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Post by sonofberl on Jan 25, 2010 15:13:19 GMT -5
watching the wall street ch. and they said ford would be hiring 1200 people to build the new explorer in chicago. Just wondering if we can transfer or will it be to close to when we will be hired back.
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Post by justaworker on Jan 25, 2010 16:17:30 GMT -5
watching the wall street ch. and they said ford would be hiring 1200 people to build the new explorer in chicago. Just wondering if we can transfer or will it be to close to when we will be hired back. well, i'm hoping for a transfer. so maybe i am reading too much into it. but they will hit showrooms this fall, so probable to start building this summer i would guess. |
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Post by lapbrian on Jan 25, 2010 17:15:56 GMT -5
.AP Source: Ford to add 1,200 jobs in Chicago
AP Source: Ford Motor Co. to add 1,200 jobs at Chicago plant to build new Explorer
Buzz up! 1 Print..Companies:Ford Motor Co..By Tom Krisher, AP Auto Writer , On Monday January 25, 2010, 4:33 pm
DETROIT (AP) -- A person briefed on the matter says Ford Motor Co. will add 1,200 jobs at its Chicago assembly plant to built the new Ford Explorer starting later this year.
The company and Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn are scheduled to make the announcement on Tuesday at the factory.
Quinn told reporters in Chicago on Monday that an unspecified company would be announcing 1,200 new jobs in Illinois.
The person briefed on the announcement says some of the workers will be from Ford's pool of employees laid off at other factories. The person did not want to be identified because the announcement has not been made.
The new Explorer will be built on the same frame at the Taurus sedan, which is built at the Chicago plant.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Jan 25, 2010 17:20:56 GMT -5
Everyone will be surveyed to follow their product I am assuming. Chicago is one of my favorite cities, but after talking to some of the bosses that went up there...I am not sure I would go. But if I was on ILO and got the offer...I would be on my way. Lots of good towns to live in outside of Chicago...check out around Naperville and Aurora...beautiful.
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Post by justaworker on Jan 25, 2010 17:48:47 GMT -5
Everyone will be surveyed to follow their product I am assuming. Chicago is one of my favorite cities, but after talking to some of the bosses that went up there...I am not sure I would go. But if I was on ILO and got the offer...I would be on my way. Lots of good towns to live in outside of Chicago...check out around Naperville and Aurora...beautiful. my best friend lives right outside naperville now, in montgomery county. real nice neighborhood...but real far from the plant. |
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Post by lariatv8 on Jan 25, 2010 19:26:15 GMT -5
Do you think Ford will do the retool earlier at Louisville if the Explorer production starts in Chicago this summer? It makes sense to get the ball rolling and get the Kuga in production and in the showroomsas early as possible. But we are talking about common sense and Ford. LOL
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Post by PUNISHER on Jan 25, 2010 19:37:58 GMT -5
BC told me retool has not been moved up.......figures
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Post by ackspac on Jan 25, 2010 21:33:57 GMT -5
From what those of us on ILO were told in the ILO meeting, is if you go out of zone (Chigago, Detroit, etc..) you will be last to get surveyed to come back to LAP.
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Post by lariatv8 on Jan 26, 2010 1:44:24 GMT -5
Ackspac, that's what I figured. Anyone moving out of zone may get stuck up north and catch hell getting back into the louisville system. And as of right now, the actual date and time frame for Chicago hasn't been announced. They are saying later this year.
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Post by rudedawg on Jan 26, 2010 11:01:42 GMT -5
Can one of our elected union officials give us a scenario of how we can get back to LAP once they begin running the new product if we decide to or able to go to Chicago. It's obvious that if you follow the product you will be stuck. Just curious as to how the recall process will be to get back.
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Post by justaworker on Jan 26, 2010 11:21:18 GMT -5
Can one of our elected union officials give us a scenario of how we can get back to LAP once they begin running the new product if we decide to or able to go to Chicago. It's obvious that if you follow the product you will be stuck. Just curious as to how the recall process will be to get back. from what i was told, and thats not worth much. we will not be stuck. not necessarily following our product, but they need 1,200 people and only have half that on layoff nationwide. shouldn't be a problem getting back. |
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Post by drew1980 on Jan 26, 2010 12:44:43 GMT -5
finally some good news for all my fellow union brothers and sisters! i hope everything works out. i think it would be great to work in chicago, then when im needed back in the ville, come back. ive got my freakin fingers crossed!!!!!! bein on ilo is terrible!!!
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Post by sonofberl on Jan 26, 2010 12:58:09 GMT -5
just read in the CJ that ILO from louisville will be first to be asked to go to chicago but the down side of the article said if we dont go we will lose call back rights to louisville. I thought I would still have call back rights to home plant no matter what but who knows with the contract mod. They probably screwed us even more than we will find out for years to come.
