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Post by dave7293 on Apr 9, 2011 23:35:31 GMT -5
I attended a DAV meeting last Tuesday night in LaGrange and I was so proud to see that in a full parking lot there were no foreign vehicles there. All vehicles were Big Three. I couldn't`t believe it at first so I went down every isles and counted 52 vehicles and all Big Three. There weren`t even Big Three affiliates like Mazda for Ford. Thats cool.
You can`t even find that at a Big Three parking lot. ;D
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Post by JoePieper on Apr 10, 2011 0:03:40 GMT -5
I may not have always had a Ford but I can say I have NEVER owned a foreign brand. ALWAYS had one of the Big Three.
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Post by buckeyeinky on Apr 10, 2011 6:02:59 GMT -5
as long as it is union made i am fine with it
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Post by ragtop69 on Apr 10, 2011 18:11:42 GMT -5
My dad and uncle fought in WWII. I remember my uncle saying " I fought them sons a bitches I sure ain't gonna feed them" . Too bad we can't even say who was responsible for 9-11 for fear of offending somebody.
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Post by yermom on Apr 10, 2011 20:16:53 GMT -5
wouldn't all chrysler brands now be considerd foriegn vehicles since they are now owned by a foriegn company? just saying chrysler is no different than toyota and nissan and honda........... american made vehicles by foriegn owned companies. so i guess now with this line of thinking all chrysler products should be parked in the foriegn lot?  |
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Post by dave7293 on Apr 10, 2011 23:59:27 GMT -5
Chrysler owners is the American tax payer and the IUAW not a foreign company. When they pay off their debt to the tax payers and the IUAW then you might be able to say that. |
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Apr 11, 2011 8:04:19 GMT -5
If your employer didn't manufacture what you drive, it should be parked in the foreign lot...period. I never understood how there was ever any gray area as to what you should be driving. I always figured if you had to provide reasons/excuses for what you drive, you kinda feel guilty?
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Post by tomcat on Apr 11, 2011 13:47:59 GMT -5
I've never had a desire to own a foreign vehicle, but I shouldn't feel obligated to only buy what my employer produces. I give them my time and energy for a wage and benefits, not for my right of choice. Every vehicle in my driveway is a Ford, but if I found a good deal on something else and that benefits my family the most that's what I'm going to do.
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Post by marcus on Apr 11, 2011 15:29:58 GMT -5
Work for ford drive fords.If you find a 500 deal on something you can find a 500 dollar deal on a ford no excuse,just do it!
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Post by tryingtomakeit on Apr 11, 2011 19:16:39 GMT -5
If your employer didn't manufacture what you drive, it should be parked in the foreign lot...period. I never understood how there was ever any gray area as to what you should be driving. I always figured if you had to provide reasons/excuses for what you drive, you kinda feel guilty? No excuse here. Gotta great deal on a used GM. Fit the budget, fit the needs. Buying used doesnt hurt Ford in the least. Feel guilty? Not at all. Do I care what anybody thinks? Couldnt give a rats ass. Plus the walk is good for me. The one thing Ill never understand is the people that "HATE" Ford, but break their neck to give their pay right back to the company they hate buying one new car after another. No thanks, Ill keep my money. If I buy new, its a Ford. But if its used, its, American, price, need. In that order. |
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Apr 11, 2011 20:39:45 GMT -5
I can agree with your assessment...used really doesn't matter as long as you don't mind walking...good post.
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Post by ktpfordsparky on Apr 13, 2011 3:23:09 GMT -5
Sorry, can't agree with you guys claiming "it doesn't matter if you buy/drive a Used vehicle other than a Ford if it's American."
1. It won't matter to your neighbor either, he/she sees you have no confidence in your product. Why should they buy it if you won't? Perhaps they can only afford Used at this point; the idea is to get them to love the BRAND. The Quality, feel, control positions of a Ford. With our rise in quality and popularity it's "cool " to own a Ford again, it's not just your Grandpa's Crown Vic. (P.S. The Vics a great car!) Maybe next time they'll buy that NEW Super Duty after owning a used one.
2. Buying a used Ford keeps Resale and Trade-in values up! (Supply/Demand)
3. If a Used Ford has a high resale value some people will opt for new as the difference between the two prices decrease.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Apr 13, 2011 7:24:31 GMT -5
I would never buy anything other than a Ford product...period...never have, never will.
But if someone else has to buy something else...buy a used one.
