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Aug 17, 2019 11:25:15 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Aug 17, 2019 11:25:15 GMT -5
Your statement is so correct "thisplacesux". If plantworker with his vast experience and decades of seniority under his belt doesn't get out from where he is, then that speaks volumes of the truth behind all his quotes. How many plants have you worked at again Plantworker? It’s like anytime you transfer to a plant you must do your time and wait and eventually you will end up on something decent. Obviously you have never had to transfer since you don’t fully understand how it works. |
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Post by beenaround on Aug 17, 2019 13:09:18 GMT -5
Your statement is so correct "thisplacesux". If plantworker with his vast experience and decades of seniority under his belt doesn't get out from where he is, then that speaks volumes of the truth behind all his quotes. How many plants have you worked at again Plantworker? It’s like anytime you transfer to a plant you must do your time and wait and eventually you will end up on something decent. Obviously you have never had to transfer since you don’t fully understand how it works. AS a matter of fact I have worked at 3 different Ford plants. Yes I understand the wait period. Guess what I don't understand is your jealousy over other parts of the plant when you supposedly will be able to better your position when the wait period is over. Suck it up buttercup!!! |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Aug 17, 2019 13:23:50 GMT -5
It’s like anytime you transfer to a plant you must do your time and wait and eventually you will end up on something decent. Obviously you have never had to transfer since you don’t fully understand how it works. AS a matter of fact I have worked at 3 different Ford plants. Yes I understand the wait period. Guess what I don't understand is your jealousy over other parts of the plant when you supposedly will be able to better your position when the wait period is over. Suck it up buttercup!!! You sure read into stuff Jealous??? Haha Was stating a fact about jobs being overloaded Union dropped the ball on that one You sound like a union rep What area you cover |
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Aug 17, 2019 14:14:55 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 17, 2019 14:14:55 GMT -5
Your statement is so correct "thisplacesux". If plantworker with his vast experience and decades of seniority under his belt doesn't get out from where he is, then that speaks volumes of the truth behind all his quotes. How many plants have you worked at again Plantworker? You joke but this plant takes the prize for overloaded jobs! Maybe that’s why we have 1000s, of transplants,and why yalls plants closed?(Except for LAP Which didn’t close but we get transfers)?And just maybe KTP is thee only plant that keeps YOU having a job.Not sayin just sayin. |
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Post by dieseldawg on Aug 17, 2019 14:21:06 GMT -5
Depends on where youre at plantworker2019. If youre in P-trim or the majority of U-trim.. of course. Welcome to the shit show lol. Chassis and Frame may be a step above but not by much. |
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Post by beenaround on Aug 17, 2019 16:52:05 GMT -5
All 3 plants I have worked at are still in operation today.
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Post by beenaround on Aug 17, 2019 16:53:08 GMT -5
AS a matter of fact I have worked at 3 different Ford plants. Yes I understand the wait period. Guess what I don't understand is your jealousy over other parts of the plant when you supposedly will be able to better your position when the wait period is over. Suck it up buttercup!!! You sure read into stuff Jealous??? Haha Was stating a fact about jobs being overloaded Union dropped the ball on that one You sound like a union rep What area you cover Nope! |
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Aug 17, 2019 17:34:57 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Aug 17, 2019 17:34:57 GMT -5
You joke but this plant takes the prize for overloaded jobs! Maybe that’s why we have 1000s, of transplants,and why yalls plants closed?(Except for LAP Which didn’t close but we get transfers)?And just maybe KTP is thee only plant that keeps YOU having a job.Not sayin just sayin. Naw they closed plants due to location nothing to do with how jobs were set up |
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Aug 17, 2019 18:10:21 GMT -5
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Aug 17, 2019 18:10:21 GMT -5
Maybe that’s why we have 1000s, of transplants,and why yalls plants closed?(Except for LAP Which didn’t close but we get transfers)?And just maybe KTP is thee only plant that keeps YOU having a job.Not sayin just sayin. Naw they closed plants due to location nothing to do with how jobs were set up Its amazing what some of these people believe and these people are legacy workers lmao |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Aug 17, 2019 19:51:42 GMT -5
Naw they closed plants due to location nothing to do with how jobs were set up Its amazing what some of these people believe and these people are legacy workers lmao I know to think somebody would have the mindset if we let the company overload jobs they will not close the plant. But this mindset is coming from the #1 money making plant in the ford system and would only close if Ford went under, you would think this plant the union could have not let jobs be overloaded and not took away bid jobs that are jobs for high seniority and turned them into team transfer jobs and department transfers. The local union sold its members out. I guess look at the bright side, I’ll have to look at that later all I see right now is another unit headed my way with 5 minutes worth of work to do in 2 minutes |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 17, 2019 20:09:59 GMT -5
