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Post by utrimsucks on Feb 16, 2010 11:26:33 GMT -5
i am not triing to get the pot stired but the plant that builds the mustangs auto alliance had a townhall meeting and said before july shutdown. they will layoff a shift. I have a friend getting laidoff and he said they are in the works, with offering them all a job in chicago. before u talk shit check ur sorces
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Post by justaworker on Feb 16, 2010 11:38:37 GMT -5
i am not triing to get the pot stired but the plant that builds the mustangs auto alliance had a townhall meeting and said before july shutdown. they will layoff a shift. I have a friend getting laidoff and he said they are in the works, with offering them all a job in chicago. before u talk shit check ur sorces yep, been wondering the same thing. hopefully steve and the boys are already working on getting some answers about how this will effect us. |
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Post by lewis on Feb 16, 2010 11:50:54 GMT -5
The problem I have with this, if it is true, LAP supposely has a cap of 180 Tranfers when 275 are laidoff. I would like to know if the other plant has a shift reduction are they gonna get a cap, im not trying be an ass toward our other UAW brothers and sisters but LAP employees deserve the same respect as all others!
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Post by justaworker on Feb 16, 2010 11:52:56 GMT -5
The problem I have with this, if it is true, LAP supposely has a cap of 180 Tranfers when 275 are laidoff. I would like to know if the other plant has a shift reduction are they gonna get a cap, im not trying be an ass toward our other UAW brothers and sisters but LAP employees deserve the same respect as all others! our cap is only for transfer of operations (following your product deal). as many as can make it can transfer up later. |
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Post by lucero on Feb 16, 2010 16:27:25 GMT -5
That was sealed the deal for me. Just signed up to transfer. A lot more competition for those wanting to go up for the short term.
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Post by justaworker on Feb 16, 2010 17:24:12 GMT -5
That was sealed the deal for me. Just signed up to transfer. A lot more competition for those wanting to go up for the short term. lucero, my best friend and i are both from new albany. he moved up to chicago about 6 years ago. if there is any info i can get for you, let me know. i do know this, it is MUCH cheaper to remain a hoosier. he told me about hammond indiana is about 10 minutes from downtown and is a nice place to live. good luck brother. |
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Post by ilo on Feb 16, 2010 17:55:51 GMT -5
I saw the news today about the mustang plant cutting 900 people , im sure they will get offered a shot at chicago does anyone know how this will work are they in the same zone as chicago and if they are do they get first crack at those jobs or does it go by senority , I was planning on going up if offered but i didnt sign up to follow the product because i want recall rights back to lap
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Post by justaworker on Feb 16, 2010 17:58:26 GMT -5
I saw the news today about the mustang plant cutting 900 people , im sure they will get offered a shot at chicago does anyone know how this will work are they in the same zone as chicago and if they are do they get first crack at those jobs or does it go by senority , I was planning on going up if offered but i didnt sign up to follow the product because i want recall rights back to lap they are not in the same zone. of those 900, not all are UAW workers. some are salary. been reading all i can, talk that some/many of them will be staying at home and transferring to wayne. we'll see. |
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Post by ilo on Feb 16, 2010 18:31:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the answer, Hopefully most of those 900 who are UAW can be absorbed at the Wayne plant . Im also hearing a buzz about ford creating 1000 new jobs in Michigan to make electric car batteries, not sure when this is supposed to happen or if it ever will but if it does I hope that gives those getting laid off from Flat Rock another option and keeps the door open in Chicago for those of us from LAP who are considering the move.... I will keep those 900 in my thoughts I know what its like to get that awful news.
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Post by lucero on Feb 16, 2010 18:33:01 GMT -5
Thank you justaworker, I didnt make this decision without much consideration and alot of questions for Jim and Steve (Thanks Guys), we have been researching the area for a while and think this is the best move for our future. We have looked at Hammond and Griffith, Dyer, Munster...etc. We are looking forward to a new adventure.
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Post by rudedawg on Feb 16, 2010 18:47:53 GMT -5
I hope you let your kids finish the school year out (if you have kids) because it sucks tranferring to another school this late in the school year. Or really any time during the school.
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Post by lucero on Feb 16, 2010 21:05:34 GMT -5
I hope you let your kids finish the school year out (if you have kids) because it sucks tranferring to another school this late in the school year. Or really any time during the school. No kids, Less problems. |
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Post by lucero on Feb 16, 2010 21:08:13 GMT -5
just kidding, we sold them to the gypsies last week,. LOL
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Post by ggcoop on Feb 16, 2010 21:47:02 GMT -5
Man!Ya'll are on it!900 people in flat rock being laid off in July.Reduction of a shift.High seniority,not good!They will be offered Chicago too.
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Post by cobrasvt on Feb 17, 2010 0:28:08 GMT -5
I find it odd that Jan tried to talk me out of moving to Chicago Assembly, Telling me i needed to talk with Steve Stone first. Neither one of them acted as if my decission was a good one, but now I can see this crap was planned. Now watch Steve Stone run around and play dumb. He is as dirty as the inside of my truck fender was today. The time runs out to follow the product, and if for some reason a person doesn't get to work again, I doubt any of our union officials are going to take the blame for misinforming its members on what they already knew was going to happen. Our union is corrupt or incompetent!
