on the team. Former team leader doesn't just get it. And they aren't team leads, for fucks sake..... The title is called Team LeadER. I never even heard the term team "lead" before the 2016 new hire invasion. This isn't fucking McDonald's. We have team leaders here, not "leads".... Team "leads" assuming "top team seniority" irrespective of hire date.... It's not wonder so many teams are having problems. You new hires don't have any idea wtf anything is, lol. Ok dick wad. Actually our team has two different lists. We have a flip list and is actually based on how long youve been on the team and another one which is of plant seniority or hire in date. Team leads are awesome. You must have a soft spot for union reps or be a team lead (brown noser) |
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Oct 18, 2018 6:59:16 GMT -5
This. Seniority is based on what your hire date is. I don't understand the "going to top seniority" comment. That doesn't make any sense. Your seniority (and his) is what your seniority is. Period. The open job must be bid to everyone on the team. Former team leader doesn't just get it. And they aren't team leads, for fucks sake..... The title is called Team LeadER. I never even heard the term team "lead" before the 2016 new hire invasion. This isn't fucking McDonald's. We have team leaders here, not "leads".... Team "leads" assuming "top team seniority" irrespective of hire date.... It's not wonder so many teams are having problems. You new hires don't have any idea wtf anything is, lol. Ok dick wad. Actually our team has two different lists. We have a flip list and is actually based on how long youve been on the team and another one which is of plant seniority or hire in date. Team leads are awesome. You must have a soft spot for union reps or be a team lead (brown noser) Flip lists are not a contractual bargain. A team can vote and decide on however they want to run it you noob. Lol |
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Post by machination on Oct 18, 2018 12:00:28 GMT -5
This. Seniority is based on what your hire date is. I don't understand the "going to top seniority" comment. That doesn't make any sense. Your seniority (and his) is what your seniority is. Period. The open job must be bid to everyone on the team. Former team leader doesn't just get it. And they aren't team leads, for fucks sake..... The title is called Team LeadER. I never even heard the term team "lead" before the 2016 new hire invasion. This isn't fucking McDonald's. We have team leaders here, not "leads".... Team "leads" assuming "top team seniority" irrespective of hire date.... It's not wonder so many teams are having problems. You new hires don't have any idea wtf anything is, lol. Ok dick wad. Actually our team has two different lists. We have a flip list and is actually based on how long youve been on the team and another one which is of plant seniority or hire in date. Team leads are awesome. You must have a soft spot for union reps or be a team lead (brown noser) What the fuck does your team's flip list have to do with bidding on jobs? Jesus Christ, see what I mean people?... Your seniority is based on your hire date. It's how long you've been here. That's what seniority is. Wow. Just wow. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 18, 2018 12:10:40 GMT -5
Ok dick wad. Actually our team has two different lists. We have a flip list and is actually based on how long youve been on the team and another one which is of plant seniority or hire in date. Team leads are awesome. You must have a soft spot for union reps or be a team lead (brown noser) What the fuck does your team's flip list have to do with bidding on jobs? Jesus Christ, see what I mean people?... Your seniority is based on your hire date. It's how long you've been here. That's what seniority is. Wow. Just wow. Machy ...I must admit you cracked me up on this one.Im with you the only list that matters is the seniority list.And kids please stop shitting in the urinal and floor..Actually saw a sign from clean up crew Tuesday on restroom door..Wow .What has Ford done to us???Have a good one.SMFH |
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Oct 18, 2018 13:00:51 GMT -5
What the fuck does your team's flip list have to do with bidding on jobs? Jesus Christ, see what I mean people?... Your seniority is based on your hire date. It's how long you've been here. That's what seniority is. Wow. Just wow.LMAO. 2 SENORITY LISTS......LMAO Machy ...I must admit you cracked me up on this one.Im with you the only list that matters is the seniority list.And kids please stop shitting in the urinal and floor..Actually saw a sign from clean up crew Tuesday on restroom door..Wow .What has Ford done to us???Have a good one.SMFH 2 SENORITY LISTS.....LMAO |
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Oct 18, 2018 13:10:36 GMT -5
