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Post by nra4life on Oct 30, 2019 20:04:12 GMT -5
Full details tomorrow but a deal is done.
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Post by fordman3 on Oct 30, 2019 20:45:55 GMT -5
Full details tomorrow but a deal is done. Where did you read it was releasing full details tomorrow? I see everyone saying friday
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Post by thisplacesux on Oct 30, 2019 20:59:15 GMT -5
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Oct 30, 2019 22:07:43 GMT -5
The meth heads will all vote yes
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Post by fordman3 on Oct 30, 2019 22:12:15 GMT -5
The meth heads will all vote yes Why? Because Meth heads don't know how to say no? LMAO
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Post by ktpframeking on Oct 31, 2019 0:53:02 GMT -5
The meth heads will all vote yes Why? Because Meth heads don't know how to say no? LMAO Gots to get my hands on that sign on bonus so I can buy up the good crack rock
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Post by agslater on Oct 31, 2019 1:44:29 GMT -5
Ktp frame king is like the people I have to deal with nightly. B Crew frame line is like the san quentin of KTP
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Post by antbanks on Oct 31, 2019 4:45:01 GMT -5
Don't let the SIGNING BONUS make your decision.
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Post by pmooret on Oct 31, 2019 5:23:46 GMT -5
If they do not raise the LIB/Life Income Benefit on our pension it is a big no for me. We haven't had a raise to our retirement in 12 yrs. Also, a raise for the current retirees is long overdue. I want to see this in the highlights, if it's not in there then it didn't happen.
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Post by ktpframeking on Oct 31, 2019 5:33:01 GMT -5
Ktp frame king is like the people I have to deal with nightly. B Crew frame line is like the san quentin of KTP Actually it’s a lot more like Pelican Bay. I should know. I did a nickel there back in 88.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 31, 2019 12:36:10 GMT -5
Romeo engine plant closing!600 to be displaced..
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Oct 31, 2019 14:27:44 GMT -5
$9,000 signing bonus, sorry, still a no vote from me.
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Post by thisplacesux on Oct 31, 2019 14:41:02 GMT -5
$9,000 signing bonus, sorry, still a no vote from me. Me too...
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Post by ktpframeking on Oct 31, 2019 14:58:41 GMT -5
You old Boomers ain’t voting NO. You don’t be fooling nobody
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 31, 2019 16:44:42 GMT -5
Guaranteed a no.9000= 5400 clear Big deal!Also heard they agreed to “Contain” our insurance?Wtf does that mean?Bet the 3,4,3,4 is different too.Looking like 51-49% pass
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Post by remember1976 on Nov 1, 2019 2:04:09 GMT -5
So how long are you willing to strike for an extra $2000? Asking for a friend.
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Post by beenaround on Nov 1, 2019 2:48:47 GMT -5
$1,200.00 after taxes.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 1, 2019 5:24:10 GMT -5
So how long are you willing to strike for an extra $2000? Asking for a friend. 3,4,3,4 Same insurance,11,000,3 yrs to top pay(like we had)temps hired in 90 days(like we had)get that I’ll vote yes if not it’s a no.Not worried about length of strike I have large nest egg and a welding business.Tell your friend that..PS AND A RAISE FOR THE RETIREES.As Gary Jones faces NEW corruption charges!No wonder we didn’t raises for 11 yrs..Pay off SMFH.Think of the money FORD HAS POCKETED WITH TEMPS AND IN TRANSITION hires?
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Post by nra4life on Nov 1, 2019 8:05:58 GMT -5
So how long are you willing to strike for an extra $2000? Asking for a friend. The better question would be how many billions are they willing to lose over $100 million? ($2k x 50k employees) Sometimes in life you have to take a stand. Seems like a good time as any, at least to me. I will vote no until they agree to a yearly wage increase, they can keep the signing bonuses, give me my cash by the hour. Everyone has their own issues and thoughts, those or mine. Stay safe people.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 1, 2019 8:14:06 GMT -5
Yearly raises are by far the best.Think if ALL OUR rate of pay if we wold of gotten our raises as scheduled.Remember “when Ford is productive again we will give back concessions” handout?
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Post by since1993 on Nov 1, 2019 9:01:13 GMT -5
Never ever see those things.......UAW is so corrupt and crooked, they laugh at us while “negotiating “ . Big money for those at top , crumbs to those at the bottom. UAW doesn’t want to cripple the Big 3 or they’d be somewhat “real “ in the strike benefit pay. They know most can’t survive on the 250-275 it’s just a big dog and pony show. Take our union dues and use it to fight for our rights and stick all that political BS money they continually waste on all their BS “joint” programs . Mickey Mouse raises and NOTHING for retirees is shameful . But guess what , big boys get their double dip retirement at our expense.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 1, 2019 10:00:17 GMT -5
31% raise for salaried IUAW in June 2018 PLUS ALL THE HUSH MONEY THEY GET.Now we get 3,4,3,4 and 2 a lump sums?