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Post by sonofberl on Jan 26, 2010 13:10:02 GMT -5
About 260 workers laid off from Ford Motor Co.’s Louisville Assembly Plant will have first dibs on 1,200 jobs making the next generation of the Explorer at the Chicago Assembly Plant.
Ford announced Tuesday that the new Explorer will be built in Chicago once production ends in Louisville later this year.
The move is in line with the coming $500 million renovation of the Louisville Assembly Plant to manufacture Escape and Kuga crossovers early next year.
But laid-off workers who don’t move to Chicago will lose their jobs and won’t be eligible for call back once the retooled Louisville Assembly resumes production.
“You get one offer,” company spokeswoman Marcey Evans said.
Major changes to the labor contract with the United Auto Workers in recent years will govern the transfer of 600 laid off Ford workers nationwide, including those on standby in Louisville.Under previous labor contracts, Ford workers were able to decline a transfer to a plant elsewhere and still retain rights to join the company at a later date, staying in a pool informally known as the “Jobs Bank.”
As a condition of federal aid to General Motors and Chrysler, the United Auto Workers trimmed the Job Banks benefit from its labor contracts last year as part of an effort to match Detroit Three automakers’ labor costs with those of non-union automakers like Toyota.
Once all the laid-off Ford workers decide whether to take a Chicago job, the new contract allows Ford to bring on new autoworkers who will earn $14 per hour, or about half the current rate, company spokeswoman Marcey Evans said.
Rumors that laid off workers here would be moved to Chicago, and the prospect of working alongside newcomers earning half his rate of pay is why Gustavo Piaggio, a laid off line worker at Louisville, said he took a buyout to leave the company last Friday.
“How can I look into my son’s eyes and say that Ford would be a place worth working at with all the things that have been taken away and the two tier wage that has been accepted,” said Piaggio, a father of two who transferred to Louisville when its Atlanta Assembly Plant closed in 2005.
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“Really, I realized I don’t want to be a part of a business that seems to be out to get you,” Piaggio, 31, said Friday.
Unlike the truck-based Explorers produced at Louisville Assembly, the new version will be manufactured on a smoother-riding car platform.
Ford is releasing no photos and few details on the new Explorer, which will go into production in the fourth quarter of this year, company spokeswoman Marcey Evans said.
Ford Explorer sales peaked at more than 445,000 in 2000, and sales averaged 412,000 annually from 1995 through 2003, Ford senior sales analyst George Pipas said Tuesday.
But the Explorer V-6 engine’s 14 miles per gallon in city driving, and 19 miles per gallon on the highway damaged its popularity against the more fuel-efficient crossovers like the Escape and Edge.
Explorer sales have plummeted in recent years to well below 100,000 sold annually. The customers who were left, analysts say, were those attracted to its towing capacity of more than 7,000 pounds.
The new Explorer will deliver at least 25 percent better fuel economy than the current , Ford said in the announcement. No details on the towing capacity of the new Explorer were available Tuesday.
“The new Explorer will redefine the SUV for the modern era — retaining the capability customers want while delivering superb fuel efficiency….” Mark Fields, Ford’s president of the America’s, said a prepared statement Tuesday.
Ford on Tuesday reconfirmed its plans for Louisville Assembly to produce new vehicles starting in 2011.
Reporter Jere Downs can be reached at (502) 582-4669.
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Post by drew1980 on Jan 26, 2010 13:31:04 GMT -5
sonofberl, that was a interesting article! that u just posted
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Post by gizmo on Jan 26, 2010 13:46:22 GMT -5
I just talked to Herb Hibbs He said the courier journal was wrong if we turn down the chance to go to chicago we lose our tap and all of our Insurance but we still have recall rights when LAP retools. but what i forgot to ask him was do we get the 5000.00 for moving to chicago
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Post by sonofberl on Jan 26, 2010 14:05:26 GMT -5
Sounds good hope you are right, called union office they said wait and see.
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Post by ackspac on Jan 26, 2010 14:10:21 GMT -5
I just talked to Herb Hibbs He said the courier journal was wrong if we turn down the chance to go to chicago we lose our tap and all of our Insurance but we still have recall rights when LAP retools. but what i forgot to ask him was do we get the 5000.00 for moving to chicago Just spoke with Herb myself and ditto! He read the contract back to me and NOWHERE does it say we lose our call back rights. He informed me that he will be on tonight (around 8pm) to clear up the C-J's misconceptions. |
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Jan 26, 2010 15:11:41 GMT -5
I think I would believe Ford before I believe the UAW which continues to sell us out. Didn't Stone say none of you on ILO now would be where you are? If Stone was right, you would still be at LAP working.
