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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Jan 30, 2010 8:15:36 GMT -5
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Post by brizzel on Feb 1, 2010 14:18:04 GMT -5
But toyota loves their customers so much.....
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Feb 1, 2010 14:22:21 GMT -5
How are ya Chris?
Now you've got building class action suits.
The Federal govt. is investigating. Congress has scheduled hearings.
On the news yesterday, a man in Louisviille was hospitalized with spinal injuries after his 2010 Camry accelerated into a ditch and flipped.
Customers in accidents BY THE THOUSANDS are now gonna claim it was sudden acceleration.
And this will play out in the press for weeks, and weeks.
Again, don't think that the whistle blowing attorney won't get his own story on the national news..........
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Post by ktpelec on Feb 1, 2010 14:37:15 GMT -5
One thing that is bad is that the faulty part is made in Indiana.
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Post by Calvin@KTP on Feb 1, 2010 15:41:50 GMT -5
It was made to Toyota's design specifications.
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Feb 1, 2010 17:02:21 GMT -5
I don't have the link, but several Japanese in "Man-on-the-street" interviews just KNEW that wouldn't happen in Japan.
There was something very "American" about the defects.......You know, American company supplier, dumbass American workers.
At the same time THOUSANDS are marching in the street demanding that the U.S. close the base in Okinowa, not move it.
I say we leave Japan and make them pay for their own defense.
Fair enough?
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Post by intheloop on Feb 2, 2010 0:07:40 GMT -5
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Feb 2, 2010 17:06:21 GMT -5
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Post by Calvin@KTP on Feb 3, 2010 16:42:19 GMT -5
Now they are investigating the faulty brakes on the Prius. I wonder if they will open up investigations into the sludge in their engines or the rusting frames on the Tundras?
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Post by reliefman on Feb 3, 2010 20:34:05 GMT -5
I forwarded the links to jdowns@courierjournal.com
Let's see if he/she can do anything with it.
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Feb 4, 2010 16:53:57 GMT -5
Maybe they'll blow the lid on the "secret recalls" they have. '"Come on in for a free oil change", (and we'll fix that switch while you're here). My wife said she saw some former Transportation Fed person (Secretary, not sure) talk about just how hard it had been to deal with Toyota vrs. the Big Three. Toyota manages their image and can be VERY tight with the info. That kind of thing is what might get them in trouble with the whistleblower suit. Check this out, especially the comments below. worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/02/04/2194928.aspx |
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Post by reliefman on Feb 4, 2010 21:01:51 GMT -5
Info gathering so far, Toyota and Lexus vehicles
abcnews.com
Tragic incident Southlake Texas, on the day after Christmas, four people died in Southlake, Texas, a suburb of Dallas, when a 2008 Toyota sped off the road, through a fence and landed upside down in a pond. The car’s floor mats were found in the trunk of the car, where owners had been advised to put them as part of the recall.
“There’s one thing that didn’t cause the accident,” said Southlake police spokesman Lt. Ben Brown.
In another case, in New Jersey, a Toyota owner was able to make it to a local dealer with his car racing out of control, even though his foot was not on the gas pedal and the floor mats were not involved. Kevin Haggerty, a salesman from Pittstown, New Jersey, said he had seen an ABCNews.com report about how to control a car experiencing unexpected acceleration — by shifting into neutral.
With his brakes smoking, and the engine racing, Haggerty summoned a Toyota manager to witness what was happening with his car.
Haggerty says after consulting with Toyota, the local dealer replaced the gas pedal and throttle and their sensors. Toyota says the recall of the “sticking gas pedals” covers Haggerty’s problem, but he says his gas pedal was never stuck.
SANTEE, Calif. — Four people aboard a runaway car told each other to hold on and pray moments before their 911 call ended in screams and a fiery crash in San Diego County.
The police recording of the call details the disturbing last seconds of the Aug. 28 crash that killed a California Highway Patrol officer and three family members.
On the 50-second recording released Thursday, passenger Chris Lastrella tells the dispatcher that the accelerator is stuck. The dispatcher asks if they can turn the car off.
“We’re in trouble. There’s no brake,” Lastrella said.
Someone tells the others in the car to hold on and pray, then woman screams and the call ends.
Witnesses said the weaving Lexus topped speeds of 120 mph before launching off an embankment and crashed and burst into flames in Santee.
Officer Mark Saylor, the driver, his wife Cleofe, their daughter Mahala, 13, and Lastrella were killed. Lastrella was Cleofe Saylor’s brother.
A preliminary investigation indicated the accelerator may have become entrapped by a rubber floor mat, sheriff’s Sgt. Scott Hill said.
Hill did not know if Saylor tried to shift the vehicle into neutral or turn it off, which might have been impossible if the car was experiencing a malfunction.
The car was a loaner from Bob Baker Lexus El Cajon. Company vice president Dave Ezratty refrained from commenting until the investigation is completed.
abc news video highlights:
2000 reports of Toyota accelerators racing out of control, combined from lawsuits, accident reports, and consumer complaints.
Since 2002, when Toyota went to the computer controlled accelerator system, the complaints have risen.
In EVERY lawsuit Toyota has blamed it on driver error.
In 2002 (8 years ago) Toyota issued a warning to dealerships of a computer glitch would could cause the engines to surge.
By my results, if ABC is "right" about the issue being known since 2002.
Worse case scenario for Toyota:
-If the defect was known..., covered up, and people died there could be charges of manslaughter or possibly worse for Toyota management.
-2002 - today 61,675,488 (plus) vehicles need to have computer "chip" replaced. Due to Toyota's desire to simply replace gas pedals or floor mats, the chip is probably more expensive. If they have to especially if they need to replace the entire computer. Whatever the fix is multiply its cost by 61 million.
-Lawsuits would be settled out of court for billions.
-Individual Consumer sales will drop, and fleet sales for Toyota would totally disappear, the used Toyota market would be flooded. Value of used Toyotas would drop.
the truth will set you free....
makes ya wonder though, who it was that Toyota has been paying off all these years to keep all their issues quiet, I guess they stopped paying...
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