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Post by det309 on Dec 18, 2009 13:46:07 GMT -5
Heard a few days ago, Jeff a manager in trim spit on a UAW Rep. How in the world is he still working. I thought we had a zero tolerance, or does it not apply to management. Had me or any of my union brothers or sisters done this you better bet our ass would be out the door. Was told by the UAW Rep he's going through the proper channels. What channel needs to be gone through. Sorry, I had to vent. Been a long time reader, but this has gone to far.........
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Post by lappainter on Dec 18, 2009 13:59:04 GMT -5
I thought that was considered assault with a bodily fluid. If it were me I'd file charges. When I worked in corrections is was and it also was an ass whopping. But was it true ? If it is, then I agree det309.
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Post by javajoe on Dec 18, 2009 14:45:20 GMT -5
What part of trim does this scumbag manage?
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Post by chicabonita on Dec 18, 2009 14:51:40 GMT -5
WTH???!!! The only supv I know of in trim is Jeff Marzian (or however it"s spelled).
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Post by det309 on Dec 18, 2009 14:59:20 GMT -5
Jeff Marzian is the Sup. I heard did this. Doogy was the one on the recieving end. He said International was working on it. My question is why does it have to go this far? Next Question is why did people at KTP hear about this before us at LAP did?
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Post by chicabonita on Dec 18, 2009 15:19:48 GMT -5
Hmmm, I can see Jeff doing this. I've seen him go off on lots of people. I'm surprised Doogy didn't punch him! lol I called Fred out to the line one time for an issue I was having. I told Fred something Jeff had said about "my wonderful union". He called me a liar to my face! After I did that, everyday, Jeff & Corey would be on the line harrassing me. But I got that issue resolved real quick thanks to me being a big ol tattletale and telling Rocky. I guess he talked to them because I never had a problem with them again AND my issue got resolved:)
Yes, it is against the law to spit on someone (simple assault), he should press charges.
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Post by ihatemyjob on Dec 18, 2009 18:01:27 GMT -5
Jeff is a piece of trash and people like him are whats wrong with Ford Motor Co.
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Post by marcus on Dec 18, 2009 21:38:06 GMT -5
Is it the same jeff thats on drugs?Used to have a mustang?
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Post by itsnotmyjob on Dec 18, 2009 22:08:06 GMT -5
For one Doogie had his finger hitting Jeff in the forehead w/it....if you weren't there don't go blowing it out of context.....and if ANY OF YOU knew Jeff he spits on everybody just talkin normal...he's called a wet mouth......so you know when you are up in each others face you will get spit on ....give me a friggin break......
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Post by javajoe on Dec 18, 2009 23:01:19 GMT -5
Blowing it out of context??? Are you kidding me? If this was reversed Doogie would have been fired before the end of the shift. I think the union should push hard and demand that this P.O.S. supervisor be fired or given at least 30 days off to think about it.
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Post by ktpnightshift4life on Dec 19, 2009 3:13:50 GMT -5
Blowing it out of context??? Are you kidding me? If this was reversed Doogie would have been fired before the end of the shift. I think the union should push hard and demand that this P.O.S. supervisor be fired or given at least 30 days off to think about it. thats absolutely correct. I'm at KTP and a couple of years ago a guy spit in the face of his supervisor and he was suspended on the spot until further notice. At the very minumum that supervisor should be suspended until the issue is resolved one way or the other. |
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Post by lucero on Dec 19, 2009 6:57:48 GMT -5
I am NOT a suck up or a company man, having said that, I worked with Jeff on the door line and think he was one of the best sups in the nine years I was there. He never screwed me over or was ever rude to me. I think if you just did your job and did it well thats all he asked. people just have different personalities and guess some may clash, but I found him overall to be a decent guy. just my 2 cents.
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Post by sparkie on Dec 19, 2009 10:50:22 GMT -5
I'm gonna stand with Lucero here. I have worked with Jeff and he was good to me.
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Post by lap65 on Dec 19, 2009 11:12:35 GMT -5
Worked for Jeff also, personally never had a problem with him, but saw others who did. He does spit sometimes when he is talking, I can't see him doing it on purpose.
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Post by wallflower on Dec 19, 2009 11:41:12 GMT -5
Your mileage may vary.
I have had a few dealings with Jeff over the last couple of years and have found him to be manipulative and focused on one thing, making himself look as good as possible with the least amount of trouble to himself. I knew him when he worked on the line and went to salary.
I think that times like this bring out the best and worst in people. Nothing would surprise me.
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Post by chicabonita on Dec 19, 2009 13:23:49 GMT -5
I have had a few dealings with Jeff over the last couple of years and have found him to be manipulative and focused on one thing, making himself look as good as possible with the least amount of trouble to himself. I knew him when he worked on the line and went to salary.
Amen my brotha!!!! That is the perfect description of Jeff.
