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Post by meanjean on Mar 21, 2010 13:00:54 GMT -5
I'm really sorry I ever posted this on here. Didn't say I was shocked about it. I'm a team player, and just wanted to warn everyone in case they did it plant wide, being tournament time and all. I'll leave it alone next time, and you can take care of yourself.  |
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Mar 21, 2010 14:34:58 GMT -5
Ha ha...I'm glad you posted it meanjean...you sparked conversation, that is what this entire site is about. I appreciate your contributions.
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Post by lap65 on Mar 22, 2010 17:18:30 GMT -5
Ah yes, the no booing memo. That was hilarious, I had never heard anyone boo before that, but afterwards any time someone walked down the aisle they got booed, it was hysterical.
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Post by rockyt on Mar 22, 2010 19:24:50 GMT -5
I must have missed the "no booing memo" but we sure did hoot and hollar alot over on the rivet line.
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Post by kessinger on Mar 22, 2010 21:46:22 GMT -5
Don't be sorry you posted it mean jean. It is a real letter everyone. One like it pops up ever so often, when you are in paint they pass around one telling you what deoderant you can wear and most of it isn't even being made anymore ( FYI gel deoderants cause pitting). I can't keep them from posting it but will be involved on how they enforce it if they are being jackass'
You don't have to sign OIS sheets to get your ARPS. NEVER sign an OIS sheet or JSA that isn't 100% correct they will use it to burn you. If they threaten you call me and I will show them what a threat is. (#2409) Though they will deny ever doing it when I get there. Either way the problem will be solved.
The microwave thing they put out before talking to us and the teams trucked those microwaves out the door. We are working on a fix, but if the microwaves truely do screw up the equipment we will have to come up with a place to put them. I'm sure everyone can understand that I can't make them choose microwaves over the scanners we use to make trucks.
As far as plugging in radios. At this plant you weren't even allowed to have a radio when I hired in. The no plug in was part of the agreement to get them in here. As KTPelec said they will get all fussy for a week or so then forget about it. If they get on you about any of that during march madness call us. They aren't stupid, well not all of them, they know taking TV's and radios away from you now will make it very hard to run on gameday due to AWOLs going up.
Don't let things burn you up. If you feel like something is wrong let us know. We have SOOOO many people that just sign stuff or go off rumor instead of checking. Then everyone blames the union after the fact. The microwaves for example. Not one teamleader called me about them, a person I am friends with on the line called me as the teamleaders are taking them out the door.
I think I covered everything thats was brought up I will double check.
Oh no I didn't KTPking I still love you to. lol.
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Post by meanjean on Mar 23, 2010 1:09:58 GMT -5
Kess, nobody really argued the microwave thing because it was stated that they interfered with the antennae. We're not happy about it, but the reason for it doesn't leave much room for argument. Super showed team leaders the email he received on it on Thursday night, that said they had to be gone, no discussion, blah, blah, blah. My team leader showed me the email with the test report attached to it.
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Post by ktpking on Mar 23, 2010 2:25:28 GMT -5
Oh no I didn't KTPking I still love you to. lol.
I still love ya too Kess.... ;D
Did I write something that is not true in my post? Seriously, why can't the elected uaw members stay in their appointed areas? I believe we would not have the problems we have now if the elected uaw members were always on the floor in their appointed areas. Like I said in previous posts I worked in a union machine shop and our elected officals were always their working along with us. We never had a problem. Well you can say Ford is a bigger employer. Yes, but we have more elected members to represent us at Ford. I'm not trying to stirr the pot or make people mad. I'm just wondering why elected members do not stay in their appointed areas. Take for example the line foreman. We have several in our department. They stay in their assigned area. They are responsible for their lines in case something goes wrong. We have elected officals that are responsible for their lines or departments. We may or may not see them for days. I have heard the ole addage "why didn't you call me?". I guess I'm just old school.
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Post by ktpking on Mar 23, 2010 2:27:06 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I'm not elected or appointed BUT, I did stay in a Hoilday Inn last night..
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Post by ktpelec on Mar 23, 2010 6:10:47 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I'm not elected or appointed BUT, I did stay in a Hoilday Inn last night.. LMAO, I love the humorous side of you Ktpking. This is the first I have heard of the antenna test on the Cal line. I must have been left out of the loop there by Plant Systems, which is not unusual. Keep posting Meanjean, I appreciate the topics for discussion. I've tried to stop in and see you a few times Kessinger, but your always out of the office, I guess your out on the floor. |
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Post by kessinger on Mar 23, 2010 17:21:19 GMT -5
No ktpking you didn't say anything wrong, I was just messing with ya cause you seem so happy all the time. The vote keeps a Rep. in their area. If they don't do the job vote em out. Also remember that just because you can't see your committeeperson doesn't mean he's not in your area.
Could they do grievances and such on the floor. Yea, I guess they could but does it realy matter to you that much if he does it at a picnic table or at his desk where he has his contracts and grievance papers and a computer to pull up all the TWOS info or OT sheets he need for a grievance? If the person is doing the job right I realy doubt you care where he does parts of his job.
I say all the time "perception is reality." It realy doesnt matter what a committeeperson does, it matters what he is percieved to do. In my time on this job I have seen people who walk the floor non stop talking about anything but contract or union business. These same people almost never got anything done because they didnt even try. They played the numbers. You can get more votes doing nothing and being seen than you can taking on issues and not walking your area as much. The trick for a committeeperson is to find a balance, if they take on every ergo, safety, OIS, time standard or other issue you would never ever see them and you'd vote em out. If they don't take on these issues they aren't doing their job but will get many more votes for it.
That doesn't mean that I don't think some of them need to improve, some do, just giving you some food for thought.
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Post by kessinger on Mar 23, 2010 17:33:13 GMT -5
Oh and one other thing ktpking on the committeeperson on the line. The shop you worked at must have been small, when I was at UPS they worked on the line somewhere. I worked there three years and met two union reps. The one at my orientation, and I walked all the way across the plant to get wrote up once and he was too busy sorting boxes to realy give a damn what I was there for. I was written up without him even asking what happened or him stopping his sort. So, in my experience that was a bad way to do things.
*note...the supervisor that wrote me up works the line in frame now.
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Post by ktpking on Mar 24, 2010 1:55:19 GMT -5
Kess, post's like that is why I like ya!! I'm glad you are in the position you are but, I hate not having ya on the floor. Good trade off. I wish all the elected members were as accountible as you. Thanks for that quality. The shop I worked at was I thought at the time big, but working at Ford I realize how small it was. The union guy was super gung hoe. Did I spell that right? Looks weird.  |
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Mar 24, 2010 8:33:24 GMT -5
Oh and one other thing ktpking on the committeeperson on the line. The shop you worked at must have been small, when I was at UPS they worked on the line somewhere. I worked there three years and met two union reps. The one at my orientation, and I walked all the way across the plant to get wrote up once and he was too busy sorting boxes to realy give a damn what I was there for. I was written up without him even asking what happened or him stopping his sort. So, in my experience that was a bad way to do things. *note...the supervisor that wrote me up works the line in frame now. Well Mr. Kessinger, you can't drop that little tidbit about the supervisor from UPS working on the frameline without telling us who it is, now can you? |
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Post by marcus on Mar 24, 2010 15:43:37 GMT -5
Good stuff Kessinger.
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Post by kessinger on Mar 24, 2010 17:57:17 GMT -5
His name is Tony and he is more towards flip than you grunt. I'm not going to out him more than that......lol....he's been all union since he's been here. He actualy was good to work for.
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