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Post by Ex-metalman on Mar 28, 2020 17:12:21 GMT -5
My question is this.If a plant closes and we go to 2 shifts then a miracle happens and we add C crew won’t the senior members from other plant get to come to KTP?
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Post by tiger66 on Mar 28, 2020 17:15:10 GMT -5
2 shifts lost is a very good possibility.
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Post by lapwasktp on Mar 28, 2020 17:18:58 GMT -5
Bro. It’s supply and demand. Don’t expect demand to hit again until the middle or end of the 3 quarter of his year. That’s August / September time. There are a lot of jobs that are not coming back for now or ever. Many businesses will close as demand doesn’t bounce back for their service ** I don’t see a C crew needed anywhere at any plant that Ford is the owner. Not trying to be a downer. U want to see the order bank go down to hardly anything? Well, here’s your chance. Grab your ass boy’s and girls, it’s going to get interesting. Just saying. ((Hoping I’m wrong.))
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Mar 28, 2020 17:27:27 GMT -5
My question is this.If a plant closes and we go to 2 shifts then a miracle happens and we add C crew won’t the senior members from other plant get to come to KTP? Legacy can bump in-progression in-zone in a reduction of force. LAP is not going to shutdown right now. Lose a shift maybe but the escape is not being built anywhere else. But the answer to your question is yes if they don't transfer somewhere else & just hang out & wait for an opening.....I could be wrong tho |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Mar 28, 2020 17:37:58 GMT -5
Sad for them..Like I said I’ll gladly retire and let a young person with kids and a family have my job..It Wont take much !
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Post by tiger66 on Mar 28, 2020 17:45:47 GMT -5
If we have legacy laid off nobody can transfer in yes?
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Mar 28, 2020 17:50:26 GMT -5
If we have legacy laid off nobody can transfer in yes? Considered in-zone it'll go by seniority if lap & ktp have legacy on layoff. |
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Mar 28, 2020 17:54:16 GMT -5
But hey what do I know I'm not 100% on any of that. Hopefully it won't come to that but its definitely gonna be a rough ride
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Post by tiger66 on Mar 28, 2020 17:59:17 GMT -5
I thought the language was there had to be a job opening for anybody to come into our plant. Maybe I wrong. I usually am
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Mar 28, 2020 18:16:11 GMT -5
I thought the language was there had to be a job opening for anybody to come into our plant. Maybe I wrong. I usually am You might be right I'm not sure on any of that. I do remember reading legacy can bump out in-progression. I don't think any legacy will be laid off at LAP unless they close the plant & that's not happening right now. A lot of in-progression employees between both plants |
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Post by 2011tier2 on Mar 29, 2020 16:13:08 GMT -5
Heard from a teammate with a solid source(gave the exact dates of the 1st day off from a few weeks ago a week in advance) saying we’re not going back till May at the earliest. Congress bill adds $600 to our unemployment through June, so financially it isn’t terrible. Definitely glad I kept my profit sharing though....was gonna pay off my divorce debt credit card in one online click, but just gonna hold onto that cash for a few months until seeing the near-term fallout.
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Post by ihatemyjob on Mar 29, 2020 16:28:37 GMT -5
Lots of speculation in this thread. We don’t know what sales are actually going to be like. I talked to a dealer the last 2 fridays and both times he told me sales had been busy each week. People are liking the rebates and low interest rates. Not every state has closed dealerships
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Mar 29, 2020 16:34:01 GMT -5
Lots of speculation in this thread. We don’t know what sales are actually going to be like. I talked to a dealer the last 2 fridays and both times he told me sales had been busy each week. People are liking the rebates and low interest rates. Not every state has closed dealerships It's all speculation and nobody will know anything til we see order numbers or a sales report but they are predicting auto sales to drop a few million compared to last year. It's not rocket science look what is happing here & around the world. Businesses closed, people out of work,...etc |
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Post by thisplacesux on Mar 29, 2020 16:45:03 GMT -5
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Mar 30, 2020 8:21:12 GMT -5
See yall sometime in mid to late May,... maybe.
Stay safe folks.
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Post by thintwowin on Mar 30, 2020 9:11:56 GMT -5
Trump said shut it all down till April 30th now. I expect another 2 weeks off, just my opinion. We will rotate down weeks until the end of the year before they cut a crew, again just my opinion.
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Mar 30, 2020 11:10:54 GMT -5
Trump said shut it all down till April 30th now. I expect another 2 weeks off, just my opinion. We will rotate down weeks until the end of the year before they cut a crew, again just my opinion. I don't think they'll rotate down weeks that long |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Mar 30, 2020 11:18:21 GMT -5
Right it will be 1 shift
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Mar 30, 2020 11:58:57 GMT -5
Did you all go to 1 shift during the 2008 crisis? |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Mar 30, 2020 13:02:28 GMT -5
No..A little bit different from my perspective.Not EVERYONE in the USA was laid off or affected by the 08 crash.Hope we don’t go to a single shift.
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Mar 30, 2020 13:17:44 GMT -5
No..A little bit different from my perspective.Not EVERYONE in the USA was laid off or affected by the 08 crash.Hope we don’t go to a single shift. I don't either! I won't lose my bid job but I really dont want to work days |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Mar 30, 2020 13:24:31 GMT -5
I hear ya.I would hate to see a massive layoff.Sad for the up and coming folks.I guess only time will tell.Stay safe
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Mar 30, 2020 19:44:56 GMT -5
KTP and LAP are the same zone. One of these 2 plants would have to close in order to be able and bump someone from the opposite plant. So if KTP were to lose 2 shifts, the senior people couldn't bump anybody from LAP and vice versa. Not gonna happen at either plant though. Y'all need to stop stressing these newbies out so much. I didn't like it done to me when I was still wet behind the ears.
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Mar 30, 2020 19:59:38 GMT -5
KTP and LAP are the same zone. One of these 2 plants would have to close in order to be able and bump someone from the opposite plant. So if KTP were to lose 2 shifts, the senior people couldn't bump anybody from LAP and vice versa. Not gonna happen at either plant though. Y'all need to stop stressing these newbies out so much. I didn't like it done to me when I was still wet behind the ears. Give me a break, stressed out? They are mad as hell about the announcement of the shutdown weeks being pushed back. They are more worried about the petty shit and besides they all think its gonna be balls to wall when we go back. For their sake I hope they are right |
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Post by 2011tier2 on Mar 31, 2020 6:12:44 GMT -5
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Post by beaner on Mar 31, 2020 7:58:13 GMT -5
May 11. A crew only.
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