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Post by javajoe on Dec 19, 2009 13:53:45 GMT -5
Every supervisor that is still at ford has only one thing on their mind, to make himself or herself look as good as possible so they can continue after the next supervisor personnel cut. The supervisors will cut your throat and the throat of their fellow supervisors if it will make themselves look better to upper management. To those of you that get along with your supervisors, fight an overloaded job or resist doing any extra work. See how much you mean to them after that.
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Post by ihatemyjob on Dec 19, 2009 17:21:42 GMT -5
Jeff is trash. Hes a cut throat and I believe was already fired one other time and was hired back.
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Post by fat Jimmy on Dec 20, 2009 0:28:07 GMT -5
I know this is may be an unpopular statement... But, I feel I must give my 2 cents... It's the nature of the game... I have personal knowledge that committeeman in the past have kicked, spit, thrown phone, punched, thrown things at, slammed doors, cleared off their desk, greased phones, and just totally de-balled supervisors in front of every one. It comes with the job. Most are not proud of what they did, but, it was in the heat of the moment, it happens. Usually you never hear of the supervisor getting one in. I am not saying if he did it, it was right, but what I am saying, is it comes with the job.... I don't think any one should lose a job over it... You just have to get even.... just my 2 cents....
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Post by wallflower on Dec 20, 2009 7:23:47 GMT -5
In my time at Ford I have seen that "getting even" rarely includes only the guilty parties. Anybody that acts like that should be disciplined. I'd say that there is a good chance that operators will get screwed with just to inconvenience the committeeman or make him look ineffective. When you physically violate a person there should be reprocussions. Clearing offf a desk, kicking items, etc. is just that, actions on inanimate objects. Spitting on someone is just about the most disgusting, demeaning, and risky thing that you can do to a concious person. If you get right down to it, I believe the Ford employees are required to wear PPE if coming in contact with saliva. Doogie should wear a full face shield every time he goes to Marzians' area. That would be a good start.
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Post by 30yearpace on Dec 21, 2009 4:02:43 GMT -5
The Union should push this and make an example of the supervisor. Write-ups are being handed out more than usual to the hourly people and it's about time the Union does a little displanary action of thier own Towards the company.
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Post by sdg on Dec 24, 2009 5:04:30 GMT -5
I know this is may be an unpopular statement... But, I feel I must give my 2 cents... It's the nature of the game... I have personal knowledge that committeeman in the past have kicked, spit, thrown phone, punched, thrown things at, slammed doors, cleared off their desk, greased phones, and just totally de-balled supervisors in front of every one. It comes with the job. Most are not proud of what they did, but, it was in the heat of the moment, it happens. Usually you never hear of the supervisor getting one in. I am not saying if he did it, it was right, but what I am saying, is it comes with the job.... I don't think any one should lose a job over it... You just have to get even.... just my 2 cents.... I agree with you Jimmy and have myself been on both the receiving and the giving end of arguements that resulted in physical or verbal assaults. IMO no one will get disciplined and thats probably how it should be. Because one of these days a committeeman may spit on a supervisor in the heat of battle and I wouldn't want to see him/her get fired. Grow from the battle and live to retaliate. Lay in there and get it Doggy !!!!! |
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Post by ktpelec on Dec 24, 2009 9:01:05 GMT -5
According to a lot of people on this Forum this would be a sign of weak and ineffectice union representation at this particular plant, vote them all out at the first opportunity!! LMAO
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
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Post by feduphighly on Dec 24, 2009 16:11:27 GMT -5
According to a lot of people on this Forum this would be a sign of weak and ineffectice union representation at this particular plant, vote them all out at the first opportunity!! LMAO Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year You need to stop dogging the union you may need them someday I know they have helped me out over the years and they will you people someday if you need them.Go out and work in a place that has no union ,I think we have all forgotten what it is like on the outside Go out there and work for 7 or 8 $$ an hour with no union I have been there and believe me it is no fun Be thankful for what u all have cause you could lose it in a split second ,ask someone who knows Good Luck to all of u and have a nice Holiday. |
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Post by ktpelec on Dec 25, 2009 10:58:19 GMT -5
According to a lot of people on this Forum this would be a sign of weak and ineffectice union representation at this particular plant, vote them all out at the first opportunity!! LMAO Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year This is commonly reffered to as SATIRE, I am not one to dog our union representation because it's a job I could not do. |
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Post by rudedawg on Dec 25, 2009 13:18:38 GMT -5
According to a lot of people on this Forum this would be a sign of weak and ineffectice union representation at this particular plant, vote them all out at the first opportunity!! LMAO Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year This is commonly reffered to as SATIRE, I am not one to dog our union representation because it's a job I could not do. Is it hard for you to just come out and say you were being a smartass instead of enlightening us with your vocabulary? Have a Merry Christmas! |
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Post by ktpelec on Dec 25, 2009 15:36:07 GMT -5
And a Happy New year....
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Post by madman on Jan 1, 2010 11:37:38 GMT -5
What happen to the post that was put on here yesterday from Fred Willard must of been politically incorrect. It was talking about if he was Gary he would have punched Jeff M. lights out but Gary took the right approach by taking the high road and keeping hes cool . Also that this matter had been sent up North to the international union to handle.
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