This. Seniority is based on what your hire date is. I don't understand the "going to top seniority" comment. doe make any sense. Your seniority (and his) is what your seniority is. Period. The open job must be bid to everyone on the team. Former team leader doesn't just get it. And they aren't team leads, for fucks sake..... The title is called Team LeadER. I never even heard the term team "lead" before the 2016 new hire invasion. This isn't fucking McDonald's. We have team leaders here, not "leads".... Team "leads" assuming "top team seniority" irrespective of hire date.... It's not wonder so many teams are having problems. You new hires don't have any idea wtf anything is, lol. Ok dick wad. Actually our team has two different lists. We have a flip list and is actually based on how long youve been on the team and another one which is of plant seniority or hire in date. Team leads are awesome. You must have a soft spot for union reps or be a team lead (brown noser) we have a seniority list for who goes to the bathroom the least |
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Post by machination on Oct 18, 2018 13:34:16 GMT -5
Ok dick wad. Actually our team has two different lists. We have a flip list and is actually based on how long youve been on the team and another one which is of plant seniority or hire in date. Team leads are awesome. You must have a soft spot for union reps or be a team lead (brown noser) we have a seniority list for who goes to the bathroom the least Wouldn't it be funny if the mad pooper's team has a list for who's turn it is to shit on the floor? That'll keep em off the trail! |
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Post by saugerman on Oct 18, 2018 14:58:25 GMT -5
I think they should stop calling them union reps and start calling them company reps.... They haven't been on our side in years
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 18, 2018 15:12:43 GMT -5
I think they should stop calling them union reps and start calling them company reps.... They haven't been on our side in years Bet they change after 9/2019.If not I see bad days ahead for our UAW. |
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Post by machination on Oct 18, 2018 15:56:51 GMT -5
New and old workers, once the local agreement gets printed, don't wait around expecting it to be handed to you. They haven't done that en masse in years, and rightfully so since most people wouldn't read it anyway and it costs money to print.
So once they're printed, march all your asses down to the hall after or before work one day, go into the front office's door, and ask for a copy. Or two. Educate yourselves on the basic stuff and the letters of understanding. The local agreement isn't very thick, and isn't as complicated as the national. And if you want a copy of the national you can either march your ass down to the hall and request one or you can find them online here
uaw.org/uaw-auto-bargaining/fordcontract/
SCROLL DOWN for the purple books, not the summary! We can all read right? At a minimum you want Volume 1 and Volume 4A. (That would be Roman numerals "I" and "IV" for you cretins who somehow don't know that.) If you're curious about benefits language, other stuff, or are in skilled trades, read the other copies.
Of course you wont memorize everything. Committee people can't even do that. The point is to gain a basic familiarity with the structure of the books, so you can have a better idea of where to look for stuff you need answers to if you can't remember this or that. And of course you should ask someone who knows if you can't find the answer. Some things can be vague or just a matter of conventional practice. It's best to ask someone reasonable and level-headed. Don't ask that whiny malcontent Jim Bob Hucklefuck on the other line, you know the guy who's always getting fucked this way and that way. He doesn't make good decisions. And yes I'll probably still be a dick but I'm just trying to help in my own special way.
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Post by agslater on Oct 18, 2018 20:24:42 GMT -5
You old geezers crack me up also. Rollin up to work with your air monarchs smoking a cig listening to Lynard Sknynard or ac/dc. Nothing like reliving the glory days from the 80's. And to you hairy sob's wearing cut offs: put a damn shirt on that shit is foul.
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Post by agslater on Oct 18, 2018 20:27:16 GMT -5
What the fuck does your team's flip list have to do with bidding on jobs? Jesus Christ, see what I mean people?... Your seniority is based on your hire date. It's how long you've been here. That's what seniority is. Wow. Just wow. Machy ...I must admit you cracked me up on this one.Im with you the only list that matters is the seniority list.And kids please stop shitting in the urinal and floor..Actually saw a sign from clean up crew Tuesday on restroom door..Wow .What has Ford done to us???Have a good one.SMFH Atleast we can actually see the toilet and don't have to go 20 times/shift. Gold bond bitches |
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Post by agslater on Oct 18, 2018 20:28:43 GMT -5
Machy ...I must admit you cracked me up on this one.Im with you the only list that matters is the seniority list.And kids please stop shitting in the urinal and floor..Actually saw a sign from clean up crew Tuesday on restroom door..Wow .What has Ford done to us???Have a good one.SMFH 2 SENORITY LISTS.....LMAO Hahahaha so god damn funny. Im laughing too. |
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