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Post by nascarfan08 on Jul 11, 2020 16:57:24 GMT -5
I've put my time in and seen a lot of stuff....but this I will tell you... We are about to lose a CREW. Is this a rumor...NO....the writing is on the damn WALL. The work ethic and integrity of doing what you got to do to make a living is PISS POOR at KTP. This all started when they LOWERED THEIR STANDARDS IN WHO THEY HIRED....its FORD'S FAULT!!!! You get what you pay for!!! All us Legacy's know the story....the "KNOW IT ALL" new hires....WELL. you about to find out. And NO>>>>I want to stay on my 4 day work week....retire in 3 years and say ADIOS....but damn I see a 5 day work week and OT shoved up my ass....When we Legacy's are gone.....KTP will be DONE!!!! Truth!!!
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Post by thisplacesux on Jul 11, 2020 19:01:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 19:55:30 GMT -5
So people with less time and nothing to gain supposed to risk their life for a dirty plant that hasn't cleaned anything and has covid cases because you want to have a good last 3 years before retirement!You old timers need to retire and stop worrying about what ford got going on all y'all talk about is how long you been there who cares you must don't have nothing saved since you so worried.
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Post by nascarfan08 on Jul 11, 2020 20:38:59 GMT -5
Overit....let's keep it real....a large majority of new hires weren't coming in to work before the Covid outbreak. If it wasn't for the Pandemic YOU (and I mean NOT ALL but a lot of newer hires) still wouldn't show up for work. The AWOL problem was going on long before this....FORD has always had somewhat of an attendance problem....but not to the extent it is now. I've NEVER seen it so bad that each week we have to shut down parts of the plant and loan out folks because they can't run. But....yeah...you crying about the "dirty plant"...is that why you don't come to work??? Or is it because you really don't have it in you to be FORD TOUGH....I'm betting the latter. MAN UP kiddos...go to your Union meetings, raise hell and ask for better working conditions when you see things aren't acceptable...educate yourselves and run for a Union position to represent your fellow brother/sister....the whole thing boils down to folks don't know what work is about. And remember this kiddo....you chose to work at FORD....don't like it....move along....simple as that...
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Post by nascarfan08 on Jul 11, 2020 20:43:12 GMT -5
Oh and OverIt you're one of the "PARTICIPATION TROPHY" generation....move along dude....
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Post by sparked1 on Jul 11, 2020 20:56:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't doubt the plant goes to two shifts. A lot of jobs in both body shops can be converted to a robot and probably a few other areas as well. That'll keep us skilled trades busy.
I hate to see people lose a job but a lot of shit is self inflicted.
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Post by ktpframeking on Jul 11, 2020 22:52:17 GMT -5
NASCAR is right. Our last few years here are going to be pretty much like our first few. 11 hours x 5 days a week and lots of Saturdays. It will be interesting to see what happens at KTP in the next 5 years after most of the 93-95 hires are gone. I can see it get to where 75% of the plant has FMLA and most people will only work 1250 hours a year. I think Ford is gonna be the big loser. What are they gonna do move ? Move where ! The PT generation is everywhere. Yeah it’s gonna suck old timers but like we use to say “ lay in there and get it “. I’m gonna save like I never saved before. Who knows what will become of our pension.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 12, 2020 9:18:18 GMT -5
So people with less time and nothing to gain supposed to risk their life for a dirty plant that hasn't cleaned anything and has covid cases because you want to have a good last 3 years before retirement!You old timers need to retire and stop worrying about what ford got going on all y'all talk about is how long you been there who cares you must don't have nothing saved since you so worried. That’s your whole problem!Need to respect the older workers and quit worrying about what we have,do or get!Do the fucking time and you will get the same .If you still have a job |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 12, 2020 9:19:20 GMT -5
NASCAR is right. Our last few years here are going to be pretty much like our first few. 11 hours x 5 days a week and lots of Saturdays. It will be interesting to see what happens at KTP in the next 5 years after most of the 93-95 hires are gone. I can see it get to where 75% of the plant has FMLA and most people will only work 1250 hours a year. I think Ford is gonna be the big loser. What are they gonna do move ? Move where ! The PT generation is everywhere. Yeah it’s gonna suck old timers but like we use to say “ lay in there and get it “. I’m gonna save like I never saved before. Who knows what will become of our pension. When I leave they can close KTP and I wouldn’t care |
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Post by ktpframeking on Jul 12, 2020 15:51:35 GMT -5
I agree to a point. It would be funny to watch all those deadbeat Buckeyes pack up and move again. It will look like a caravan of Beverly Hillbilly trucks heading out of town. Finally !