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Post by mysteryjim on Feb 17, 2010 2:31:59 GMT -5
I agree with you cobrasvt........It's IRONIC how new information comes out AFTER "windows" CLOSE. This stuff has happened way to many times to be a coincidence.
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Post by lariatv8 on Feb 17, 2010 3:11:09 GMT -5
I talked to one of my friends in Detroit today and he was telling me about the Flat Rock layoffs. Most of those people are worried about selling their homes and are already looking into Wayne. They are not wanting to do that transfer to Chicago.
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Post by justaworker on Feb 17, 2010 9:27:38 GMT -5
i was worried about this at first, but then reality set in. those people at AAI are wanting to go to wayne, or stay up in michigan somewhere. sure, some of them will end up at CAP with some of us. but its not gonna be nearly enough to keep any of us from having the opportunity to voluntarily transfer up. the only thing it hurts is that there will be more employees with seniority, and less $14 an hour people. but whether you follow your product, or volunteer later you still have the same seniority.
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Post by drew1980 on Feb 17, 2010 13:27:29 GMT -5
good point! justaworker. glad to see someone thankin' positive!
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Post by justaworker on Feb 17, 2010 14:34:30 GMT -5
good point! justaworker. glad to see someone thankin' positive! ehh, i have still have my worries though. there is no question that ford does NOT want us to go up there. so if there is a way for them to screw us, they will do it. |
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Post by cobrasvt on Feb 17, 2010 15:07:30 GMT -5
I think Ford has plenty more up their sleve. Agreements we have already passed, our lawyers are having to spend days attempting to understand the verbage. That should have been done before we were advised to vote yes.
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Post by justaworker on Feb 17, 2010 15:20:51 GMT -5
I think Ford has plenty more up their sleve. Agreements we have already passed, our lawyers are having to spend days attempting to understand the verbage. That should have been done before we were advised to vote yes. thats another bad thing. i think whatever ford wants to do, they can. our IUAW has failed miserably, and there is not much the local can do. |
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Post by cobrasvt on Feb 17, 2010 15:27:25 GMT -5
I think Ford has plenty more up their sleve. Agreements we have already passed, our lawyers are having to spend days attempting to understand the verbage. That should have been done before we were advised to vote yes. thats another bad thing. i think whatever ford wants to do, they can. our IUAW has failed miserably, and there is not much the local can do. Unfortunately Chicago here I come. |
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Post by justaworker on Feb 17, 2010 15:30:37 GMT -5
thats another bad thing. i think whatever ford wants to do, they can. our IUAW has failed miserably, and there is not much the local can do. Unfortunately Chicago here I come. see you there brother. i've never awoled in my entire career at ford....but the first time my stl. cardinals come to town, i am awoling to go to wrigley.....who's in? |
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Post by drew1980 on Feb 17, 2010 16:00:44 GMT -5
justaworker have u signed up to go already?.... im waiting til march, HOPEFULLY!!
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Post by justaworker on Feb 17, 2010 16:11:48 GMT -5
justaworker have u signed up to go already?.... im waiting til march, HOPEFULLY!! i'm waiting...like you. i love chicago, its a great town. and i want the opportunity to work there for a year or so. but i don't want to uproot my family permanently. the way i see it, working nights there or nights here...you don't see your family much. so lets suck it up, come home every weekend...make some money, and wait for LAP to reopen. |
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Post by ktpelec on Feb 17, 2010 18:02:13 GMT -5
No matter what the media says, the economy hasn't recovered. Orders for autos are down across the board.
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Post by justaworker on Feb 17, 2010 20:27:07 GMT -5
No matter what the media says, the economy hasn't recovered. Orders for autos are down across the board. yeah, the economy is still crap. its hard to find a good job out there. but i think its slowly getting better. |
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Post by lap65 on Feb 17, 2010 22:28:06 GMT -5
I find it odd that Jan tried to talk me out of moving to Chicago Assembly, Telling me i needed to talk with Steve Stone first. Neither one of them acted as if my decission was a good one, but now I can see this crap was planned. Now watch Steve Stone run around and play dumb. He is as dirty as the inside of my truck fender was today. The time runs out to follow the product, and if for some reason a person doesn't get to work again, I doubt any of our union officials are going to take the blame for misinforming its members on what they already knew was going to happen. Our union is corrupt or incompetent! What is it about Steve trying to talk you out of it that makes you suspicious? I'm not defending him, I just don't understand what you are driving at. |
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Post by justaworker on Feb 17, 2010 22:55:55 GMT -5
I find it odd that Jan tried to talk me out of moving to Chicago Assembly, Telling me i needed to talk with Steve Stone first. Neither one of them acted as if my decission was a good one, but now I can see this crap was planned. Now watch Steve Stone run around and play dumb. He is as dirty as the inside of my truck fender was today. The time runs out to follow the product, and if for some reason a person doesn't get to work again, I doubt any of our union officials are going to take the blame for misinforming its members on what they already knew was going to happen. Our union is corrupt or incompetent! What is it about Steve trying to talk you out of it that makes you suspicious? I'm not defending him, I just don't understand what you are driving at. seems strange to me too. based on all the facts, those of us on ILO have 3 choices. 1. stay on ILO, run out of TAP money and benefits and wait for LAP to reopen. 2. go to chicago, keep recall rights and come home when LAP reopens. 3. go to chicago and have no recall rights. i think people are getting scared and jumping to option #3. and you really can't blame them. the company screwed us over already, and our union let them. |
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