Its amazing what some of these people believe and these people are legacy workers lmao I know to think somebody would have the mindset if we let the company overload jobs they will not close the plant. But this mindset is coming from the #1 money making plant in the ford system and would only close if Ford went under, you would think this plant the union could have not let jobs be overloaded and not took away bid jobs that are jobs for high seniority and turned them into team transfer jobs and department transfers. The local union sold its members out. I guess look at the bright side, I’ll have to look at that later all I see right now is another unit headed my way with 5 minutes worth of work to do in 2 minutes Just shut down the line.Ive fought many jobs.All you have to do is have the balls to stick with it.Theyll move you.Cant Fire ya! |
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Aug 17, 2019 20:12:17 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 17, 2019 20:12:17 GMT -5
Maybe that’s why we have 1000s, of transplants,and why yalls plants closed?(Except for LAP Which didn’t close but we get transfers)?And just maybe KTP is thee only plant that keeps YOU having a job.Not sayin just sayin. Naw they closed plants due to location nothing to do with how jobs were set up Na.The local caved and let them Close.Plus workers cried a lot .Then Come here And say how tough their local is?There is no local.Your plant close!!hahaha.Yep that’s a tough local😆😆😆😆 |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Aug 17, 2019 20:26:58 GMT -5
I know to think somebody would have the mindset if we let the company overload jobs they will not close the plant. But this mindset is coming from the #1 money making plant in the ford system and would only close if Ford went under, you would think this plant the union could have not let jobs be overloaded and not took away bid jobs that are jobs for high seniority and turned them into team transfer jobs and department transfers. The local union sold its members out. I guess look at the bright side, I’ll have to look at that later all I see right now is another unit headed my way with 5 minutes worth of work to do in 2 minutes Just shut down the line.Ive fought many jobs.All you have to do is have the balls to stick with it.Theyll move you.Cant Fire ya! Already been moved 3 times They just put a temp on the job I’d rather stay and fight it but like you say they just move you cause they know your right and have no where to move the work cause all the other jobs are maxed out and then some. |
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Aug 17, 2019 20:38:47 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 17, 2019 20:38:47 GMT -5
Just shut down the line.Ive fought many jobs.All you have to do is have the balls to stick with it.Theyll move you.Cant Fire ya! Already been moved 3 times They just put a temp on the job I’d rather stay and fight it but like you say they just move you cause they know your right and have no where to move the work cause all the other jobs are maxed out and then some. Guess just lay in there and get it then. |
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Aug 17, 2019 21:50:47 GMT -5
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Post by entitlednewhire on Aug 17, 2019 21:50:47 GMT -5
Already been moved 3 times They just put a temp on the job I’d rather stay and fight it but like you say they just move you cause they know your right and have no where to move the work cause all the other jobs are maxed out and then some. Guess just lay in there and get it then. if your a transfer..like me and won't do a shit job...your the reason we have so many temps.....it will bite you in the ass |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 18, 2019 7:17:45 GMT -5
Guess just lay in there and get it then. if your a transfer..like me and won't do a shit job...your the reason we have so many temps.....it will bite you in the ass If you have 24yrs in and you’re gonna retire during this contract you really don’t care about shit jobs,temps,overloaded jobs,transfers,etc🙂🙂🙂 |
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Post by dieseldawg on Aug 18, 2019 7:57:52 GMT -5
Then I guess the real topic at hand here is which dept's are all these people thinking about retirement come contract in? Body, Paint, Stamping? Do your homework ppl and put your dept transfers in asap. There will be bid jobs opening up soon as well. Patience.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 18, 2019 9:15:12 GMT -5
Then I guess the real topic at hand here is which dept's are all these people thinking about retirement come contract in? Body, Paint, Stamping? Do your homework ppl and put your dept transfers in asap. There will be bid jobs opening up soon as well. Patience. Yep.Paint,Body.My friend in stamping says it’s all newbies and they run their ass off?But we are at 2012 Seniority now to hold days in Body.Lots of newbies getting moved to B,C crew courtesy of Lap folks. |
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Post by dieseldawg on Aug 18, 2019 15:41:44 GMT -5
A lot of the 1st wave Lap guys who come over had 20-25 years, they went to body after a week or so in Trim. The rest of the Lap ppl have 2012 seniority from my understanding. They'll land on their feet just gotta lay in there for a few more months.
