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Post by marcus on Sept 28, 2010 17:54:18 GMT -5
Any of you guys going to the march on DC this sat?Look at this little list of the groups that are putting the March on.Great looking blue blood americans here.
Organizing for america(Obamas own group)
Democratic Socialists
American Muslim Association of North America
Chicago Democratic Socialists of America
Coffee Party Progressives
Committee of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism
Communication for Social Change Consortium
Communist Party USA (CPUSA)
Democratic Socialists of America
Detroit Democratic Socialists of America
International Socialist Organization
Progressive Congress Action Fund
Progressive Democrats of America
Progressive Democrats of America - NYS and NYC
Queers for Economic Justice
Wake up people!!
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Post by marcus on Sept 28, 2010 18:10:56 GMT -5
I cant get over how many Socialist groups and people we have in our country! Not long ago if these kind of groups got together in a march our president would condemn this crap.
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Post by nvsked1 on Sept 28, 2010 21:02:54 GMT -5
I cant get over how many Socialist groups and people we have in our country! Not long ago if these kind of groups got together in a march our president would condemn this crap. Free at last, Free at last |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2010 7:38:48 GMT -5
I cant get over how many Socialist groups and people we have in our country! Not long ago if these kind of groups got together in a march our president would condemn this crap. Free at last, Free at last No. You will pay for it comrade. |
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Post by dowhat on Oct 3, 2010 18:34:58 GMT -5
What is there to condemn?
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Post by marcus on Oct 4, 2010 18:50:12 GMT -5
Nothing if your a Socialist.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2010 9:43:44 GMT -5
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Post by driveshaftgrunt on Oct 10, 2010 17:12:28 GMT -5
Please marcus, give a specific definition of socialism today, and to what degree we are, or are not somewhat of a social democracy............
I'd be interested to hear it.
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Post by elmer on Oct 11, 2010 9:59:52 GMT -5
"Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future".
JFK
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Post by axleman on Oct 11, 2010 10:56:30 GMT -5
Please marcus, give a specific definition of socialism today, and to what degree we are, or are not somewhat of a social democracy............ I'd be interested to hear it. I think we are moving toward a "European style of socialism" Pure socialism (like the USSR) proved to be a failure. The European form is a more democratic form but I still believe it will ultimately fail into some form of dictatorship, as will our republic eventually, mostly due to corruption. Just my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2010 10:57:38 GMT -5
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Post by axleman on Oct 11, 2010 13:26:00 GMT -5
Please marcus, give a specific definition of socialism today, and to what degree we are, or are not somewhat of a social democracy............ I'd be interested to hear it. America has many programs that are socialistic by nature, Social security, Medicare, unemployment benefits, and now we may have the new health care plan that President Obama has signed into law. All these programs take money from one group to benefit another. That is Socialism. It rewards bad behavior, "why should I work hard when I can get the same benefits and not work" . This is the one of the biggest problems with organized labor. It takes away a persons ability to excel and promotes laziness. The country as a whole will become more divided than it already is. Corrupt politicians (from both parties) will continue to overspend till the whole economy collapses on itself. It will happen, the multi trillion dollar debt is already unpayable and they know it. It's just a matter of time! |
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Post by kessinger on Oct 11, 2010 14:06:26 GMT -5
Axle here is my issue with that. The union promotes equal treatment. Most of us, and I am sure yourself worked other places before we came here. Did the hardest worker get promoted? Or was it the pet or suckass. I don't think I ever worked in a place, including here, where the best person for the job normaly got the job. So yes, if the non union system realy promoted the hardest working it would be a great system, but we all know it rarely works that way.
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Post by axleman on Oct 11, 2010 14:15:15 GMT -5
Don't necessarily disagree with you Kess, the suckass or pets do get promoted sometimes. The suckasses get taken care of in the union system also, so I guess we're all just screwed. Thats life, but I do think we could do better in the UAW if they could just weed out a few bad eggs!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2010 14:21:13 GMT -5
Axle here is my issue with that. The union promotes equal treatment. Most of us, and I am sure yourself worked other places before we came here. Did the hardest worker get promoted? Or was it the pet or suckass. I don't think I ever worked in a place, including here, where the best person for the job normaly got the job. So yes, if the non union system realy promoted the hardest working it would be a great system, but we all know it rarely works that way. Exactly! In your own words "equal treatment!" The guy who AWOLS, plays the medical games, doesn't contribute as hard as the rest of us gets to make the same pay, even if he gets fired and the UAW gets him back on. Its not the best person that gets the job all the time. I have seen so many jobs get filled at LAP on favoritism or by being related to someone either in the UAW or Company level. Yea, the UAW got us our wages and benefits etc. But we all know the crack heads and drunks who don't want to work and they still get payed. If the UAW took a stand and got rid of the trash, I might have a better opinion of them. |
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Post by axleman on Oct 11, 2010 14:24:23 GMT -5
Axle here is my issue with that. The union promotes equal treatment. Most of us, and I am sure yourself worked other places before we came here. Did the hardest worker get promoted? Or was it the pet or suckass. I don't think I ever worked in a place, including here, where the best person for the job normaly got the job. So yes, if the non union system realy promoted the hardest working it would be a great system, but we all know it rarely works that way. Exactly! In your own words "equal treatment!" The guy who AWOLS, plays the medical games, doesn't contribute as hard as the rest of us gets to make the same pay, even if he gets fired and the UAW gets him back on. Its not the best person that gets the job all the time. I have seen so many jobs get filled at LAP on favoritism or by being related to someone either in the UAW or Company level. Yea, the UAW got us our wages and benefits etc. But we all know the crack heads and drunks who don't want to work and they still get payed. If the UAW took a stand and got rid of the trash, I might have a better opinion of them. BINGO! Give that man a C-GAR! |
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Post by marcus on Oct 11, 2010 18:03:55 GMT -5
analspasm
Great post.
We punish the people in this country that create the jobs by taxing them crazy amounts and then theres the EPA regs and all the other regs that go with it.
Social security, Medicare, unemployment benefits, and now we may have the new health care plan,farm subs, Cash for Clunkers
This administration has an unprecedented number of “czars” and advisors each assigned to work on specific areas of “transformation”. As White House chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel likes to say’ “Never let a crisis go to waste.” This administration is using legislation, regulation and manipulation to shape their transformational policies
Give me my money and let me take care of myself!! Thats what freedom is and no I dont just blame OBAMA its not just him.
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