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 12, 2020 16:58:49 GMT -5
I agree to a point. It would be funny to watch all those deadbeat Buckeyes pack up and move again. It will look like a caravan of Beverly Hillbilly trucks heading out of town. Finally ! And our local 862 bro’s will have to go back to their plant that never CLOSED.But I do have a couple close friends from LAP,so they aren’t that bad.lmao |
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Post by tiger66 on Jul 12, 2020 22:26:32 GMT -5
What some childish bullshit both of you are saying. kTP is one of the 3 biggest moneymakers for Ford. Our retirement is dependent on ford making money. There’s millions of people who thought their retirement was secure that lost it. I hope this plant has a long and prosperous future. I hope the new- hires wake up and see this is a great opportunity to do good for their families. Good luck and God bless.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 13, 2020 2:20:50 GMT -5
Millions of people at Ford UAW lost their retirement?As far as what I’ve said I’m being serious.You realize just because a person says something it doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.Right?These new workers for the most part do a great job.But seems like there is more worthless ones than when I hired in.(we have a lot )
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Post by nra4life on Jul 13, 2020 5:33:17 GMT -5
Wishing the plant to close is just absurd. Each job here effects 8 jobs in the community according to the experts. So your talking 64k jobs affected if they closed it up. Probably would cost someone in your family or a friend their job too. Your talking supplier jobs, delivery jobs, restaurants, doctors offices, most retailers in the area would be hurt bad as well effecting jobs there. Just crazy to talk that way.
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Post by thetruth1 on Jul 13, 2020 5:47:48 GMT -5
I dont comment often but let me get this right, are speaking about those who say they have childcare issues or are you talking about the ones out for High risk individuals? Because anyone with real health issues shouldn't be pressured by Ford or you to return to work. Bad outcomes have been proven since the start of this mess. Also I have plenty of my A crew brothers who are also put because they have health issue such as heart and lung disease-so.e with lowered immune systems due to high does of meds. So please stop saying that the $600 is the reason for everyone. As for the young people the $600 was about what they male each eek anyway unemployment will be close to that with their S-pay. Daycares are also only taking 10 kids per room go figure- quick to judge
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 13, 2020 6:54:20 GMT -5
Wishing the plant to close is just absurd. Each job here effects 8 jobs in the community according to the experts. So your talking 64k jobs affected if they closed it up. Probably would cost someone in your family or a friend their job too. Your talking supplier jobs, delivery jobs, restaurants, doctors offices, most retailers in the area would be hurt bad as well effecting jobs there. Just crazy to talk that way. Okay .Let me clarify.Never WISHED a plant would close.Meant When I leave this place I could care less about anything here.Period!I hope we all win 1 million on the lottery.See how silly that is?What I wish has zero fucking percent of what happens in the future. |
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Post by beenaround on Jul 13, 2020 11:31:12 GMT -5
I agree to a point. It would be funny to watch all those deadbeat Buckeyes pack up and move again. It will look like a caravan of Beverly Hillbilly trucks heading out of town. Finally ! 23 Fricken years later and you still are pissed off that Ohio people( you didn't mention any other transplants...Hmmmm)came here. For crying out loud get over it already. There just as many screwy kentuckians as there are screwy buckeyes,georgians,jersyians,michigans etc etc etc. |
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Post by agslater on Jul 13, 2020 12:31:12 GMT -5
I agree they are hiring the bottom of the barrel lately. And yes a lot were even coming in when I did, but these new temps are on another level. You guys should work B crew if you think A is bad. 2x worse. Everyone thinks is "cool" to not give a fuck.
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Jul 13, 2020 13:50:08 GMT -5
Order bank is too high. Build more trucks on 3 shifts compared to 2 even if you have 2 shifts work every Saturday..... unless they move work to Ohio.
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Post by tiger66 on Jul 13, 2020 21:59:59 GMT -5
Millions of people at Ford UAW lost their retirement?As far as what I’ve said I’m being serious.You realize just because a person says something it doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.Right?These new workers for the most part do a great job.But seems like there is more worthless ones than when I hired in.(we have a lot ) Read the post again, did I say millions of Ford UAW workers? No I didn’t. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 14, 2020 2:40:11 GMT -5
Millions of people at Ford UAW lost their retirement?As far as what I’ve said I’m being serious.You realize just because a person says something it doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.Right?These new workers for the most part do a great job.But seems like there is more worthless ones than when I hired in.(we have a lot ) Read the post again, did I say millions of Ford UAW workers? No I didn’t. I can’t read.Im a Ford worker |
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