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Post by since1993 on Nov 1, 2019 13:04:44 GMT -5
International should be elected by the entire membership !!!!! Period
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Post by harleykat77 on Nov 1, 2019 13:45:22 GMT -5
Yes vote from me,I have my pay and dont pay for insurance,unless if u count the $ 70+ a month for union dews. Could care less about retirees,because non of u fucks care about us. The union is going down hill regardless of what we do,we would have to strike for months to get the shit u all want. It wont happen,the UAW wont allow it. So vote yes and enjoy the amazing job u have.
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Post by beenaround on Nov 1, 2019 14:08:29 GMT -5
Yes vote from me,I have my pay and dont pay for insurance,unless if u count the $ 70+ a month for union dews. Could care less about retirees,because non of u fucks care about us. The union is going down hill regardless of what we do,we would have to strike for months to get the shit u all want. It wont happen,the UAW wont allow it. So vote yes and enjoy the amazing job u have. Sheesh!! Guess you haven't looked up the definition of solidarity lately.
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Post by ktpregular on Nov 1, 2019 14:19:45 GMT -5
Yes vote from me,I have my pay and dont pay for insurance,unless if u count the $ 70+ a month for union dews. Could care less about retirees,because non of u fucks care about us. The union is going down hill regardless of what we do,we would have to strike for months to get the shit u all want. It wont happen,the UAW wont allow it. So vote yes and enjoy the amazing job u have. Sheesh!! Guess you haven't looked up the definition of solidarity lately.
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Post by ktpregular on Nov 1, 2019 14:23:48 GMT -5
Yes vote from me,I have my pay and dont pay for insurance,unless if u count the $ 70+ a month for union dews. Could care less about retirees,because non of u fucks care about us. The union is going down hill regardless of what we do,we would have to strike for months to get the shit u all want. It wont happen,the UAW wont allow it. So vote yes and enjoy the amazing job u have. Sheesh!! Guess you haven't looked up the definition of solidarity lately. This comment makes you look like one of the meth heads working here. Solidarity, learn the word and quit talking dumb shit.
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Post by 2011tier2 on Nov 1, 2019 14:33:33 GMT -5
I’m not going to say I’m for or against the TA until seeing it. It’s all speculation as of this moment.
While I’m thankful for the workers in the past that helped fight for what we have today, I’m not really concerned about them getting anything more that what they agreed to and were promised at their retirement.
As for legacy folks getting pension increases, which I don’t see happening at all, I think the best aim and focus would be for y’all to shoot for some percentage of Ford contribution to your Tesphe.
Once most all of the egacy folks retire, likely during or right after this upcoming contract, I think at that point we’ll have to fight for some kind of medical benefit after retirement, but that’s a fight for the future when the majority of the workforce is on more equal ground.
I’m 3weeks away from reaching my 8yr hire date/Traditional Wage. Its taken me 8yrs as of now. I was weeks away from converting to Legacy rate this time 4yrs ago under the 80/20 rule. If they are able to lower the pay progression to 4yrs, I’m all for it for the future employees. I’d be a bit bitter about having to wait twice the time as them, but I cannot change the past.
Most of us I’d have to say, if we’re honest, only REALLY care about what “my needs” are. I’m no different, but realize that in this extremely divisive political age, there are few things that have the opportunity to bring people together from a variety of cultural, religious, and political affiliations than what our union has. The diversity of the membership can have many valid reasons and ideas that can benefit most of us if we’re able to actually listen to them. The UAW has to broaden its political affiliations beyond the full-throated support of a single political party if the union is to succeed in these times. The UAW (us as well) need to be about succinct and clear ideas that benefit us regardless of which party or whom they come from. It won’t be easy, but anything worthwhile never comes without pain and struggle.
As for the iUAW, the corruption at the top MUST be eliminated first and foremost. Like mentioned above, all the IUAW positions need to be elected by the membership. Term limits for every elected position, but with a total years of service in elected office to be capped. These changes alone should address and account for the corruption under federal focus right now.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 1, 2019 14:37:41 GMT -5
Yes vote from me,I have my pay and dont pay for insurance,unless if u count the $ 70+ a month for union dews. Could care less about retirees,because non of u fucks care about us. The union is going down hill regardless of what we do,we would have to strike for months to get the shit u all want. It wont happen,the UAW wont allow it. So vote yes and enjoy the amazing job u have.[/quote Yes for me if we get 3,4,3,4 9000 insurance the same,keep under class at 8yrs and tell temps”I hired you for temp work there may be a chance for full time but I can’t read future”Do you want the job?
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Post by dieseldawg on Nov 1, 2019 17:11:08 GMT -5
Yes vote from me,I have my pay and dont pay for insurance,unless if u count the $ 70+ a month for union dews. Could care less about retirees,because non of u fucks care about us. The union is going down hill regardless of what we do,we would have to strike for months to get the shit u all want. It wont happen,the UAW wont allow it. So vote yes and enjoy the amazing job u have. What a turd. Turds get flushed.
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