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Post by kingofalldans on Dec 9, 2010 12:15:23 GMT -5
Buddy texted me that LAP will get Escape, and a future car that will be shown at car show next month.
Any other info?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 12:48:02 GMT -5
Said we could employ up to 2,900 at LAP. No comment was made on the Lincoln model Escape. Didnt get to hear much more then that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 13:19:58 GMT -5
How many workers from KCAP coming to LAP?
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Post by fuckugettelfinger on Dec 9, 2010 14:18:08 GMT -5
They haven't had sign ups at KCAP yet.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 14:22:23 GMT -5
They haven't had sign ups at KCAP yet. Keep us posted FG ;D
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Post by fuckugettelfinger on Dec 9, 2010 14:53:11 GMT -5
Our meeting is on Sunday....I am hoping they will have some info. Now that it isn't "top secret" anymore
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Dec 9, 2010 18:05:35 GMT -5
No mention of Focus overflow yet?
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Post by ackspac on Dec 9, 2010 19:17:38 GMT -5
No mention of Focus overflow yet? What I was told is that we will not get any Focus production. I'm still like
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Dec 9, 2010 19:41:31 GMT -5
So no 3-crew operation I assume...
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Dec 9, 2010 19:44:21 GMT -5
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Post by zj on Dec 9, 2010 20:01:32 GMT -5
So no 3-crew operation I assume... The union said that they will be surveying for the third crew in maybe march of 012, and we would hear more after that. Yes ford wants lap running 3 8 hour shifts, and said they would do what they had to do to make it happen.
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Post by fuckugettelfinger on Dec 9, 2010 20:40:20 GMT -5
from what I understand ford wants all their plants running with 3 shifts...they say it is more cost effective
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Post by rclap on Dec 9, 2010 22:13:51 GMT -5
Heard they were going to survey the KTP transfers in March, 2011 to see who's interested in returning.
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Post by rocketman on Dec 9, 2010 23:42:07 GMT -5
All ILO's would return to LAP before KTP and CAP RTBU's, right?
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Post by keithf on Dec 10, 2010 0:05:26 GMT -5
All ILO's would return to LAP before KTP and CAP RTBU's, right? From what I've been told all i'll and rtbu get lumped in together. Then they return by seniority
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Dec 10, 2010 0:41:58 GMT -5
I would assume above correct...how would someone on ilo b called back before an active employee with seniority?
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Dec 10, 2010 0:49:13 GMT -5
Everyone needed to run 2 shifts so most everyone will start the same day.
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Post by mysteryjim on Dec 10, 2010 4:29:39 GMT -5
There will be NO OVERFLOW of the FOCUS.........Michigan Assembly Plant Already has that and can handle the new product they're getting. 3 shifts soon to be up and running after the 1st 2 transfer back to the old (Michigan Truck Plant) and work the "bugs" out. Plenly of "new" jobs there once this happens!
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Post by lap65 on Dec 10, 2010 7:51:41 GMT -5
This is all great news, but I do think they are overblowing the number of people that will be working here, we're only getting back what we had before & should have never lost. Before all the buy out stuff started we had around 3000 employees, Mark Fields acted like 2900 people was an unheard of number.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 8:49:47 GMT -5
All ILO's would return to LAP before KTP and CAP RTBU's, right? This is going to start a shit storm but this is what I heard: Those that are coming from KTP and CAP might be last in line to come back to LAP. The reason is KTP and CAP will have to hire and train people for their jobs before anyone will be dismissed to come back to LAP. If hiring is going to occur at these plants it will need to be done within the next few months, and that is not happening. #2 Is that ILO's would be in line to get hired before any new hires that come to KTP.
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Post by zj on Dec 10, 2010 9:14:48 GMT -5
steve stone said at the meeting all rtbu and ilo's will be lumped together by seniority and hopes to have everyone back by sept 011, to start two shifts working together on days till sometime in jan 012 and then it goes to running 2 shifts. Then three later down the road.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 9:35:15 GMT -5
steve stone said at the meeting all rtbu and ilo's will be lumped together by seniority and hopes to have everyone back by sept 011, to start two shifts working together on days till sometime in jan 012 and then it goes to running 2 shifts. Then three later down the road. But think ahead: By having people from KTP coming back to LAP, they have to have people trained and on the job before they can leave KTP. For this to happen, KTP will need people to fill in these jobs. ILO's will be first in line for openings at KTP. So either KTP will get an abundance of ILO workers so the RTBU's can return to LAP or the UAW will go against their word and use new hires at KTP. Can someone who knows the contract definition look this up and post it please?
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Post by kentucky250s on Dec 10, 2010 10:00:50 GMT -5
i can already hear it, you cant go anywhere due to man power issues , what a mess this going to be
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Post by Jr on Dec 10, 2010 10:11:30 GMT -5
All ILO's would return to LAP before KTP and CAP RTBU's, right? This is going to start a shit storm but this is what I heard: Those that are coming from KTP and CAP might be last in line to come back to LAP. The reason is KTP and CAP will have to hire and train people for their jobs before anyone will be dismissed to come back to LAP. If hiring is going to occur at these plants it will need to be done within the next few months, and that is not happening. #2 Is that ILO's would be in line to get hired before any new hires that come to KTP. Yep don't know where it is in the contract but, being in zone I think they will have to call back all Ilo's before anybody is hired. Unless they work out some kind of shady deal again
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Post by PUNISHER on Dec 10, 2010 10:51:41 GMT -5
my guess is that they survey the ktp who have rtbu, then figure what they need for replacement of those workers and then fill positions with those on ilo.....but you never know...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 11:34:22 GMT -5
my guess is that they survey the ktp who have rtbu, then figure what they need for replacement of those workers and then fill positions with those on ilo.....but you never know... Sad thing is all the ILOs' were promised by Stone that they would be back at LAP, not KTP.
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Post by brizzel on Dec 10, 2010 11:34:46 GMT -5
Once KTP gets its grip on you, you are KTP's forever...... Bwah Bwah Bwah!! *sinister laugh*
The only guarantee to be at LAP, was to stay at LAP.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 11:36:04 GMT -5
Once KTP gets its grip on you, you are KTP's forever...... Bwah Bwah Bwah!! *sinister laugh* The only guarantee to be at LAP, was to stay at LAP..... ^^^This^^^
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Post by Grimace on Dec 10, 2010 12:38:34 GMT -5
We can run this around with different scenarios all day. When we're done the answer will be, whatever costs Ford the least amount of money. Ideally it would be a perfect world to get all of the ILO's, RTBU's, KCAP tranfers, and even any new hires or 2nd tiers, ready to go on exactly the same morning for training. I hope that's how it goes. I think that Ford would prefer this as well. I don't believe Ford will pay BIG$$$ to hire/train any current LAP ILO's for KTP when they already have someone doing the job. I would look for 2nd tiers to be agreed to for a short time window "nationally", maybe 3 weeks (even though there are unemployed UAW members) to replace all of the RTBU's and KCAP transfers. It's the simplest and most cost efficient way. (edit)In fact, it may be necessary for the party interested in going to LAP to voluntarily be laid off in order to make it in time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 13:13:17 GMT -5
Grimace, keep us posted on what you hear.
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