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Post by thisplacesux on Nov 28, 2018 13:18:51 GMT -5
Hearing that LAP is eliminating C Crew and up to 500 senior people have the option to transfer to KTP. Anyone?
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Post by tiger66 on Nov 28, 2018 13:28:56 GMT -5
It's on the detroit free press right now. It's true.
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Post by thisplacesux on Nov 28, 2018 13:49:03 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 28, 2018 13:56:48 GMT -5
Yep..2012 and less seniority..SUPPOSEDLY
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 28, 2018 15:09:28 GMT -5
so temps who have been here 2-3 years are just kicked to curb? pretty fucking stupid I wouldn’t go that far yet.Theyre saying March?Hopefully all people will keep their jobs!
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Post by ihatemyjob on Nov 28, 2018 15:46:00 GMT -5
so temps who have been here 2-3 years are just kicked to curb? pretty fucking stupid I wouldn’t go that far yet.Theyre saying March?Hopefully all people will keep their jobs! Not 2012 down. Will be starting at top of seniority list and surveying down. So top seniority has first option.
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Post by thisplacesux on Nov 28, 2018 15:51:54 GMT -5
I wouldn’t go that far yet.Theyre saying March?Hopefully all people will keep their jobs! Not 2012 down. Will be starting at top of seniority list and surveying down. So top seniority has first option. He’s saying that IF low seniority is forced then it’ll be 2012 and less. Obviously they’ll ask high and force low. We are adding a C crew to SUV body and paint so hopefully these LAP transfers will be absorbed without any temp lay-offs. If you’re a temp don’t hit the panic button just yet.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 28, 2018 15:52:16 GMT -5
Never heard of that
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Nov 28, 2018 19:32:31 GMT -5
LAP Announcement:
It was announced that LAP will be sending KTP approximately 500 members in the spring of next year. Here is what that means for us at KTP:
We are getting approximately 500 members from LAP. KTP will need those members to return back to the 3 crew pattern in SUV Body and Paint next year to back fill the current KTP members who choose to transfer into SUV Body and Paint.
LAP will be surveyed by seniority to volunteer to come to KTP as spelled out in Vol. 1 Appendix N starting on page 230.
SUV Body,Paint, and Bid Openings:
Our Department to Department Transfer lists will be used to fill all the VAT available work openings in SUV Body and Paint. We were able to get the Company to agree to fill all the VAT openings through the department transfer list with no limit. So sign up asap if you are interested in one of these departments. We cannot tell you what the seniority will be on A or C crews.
As of now, the Company has identified over 300 bid jobs needed for the increased production. Most if not all of the bids will start going up and be filled before anyone transfers in.
In Solidarity,
Allen Hughes
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Post by beaner on Nov 29, 2018 9:19:57 GMT -5
Is there any way to find a plant seniority list without waiting 3 months from a commitee person?
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Post by tiger66 on Nov 29, 2018 9:30:19 GMT -5
You use to be able to go onto home page and look it up. They disabled it for some reason.
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Post by machination on Nov 29, 2018 12:43:19 GMT -5
Is there any way to find a plant seniority list without waiting 3 months from a commitee person? Ask labor relations if they would email you one. Or your superintendent or lead process coach. Or ask your committeeman to ask them to email you one. I have an up to date copy. It helps if you have a Ford email. If you don't then ask your team leader to get one emailed to him. I agree that they should keep an up to date one on the internal ktp site but they don't unfortunately.
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Post by ktpbob on Nov 30, 2018 11:53:00 GMT -5
Seniority List is up again now on the KTP Homepage. I checked it yesterday, Thursday,Nov 29. Click on 'Labor Relations' on left of page and then 'Site Pages'.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 30, 2018 12:04:25 GMT -5
Seniority List is up again now on the KTP Homepage. I checked it yesterday, Thursday,Nov 29. Click on 'Labor Relations' on left of page and then 'Site Pages'. Thanks.Is it by dept.or plant wide..
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Post by fivemore93 on Nov 30, 2018 16:02:05 GMT -5
Plant wide
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 4, 2018 12:32:46 GMT -5
Seniority List is up again now on the KTP Homepage. I checked it yesterday, Thursday,Nov 29. Click on 'Labor Relations' on left of page and then 'Site Pages'. Just looked at list.Its actually incorrect.It isn’t in order by SSN.So how would one know their EXACT SENIORITY???Its in Global order of hire date.