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Post by justaworker on Jan 26, 2010 15:23:10 GMT -5
I think I would believe Ford before I believe the UAW which continues to sell us out. Didn't Stone say none of you on ILO now would be where you are? If Stone was right, you would still be at LAP working. i don't think anybody is lying..i just think the ford lady was a little misinformed. |
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Post by ackspac on Jan 26, 2010 15:55:10 GMT -5
I think I would believe Ford before I believe the UAW which continues to sell us out. Didn't Stone say none of you on ILO now would be where you are? If Stone was right, you would still be at LAP working. i don't think anybody is lying..i just think the ford lady was a little misinformed. +1 |
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Post by chicabonita on Jan 26, 2010 15:58:13 GMT -5
But laid-off workers who don’t move to Chicago will lose their jobs and won’t be eligible for call back once the retooled Louisville Assembly resumes production.
That is not true. We would retain call back rights, but we would lose TAP money & benefits (as somebody else stated in a previous post). If you get to come back to LAP or not depends on how much money you take to make the move. (Don't quote me on the amounts) $4500 , you go to Chicago and get to come back to LAP. $40,000, Chicago becomes your plant, cannot come back to LAP.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm not going anywhere. Too damn cold there & right in the heart of the ghetto! lol
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Post by ackspac on Jan 26, 2010 16:11:32 GMT -5
[shadow=red,left,300]Ford announced Tuesday that the new Explorer will be built in Chicago once production ends in Louisville later this year.[/shadow] That would be very stupid. The actuall prodution of the new Explorer has not even been pegged until sometime late this year. So, pay to move us and then pay to move us back a few months later? I say nay!
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Post by ackspac on Jan 26, 2010 16:32:50 GMT -5
Hello, I would like to bring your attention on a new post published on the
UAWLAP.org Site.
Details of the post follow.
In Solidarity,
Steven M. Stone
Transfer of Operations to Chicago
The Courier Journal in its website Tuesday said that Ford announced that the
next generation Explorer will be built in Chicago beginning in the 4th quarter
of 2010 which I have discussed at the several Union meetings. The article
continues trying to explain transfer to from LAP but does so incorrectly. On
Tuesday afternoon, I tried to correct the misinformation with the CJ reporter
when informed of the content. A Ford Motor Company spokesperson incorrectly
told the CJ that employees on indefinite layoff that decline the Chicago 1200
jobs would retain recall rights, which is true, but didn't mention the that is
the final step in the hiring hierarchy in App. N. NO ONE has been charged a
"strike" to date.
The first step is that all LAP employees be giving the opportunity the Transfer
of Operations offer then the Hierarchy would start with a posting asking for
volunteers. Also, there is no consequence to not signing up to a "transfer of
operation". (Page 88 of Volume 1). As I announced at the last union meeting,
this could happen by the second quarter of 2010.
Ford on Tuesday did reconfirm its plans for Louisville Assembly to produce new
vehicles starting in 2011.
Link to the post:
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Post by lariatv8 on Jan 26, 2010 17:38:53 GMT -5
Chicabonita, I worked in Detroit for a few years at Ford and was glad to get out of that cold raggedy @#$ place. I feel ya, but times are tough. I gotta think about it.
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Post by drew1980 on Jan 26, 2010 17:40:01 GMT -5
so let me get this straight, we will be asked to go work in chicago, right? nobody is really sure when at this time exactly, right? then we will be able to come back when they ask us, right? can we have a meeting at the union hall soon? so many questions???
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Post by drew1980 on Jan 26, 2010 17:48:13 GMT -5
hey chicabonita, i dont really care about weather, or where it is. working back at ford sounds fantastic! been their since 2001, laid off after 9/11 for 6 months. now put on ilo for the last 6 months. work is work! i have 2 kids a wife a house payment, and 2007 explorer to pay for. so i say bring it on!
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Post by chicabonita on Jan 26, 2010 20:48:06 GMT -5
Drew1980, I too hired in in 2001. It's just my daughter & I, & I too have bills. We've pretty much learned how to live on my limited income. I would be miserable in Chicago without my family and my boyfriend. I wish you luck if you do get to follow our product  |
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Post by drew1980 on Jan 27, 2010 7:02:07 GMT -5
thanx chicabonita, hopefully we all can get back to normalcy
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Post by lucero on Jan 27, 2010 9:09:35 GMT -5
Oh come on Chica, We could go halvsies on an armored car and guns. I'll drive us to work and you can ride shotgun!LOL
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