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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Oct 26, 2019 4:26:37 GMT -5
I see a clear path for everything We are very blessed 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 I'm voting no, sorry. |
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Oct 26, 2019 5:47:35 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 26, 2019 5:47:35 GMT -5
I see a clear path for everything We are very blessed 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 I'm voting no, sorry. Just remember the path leads to greater things Money money money lol |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 26, 2019 6:35:59 GMT -5
Just remember the path leads to greater things Money money money lol What are we voting on?Ford hasn’t even told us the highlights.Could be quite different...NO |
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Post by antbanks on Oct 26, 2019 7:08:02 GMT -5
Don't let the signing bonus make your decision.
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Oct 26, 2019 7:20:55 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 26, 2019 7:20:55 GMT -5
Exactly!And don’t expect 11000,I see Ford saying no to a couple things here.But what do I know?Nothing
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 26, 2019 7:39:43 GMT -5
GM passed 53%? It’s looking like a 51%-49% vote for us.😂
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Oct 26, 2019 11:11:57 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 26, 2019 11:11:57 GMT -5
Don't let the signing bonus make your decision. In all my years That signing bonus seals the deal I’d like to see Ford throw in a new vehicle of your choice with the signing bonus |
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Post by dieseldawg on Oct 26, 2019 15:52:44 GMT -5
theres not even a contract to vote on yet lol. Bur if i were a GM employee i would have votes no all day. Without written guarantees for future work it's a sell out. That money and health wont matter much when youre out of a job...
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Oct 26, 2019 19:34:53 GMT -5
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Post by agslater on Oct 26, 2019 19:34:53 GMT -5
Fords offer is going to be shit compared to GM's shit deal. NO
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Oct 26, 2019 19:37:00 GMT -5
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Post by agslater on Oct 26, 2019 19:37:00 GMT -5
I could see very small raises, no in progression shortening and no temp hires. Nowhere near 11000 signing bonus
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Oct 26, 2019 20:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by antbanks on Oct 26, 2019 20:37:14 GMT -5
Will we see only the highlights or the whole contract? Voting no, if only highlights.
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Post by dieselfan on Oct 27, 2019 8:47:20 GMT -5
DO NOT cast a vote until you see the white pages and read them. There was language in GM's contract that states after 90 days "The National partys are authorized to make modification and adjustments as necessary". They also crossed out/voided language that read "Full time temporary employees will not be hired at a plant where there are laid off seniority employees within the area hire. Temporary opportunities may be provided to laid off seniority employees". To me, if they can change the contract at will, its not a contract. That language only should be a red flag and an automatic NO vote!
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 27, 2019 9:12:55 GMT -5
The senior employee SHOULD get worked before a temp
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Post by oldguy1 on Oct 27, 2019 22:07:57 GMT -5
If we cant see the contract in its entirety , they are hiding something. No full contract viewing , a NO vote for me...
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Post by beenaround on Oct 28, 2019 6:57:28 GMT -5
If I am not mistaken most "Contracts" have been called living documents for a very good while now. This enables them to change whatever they like whenever it is deemed necessary. Both parties still have to agree though.
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Oct 28, 2019 13:39:51 GMT -5
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Post by agslater on Oct 28, 2019 13:39:51 GMT -5
More u.s. employees and less profit than GM. Strike is coming
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Post by tiger66 on Oct 28, 2019 15:32:57 GMT -5
Contract is already 99% done. No strike
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Post by tiger66 on Oct 28, 2019 15:35:59 GMT -5
We went 1o+ years without a raise. Last contract we got raises and this one offers raises with no healthcare increases. I don’t know why people want to strike.
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Oct 28, 2019 16:01:30 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 28, 2019 16:01:30 GMT -5
We went 1o+ years without a raise. Last contract we got raises and this one offers raises with no healthcare increases. I don’t know why people want to strike. That’s GMs contract |
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Post by tiger66 on Oct 28, 2019 16:09:29 GMT -5
Ours will be damn close
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 28, 2019 16:14:52 GMT -5
Maybe..?I don’t expect the same bonus,or them giving into the temps or top pay in 4 yrs.And I hope health benefits don’t change.Not sure on the 3,4,3,4 either..So strike is a strong possibility |
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Post by tiger66 on Oct 28, 2019 16:51:18 GMT -5
Ok
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Post by harleykat77 on Oct 29, 2019 8:28:41 GMT -5
Voting Yes also,as long as our insurance doesnt change,that's all I'm worried about,I make enough.
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Oct 29, 2019 10:24:32 GMT -5
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Oct 29, 2019 10:24:32 GMT -5
Ford can't afford a strike like GM. If we do strike it wont last long. Ford family runs the business unlike GM & FCA are run by investors. Ford has investors too but the Ford family makes the calls.....we are not gonna get as big as signing bonus & if we do it will be part of our profit sharing.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 29, 2019 10:25:31 GMT -5
If we don’t get same insurance,3,4,3,4 and at least 8000 bonus it’s a no.No raises for 11 yrs while IUAW was being bought off to keep themselves happy?Fuck that.We deserve more.Ford makes a KILLING on these temps and new hires.I want mine!Gonna retire soon and then won’t give a shit.Till then I want more.👍🏼
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Post by nra4life on Oct 29, 2019 10:41:36 GMT -5
If we don’t get same insurance,3,4,3,4 and at least 8000 bonus it’s a no.No raises for 11 yrs while IUAW was being bought off to keep themselves happy?Fuck that.We deserve more.Ford makes a KILLING on these temps and new hires.I want mine!Gonna retire soon and then won’t give a shit.Till then I want more.👍🏼 Anything less than a $3.50 and hour raise keeps us below what we have given up in just COLA raises. Based on cola we make less now than we did 10 years ago |
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Oct 29, 2019 13:41:15 GMT -5
Honestly I would be happy to see the retirees get a raise because that's gonna be us soon. These newbies could care less about retirees because they're not getting a pension.
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Post by agslater on Oct 29, 2019 14:54:23 GMT -5
Honestly I would be happy to see the retirees get a raise because that's gonna be us soon. These newbies could care less about retirees because they're not getting a pension. Yeah and if your 25 years from retiring everything will change by then. We care about in progression rates, insurance, and hopefully they offer some kind of buyout for the old folks. |
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Oct 29, 2019 15:01:22 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 29, 2019 15:01:22 GMT -5
I care about myself.I have 24.5 .Give me my money.Or buy me out
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Oct 29, 2019 16:06:04 GMT -5
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Post by ktpframeking on Oct 29, 2019 16:06:04 GMT -5
I’m voting YES. I want that sweet sign on bonus !!!!
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