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Aug 18, 2019 17:38:10 GMT -5
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Aug 18, 2019 17:38:10 GMT -5
Then I guess the real topic at hand here is which dept's are all these people thinking about retirement come contract in? Body, Paint, Stamping? Do your homework ppl and put your dept transfers in asap. There will be bid jobs opening up soon as well. Patience. Yep.Paint,Body.My friend in stamping says it’s all newbies and they run their ass off?But we are at 2012 Seniority now to hold days in Body.Lots of newbies getting moved to B,C crew courtesy of Lap folks. Aint NO newbies running their asses off in stamping. ALL the jobs there should be BIDS |
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Aug 18, 2019 18:21:26 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 18, 2019 18:21:26 GMT -5
Yep.Paint,Body.My friend in stamping says it’s all newbies and they run their ass off?But we are at 2012 Seniority now to hold days in Body.Lots of newbies getting moved to B,C crew courtesy of Lap folks. Aint NO newbies running their asses off in stamping. ALL the jobs there should be BIDS Bids?My buddy is a metal finisher.Thats about the only bids there are except stock.I have the seniority sheet with jobs on it if you wanna see it. |
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Post by blackbird66 on Aug 18, 2019 20:06:34 GMT -5
Aint NO newbies running their asses off in stamping. ALL the jobs there should be BIDS Bids?My buddy is a metal finisher.Thats about the only bids there are except stock.I have the seniority sheet with jobs on it if you wanna see it. I think he intended to say that they all SHOULD be bid jobs. And it is true, no one really runs their tail of here in stamping. |
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Aug 18, 2019 20:24:37 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 18, 2019 20:24:37 GMT -5
Bids?My buddy is a metal finisher.Thats about the only bids there are except stock.I have the seniority sheet with jobs on it if you wanna see it. I think he intended to say that they all SHOULD be bid jobs. And it is true, no one really runs their tail of here in stamping. Cool .I guess my friend of 24yrs has forgotten what it’s like ? |
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Post by blackbird66 on Aug 18, 2019 20:47:42 GMT -5
I think he intended to say that they all SHOULD be bid jobs. And it is true, no one really runs their tail of here in stamping. Cool .I guess my friend of 24yrs has forgotten what it’s like ? Given the extremely high % of bad parts stamping produces, a repair job might not be very good. On the other hand, those guys are ingesting a large amount of aluminum dust, and knowing the strong link between aluminum and Alzheimer’s, he may well have also forgotten what it is like on the line...... |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 19, 2019 5:22:58 GMT -5
Cool .I guess my friend of 24yrs has forgotten what it’s like ? Given the extremely high % of bad parts stamping produces, a repair job might not be very good. On the other hand, those guys are ingesting a large amount of aluminum dust, and knowing the strong link between aluminum and Alzheimer’s, he may well have also forgotten what it is like on the line...... That’s true.Yep.Guess you’re right |
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Post by nra4life on Aug 19, 2019 7:04:10 GMT -5
Imagine a job where you use no tools and you don’t have to fool with stock. That’s stamping. Not sure who is telling you they are killing themselves over there but they are lying tonyou
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 19, 2019 8:35:36 GMT -5
Imagine a job where you use no tools and you don’t have to fool with stock. That’s stamping. Not sure who is telling you they are killing themselves over there but they are lying tonyou Not so much lying I’d guess but 1) guy was a TL in trim for 18 yrs before he went so i see his misconception,2nd guy said it’s all newbies and the run their asses off and do whatever they’re told,3) guy has a metal job and said they run .? So when/did you work stamping?Whats it like? |
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Aug 19, 2019 13:20:08 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Aug 19, 2019 13:20:08 GMT -5
Imagine a job where you use no tools and you don’t have to fool with stock. That’s stamping. Not sure who is telling you they are killing themselves over there but they are lying tonyou Not so much lying I’d guess but 1) guy was a TL in trim for 18 yrs before he went so i see his misconception,2nd guy said it’s all newbies and the run their asses off and do whatever they’re told,3) guy has a metal job and said they run .? So when/did you work stamping?Whats it like? So what seniority does it take to hold days in Super Duty body. I’d ask a rep but not sure if my area even has one. |
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Aug 19, 2019 13:42:08 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 19, 2019 13:42:08 GMT -5
Not so much lying I’d guess but 1) guy was a TL in trim for 18 yrs before he went so i see his misconception,2nd guy said it’s all newbies and the run their asses off and do whatever they’re told,3) guy has a metal job and said they run .? So when/did you work stamping?Whats it like? So what seniority does it take to hold days in Super Duty body. I’d ask a rep but not sure if my area even has one. Not sure on month but 90% sure it’s 2012 |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Aug 19, 2019 14:41:09 GMT -5
So what seniority does it take to hold days in Super Duty body. I’d ask a rep but not sure if my area even has one. Not sure on month but 90% sure it’s 2012 Damn all these low seniority I’ve noticed have never really had to spend time on the line |
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