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Post by rockyt on Dec 4, 2018 15:11:12 GMT -5
It’s a seniority list!!!!!!! It’s in order of seniority. That’s how you can check to see were you are!
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 4, 2018 15:18:55 GMT -5
It’s a seniority list!!!!!!! It’s in order of seniority. That’s how you can check to see were you are! Ok listen to me real good.I have 4 friends that have the SAME HIRE DATE.They have a LOWER last 4 than me.Ive seen them with my own eyes!Im above them on the list!FACT.I can actually show anyone that doesn’t believe me.Weve been friends for 23 yrs and6 months.Same team a few times and still work around each other..
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Post by agslater on Dec 4, 2018 17:07:14 GMT -5
It’s a seniority list!!!!!!! It’s in order of seniority. That’s how you can check to see were you are! Ok listen to me real good.I have 4 friends that have the SAME HIRE DATE.They have a LOWER last 4 than me.Ive seen them with my own eyes!Im above them on the list!FACT.I can actually show anyone that doesn’t believe me.Weve been friends for 23 yrs and6 months.Same team a few times and still work around each other.. Your "favors" have finally payed off for you :-)
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 4, 2018 17:17:32 GMT -5
Ok listen to me real good.I have 4 friends that have the SAME HIRE DATE.They have a LOWER last 4 than me.Ive seen them with my own eyes!Im above them on the list!FACT.I can actually show anyone that doesn’t believe me.Weve been friends for 23 yrs and6 months.Same team a few times and still work around each other.. Your "favors" have finally payed off for you :-) Huh????All I’m doing is showing an example of what could possibly be a glitch?If you don’t really know anyone’s last 4 of their social how do you know the list is correct?In my case I do know and it’s clearly not by SSN..Sorta get it now..
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Post by thintwowin on Dec 4, 2018 18:25:45 GMT -5
When Joe Bob and his crew came from Lap they redid our list like Lap social numbers , which is the opposite of KTP. Guess they still haven’t changed or fixed
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 4, 2018 18:48:16 GMT -5
When Joe Bob and his crew came from Lap they redid our list like Lap social numbers , which is the opposite of KTP. Guess they still haven’t changed or fixed So KTP has the same policy as LAP.Higher number SSN has more seniority?
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Post by tiger66 on Dec 4, 2018 19:11:25 GMT -5
No, it's the same way it's always been. Lowest last 4
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 4, 2018 19:25:24 GMT -5
No, it's the same way it's always been. Lowest last 4 Thintowin saying they changed it?All I know is something’s either wrong or changed .
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Post by beenaround on Dec 4, 2018 19:42:37 GMT -5
With your time Metalman don't really think you have anything to worry about.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 4, 2018 19:49:23 GMT -5
With your time Metalman don't really think you have anything to worry about. I know..Just don’t understand why the list is flipped.?And it would be nice for all to know the CORRECT way it’s being listed.I actually missed being on days once because of a LOWER SSN.
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Post by agslater on Dec 4, 2018 20:19:21 GMT -5
Your "favors" have finally payed off for you :-) Huh????All I’m doing is showing an example of what could possibly be a glitch?If you don’t really know anyone’s last 4 of their social how do you know the list is correct?In my case I do know and it’s clearly not by SSN..Sorta get it now.. I was just f'n with you.
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Post by machination on Dec 5, 2018 8:31:59 GMT -5
Huh????All I’m doing is showing an example of what could possibly be a glitch?If you don’t really know anyone’s last 4 of their social how do you know the list is correct?In my case I do know and it’s clearly not by SSN..Sorta get it now.. I was just f'n with you. Fucking with him by not making any damn sense at all. A true minion of bullshit from the Brown side. I think we just found another apprentice for you Darth.
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Post by machination on Dec 5, 2018 8:33:34 GMT -5
It’s a seniority list!!!!!!! It’s in order of seniority. That’s how you can check to see were you are! Last 4 of social ranks seniority order for people with the same hire date.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 5, 2018 9:34:24 GMT -5
It’s a seniority list!!!!!!! It’s in order of seniority. That’s how you can check to see were you are! Last 4 of social ranks seniority order for people with the same hire date. Exactly Machy.BUT I’m higher on that list than people with lower SSN???Help Master Word Twister!!
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