Strike

[bigdog41]

Why can't we get an update? Solidarity! Rah Rah Rah!

[jeanblue]

Was thinking same thing! It's been a week already!

[Ex-metalman]

Word is (rumor?)the hold up is
1)25% is the least WE will settle for
2)We NEED insurance for workers hired AFTER 07 when they retire
3)EV plants
4) 18% raise to current and future retirees 🤷🏻‍♂️

[fordman3]

Oct 19, 2023 9:33:05 GMT -5 Ex-metalman said:

Word is (rumor?)the hold up is
1)25% is the least WE will settle for
2)We NEED insurance for workers hired AFTER 07 when they retire
3)EV plants
4) 18% raise to current and future retirees 🤷🏻‍♂️

Well sounds like it's gonna be a while then still. Coming back from Panama tomorrow and I guess I'll rent a cabin in Tennessee this coming week. I'm enjoying my time off. Glad I've been preparing for this for a while. Had a feeling this contract was the one we would strike. Hopefully next time some of these young people take it serious when they say there's always a chance every 4 years just because we have in so long doesn't mean we won't.

[agslater]

I'm ready to put this recent offer to a vote. Most people I know are ready to get back. Broke and making 500/week sucks. That offer woulda been making over 40/hr in a few years. Now it's up to one man (fain) to decide everyone's fate. He needs to put this thing to a vote and let the people decide.

[agslater]

Oct 19, 2023 10:31:23 GMT -5 fordman3 said:

Oct 19, 2023 9:33:05 GMT -5 Ex-metalman said:

Word is (rumor?)the hold up is
1)25% is the least WE will settle for
2)We NEED insurance for workers hired AFTER 07 when they retire
3)EV plants
4) 18% raise to current and future retirees 🤷🏻‍♂️

Well sounds like it's gonna be a while then still. Coming back from Panama tomorrow and I guess I'll rent a cabin in Tennessee this coming week. I'm enjoying my time off. Glad I've been preparing for this for a while. Had a feeling this contract was the one we would strike. Hopefully next time some of these young people take it serious when they say there's always a chance every 4 years just because we have in so long doesn't mean we won't.

Not everyone is as awesome as you I guess.

[fordman3]

Oct 20, 2023 12:34:30 GMT -5 agslater said:

Oct 19, 2023 10:31:23 GMT -5 fordman3 said:

Well sounds like it's gonna be a while then still. Coming back from Panama tomorrow and I guess I'll rent a cabin in Tennessee this coming week. I'm enjoying my time off. Glad I've been preparing for this for a while. Had a feeling this contract was the one we would strike. Hopefully next time some of these young people take it serious when they say there's always a chance every 4 years just because we have in so long doesn't mean we won't.

Not everyone is as awesome as you I guess.

Doesn't have anything to do with it. Anyone who doesn't like the strike can go out and make $499 after taxes a week additional a week just have to go do it on top of the $500/week. That's more than take home a week after taxes or about the same. If someone doesn't know there is a chance every 4 years we can strike then they don't know how this job works. We get profit sharing, $1500 in June, etc. There's been plenty of time to save. Too many people way in over there head with $1800 Mortgages and $900 car notes they can't afford I guess.

[Ex-metalman]

Oct 20, 2023 12:32:24 GMT -5 agslater said:

I'm ready to put this recent offer to a vote. Most people I know are ready to get back. Broke and making 500/week sucks. That offer woulda been making over 40/hr in a few years. Now it's up to one man (fain) to decide everyone's fate. He needs to put this thing to a vote and let the people decide.

How do they offer a current retiree 250$ a year??What a kick in the balls.These old folks worked 30 yrs here and with inflation as it 250$ is just ridiculous

[fordman3]

Oct 20, 2023 18:32:52 GMT -5 Ex-metalman said:

Oct 20, 2023 12:32:24 GMT -5 agslater said:

I'm ready to put this recent offer to a vote. Most people I know are ready to get back. Broke and making 500/week sucks. That offer woulda been making over 40/hr in a few years. Now it's up to one man (fain) to decide everyone's fate. He needs to put this thing to a vote and let the people decide.

How do they offer a current retiree 250$ a year??What a kick in the balls.These old folks worked 30 yrs here and with inflation as it 250$ is just ridiculous

They watched too many of those infomercials! So they made their own statement "For .66 a day you too can help feed a retiree" - Ford LOL
Will that even buy a pack of ramen now?

[beenaround]

Oct 20, 2023 18:32:52 GMT -5 Ex-metalman said:

Oct 20, 2023 12:32:24 GMT -5 agslater said:

I'm ready to put this recent offer to a vote. Most people I know are ready to get back. Broke and making 500/week sucks. That offer woulda been making over 40/hr in a few years. Now it's up to one man (fain) to decide everyone's fate. He needs to put this thing to a vote and let the people decide.

How do they offer a current retiree 250$ a year??What a kick in the balls.These old folks worked 30 yrs here and with inflation as it 250$ is just ridiculous

You forgot to mention the additional $3 per month more for every year you were employed. Gee whiz they are just so generous. To bad the IUAW just throws that request in for a bargaining chip!

[beenaround]

We get profit sharing, $1500 in June, etc. There's been plenty of time to save. Too many people way in over there head with $1800 Mortgages and $900 car notes they can't afford I guess.......... Will not be very much profit sharing (if any) next March.

[Ex-metalman]

I would actually accept 25% and 10% retiree raise.If Bill Ford would get on live tv and admit he lied about returning concessions when Ford became profitable again.

[agslater]

Oct 21, 2023 7:24:16 GMT -5 Ex-metalman said:

I would actually accept 25% and 10% retiree raise.If Bill Ford would get on live tv and admit he lied about returning concessions when Ford became profitable again.

Agree. I think if they bump it 25% to the big 3 it will get voted yes

[agslater]

Oct 21, 2023 7:07:35 GMT -5 beenaround said:

We get profit sharing, $1500 in June, etc. There's been plenty of time to save. Too many people way in over there head with $1800 Mortgages and $900 car notes they can't afford I guess.......... Will not be very much profit sharing (if any) next March.

True. I have a cheap mortgage, modest 1 car payment. Also have 2 little kids to feed and can't afford daycare so wife works part time. After groceries which are more than mortgage and other BS my kids always need something for school/sports. Hard to save money with this cost of living.

[fordman3]

Oct 21, 2023 11:18:01 GMT -5 agslater said:

Oct 21, 2023 7:07:35 GMT -5 beenaround said:

We get profit sharing, $1500 in June, etc. There's been plenty of time to save. Too many people way in over there head with $1800 Mortgages and $900 car notes they can't afford I guess.......... Will not be very much profit sharing (if any) next March.

True. I have a cheap mortgage, modest 1 car payment. Also have 2 little kids to feed and can't afford daycare so wife works part time. After groceries which are more than mortgage and other BS my kids always need something for school/sports. Hard to save money with this cost of living.

I have kids as well and a modest mortgage and car payment. But some of these folks are already drowning and it's barely been 2 strike turns for us each yet. So we've lost what if working A crew 1 day pay? Then this coming Friday we're gonna get $500 so I'm losing $430ish this Friday so I'm down not even $640 but yet Ford said we can go out and get another job and make $499 and people would rather sit around and cry about it. There's your loss of income right there plus more

[dana]

Was wondering when should we expect our first strike pay check?

[bigdog41]

I think Oct 27th.

[since1993]

I'm sure the 3rd quarter news which Ford will report Thursday is going to be a major bargaining chip for One side or the other. Not saying this will be the make / break but I'm sure Fain is assuming 3rd quarter was profitable and it will help his case.

[nra4life]

Oct 23, 2023 15:37:00 GMT -5 Ex-metalman said:

Why is stamping still running a KTP ..

Management from KTP & LAP running it trying to keep LAP & OHAP running. KTP stamps their parts

[Ex-metalman]

Oct 23, 2023 16:06:37 GMT -5 nra4life said:

Oct 23, 2023 15:37:00 GMT -5 Ex-metalman said:

Why is stamping still running a KTP ..

Management from KTP & LAP running it trying to keep LAP & OHAP running. KTP stamps their parts

Right I get that BUT we are the same LOCAL???Fain needs to shut STAMPING DOWN.Think of the poor quality they’re shipping?Wonder if Fain even knows this?

[jeanblue]

He has to know. Management been working since ktp went on strike.

[beenaround]

I think just shutting down KTP *(assembly) was absolute BS! If Fain calls 862 then ALL of 862 goes down! He is just trying to save money on the strike fund! Wait until this all gets settled. Then Fain will tell all the rank and file that they need to pony up and pay 3 hours union dues for an unspecified time to rebuild the strike fund. IMO!

[Ex-metalman]

I agree .Total Bullshit.Shutting down KTP should include Stamping .If not then the 862 UNION paying stamping workers should still be working .

[ktp99]

There is nothing Fain can do to shut down management from working in Stamping. They are also working in Final doing repairs.

[Ex-metalman]

There sure is something he can do..Shutdown LAP and OHAP.LAP /KTP 862??

[fordman3]

Oct 23, 2023 23:46:33 GMT -5 Ex-metalman said:

There sure is something he can do..Shutdown LAP and OHAP.LAP /KTP 862??

100% Agree with you! He needs to add them to striking with us before they get laid off by Ford next.

[beenaround]

Oct 23, 2023 16:37:30 GMT -5 Ex-metalman said:

Oct 23, 2023 16:06:37 GMT -5 nra4life said:

Management from KTP & LAP running it trying to keep LAP & OHAP running. KTP stamps their parts

Right I get that BUT we are the same LOCAL???Fain needs to shut STAMPING DOWN.Think of the poor quality they’re shipping?Wonder if Fain even knows this?

LAP should have walked also as they too are 862.

[Ex-metalman]

Word on the picket line is WE ARE CLOSE to a TA..25% ,cola,3$ retiree raise and 5000$ Rat bonus.Rumor !

[nra4life]

Oct 25, 2023 15:24:54 GMT -5 Ex-metalman said:

Word on the picket line is WE ARE CLOSE to a TA..25% ,cola,3$ retiree raise and 5000$ Rat bonus.Rumor !

Buyouts?

[agslater]

Already seeing a bunch of morons on Facebook saying and spreading the word to vote no. Even new people. Gonna be making $40/hr at a factory job with more than likely zero education. In 3 years at that.