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Post by jkiel on Apr 13, 2011 7:36:15 GMT -5
Over the years, some of our coworkers have had parents or spouses work at GM or Chrysler, so that Ford worker bought one of those products. I still disagree. I don't care if your whole family works at GM or Chrysler---if you are getting a Ford paycheck, you need to buy, drive, and promote Ford products. YOUR paycheck depends on people buying Fords.  |
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Post by thedogg"93 on Apr 13, 2011 7:49:20 GMT -5
you guys kill me ! i bet the house you live in is union made also specially the drywalls ! if unions didn't have such a bad reputation Honda, Toyota, Nissan in America would be unionized..
but people now are supporting tea parters and republicans who are giving unions a bad reputation, but the union executives are doing a Gettelfinger by letting this get out hand... we are losing the fight with cooperate America and the Koch's of Wisconsin.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Apr 13, 2011 9:05:49 GMT -5
We are talking about supporting the hand that feeds you...Ford does not make drywall. It really isn't that hard to comprehend...if you refuse to buy Fords because you are anti-union, then shame on you for doing so.
But to compare Toyota and the others for not having a union is pathetic...they get the benefits of the union without having to pay union dues. They have to pay their employees in G'town wages similar, or even better than ours, to keep the union out. Therefore, they already benefit from unions in many ways without realizing it.
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Post by thedogg"93 on Apr 13, 2011 10:11:47 GMT -5
yea, i comprehend I'm lucky to have a job and collect my few dollars on Friday and hope to get back what i gave up over the past 4 yrs, ooh heres your a-plan price for your new ford gee is that all ! thanks for being a ford employee for 20 to 30 years i feel your patriotism...
thanks for your opinion Scott but that's all it is....
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Post by shortee on Apr 13, 2011 10:32:08 GMT -5
Hey I had bought ford products my whole 14yrs here a total of 6 and after 4 of them constantly stayed in the shop after 30,000 miles with expensive repairs the Ford started to screw us and take evervything from us while ceo's didn't take no cuts so i bought a used GM in 2007 just cost i was tired of taking money and time out to keep going to the shop plus FORD was no longer LOYAL so why is everyone worried about what the next man or woman is driving when FORD is not LOYAL to us thats the key word. Why should i be LOYAL to a company thats not LOYAL to us. I will buy another ford when they become LOYAL again which looks like never lol. They screwed us on profit sharing and a truck load of concessions> but at least i bought union made product doesn't that matter any more or maybe not since the Union has lost control of everything cause if we get screwed on this next contract FORD may go down cause employees are tired of all this bullshit and starting not to give a fuck anymore just watch and see if quality don't go straight down the shitter sorry i just needed to release> THIS IS MY OPINION AND PREDICTIONS
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Post by kingofalldans on Apr 13, 2011 10:32:11 GMT -5
If your employer didn't manufacture what you drive, it should be parked in the foreign lot...period. I never understood how there was ever any gray area as to what you should be driving. I always figured if you had to provide reasons/excuses for what you drive, you kinda feel guilty? No excuse here. Gotta great deal on a used GM. Fit the budget, fit the needs. Buying used doesnt hurt Ford in the least. Feel guilty? Not at all. Do I care what anybody thinks? Couldnt give a rats ass. Plus the walk is good for me. The one thing Ill never understand is the people that "HATE" Ford, but break their neck to give their pay right back to the company they hate buying one new car after another. No thanks, Ill keep my money. If I buy new, its a Ford. But if its used, its, American, price, need. In that order. True! |
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Apr 13, 2011 12:03:01 GMT -5
I consider myself lucky because I've never owned a POS Ford...have had many great vehicles.
And you are right, we can all sit here and debate this topic forever, but no one can tell anyone on here how to spend their money.
Some feel like they have to buy Made in USA all the time...I support my employer, that's about all.
If Ford made motorcycles and atvs, I would own a couple...but they don't.
I would have no problem buying a used vehicle from GM, but I would never drive it to work.
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Post by goodtime on Apr 13, 2011 12:56:01 GMT -5
I agree that you should spend your money where you want, but then there should be no whining about being laid off or moved across the country when your plant closes their doors. When your neighbor sees you drive a different brand, that has to weigh on their opinion on buying a ford product or not. I also dont understand how the union gets the blame for the company's actions. At least we have a greivance procedure to follow, toyota dont. Also, if the job sucks, ford sucks, union sucks, why did you not take buyout when offered? Life's to short to be unhappy. |
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Post by marcus on Apr 13, 2011 18:15:10 GMT -5
Unlike most I buy american when ever I can because it matters and you can all see now with gas and jobs like they are it does matter.Weaker dollar, higher prices and less jobs equal less tax money and on and on.Be american Buy american is all Im saying.
But one more time nobody gives a shit unless its effects there job.
Yes I drive only Fords
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Post by ktpelec on Apr 14, 2011 6:32:44 GMT -5
When I have a relative or friend that will possibly buy a new car, I just ask them to please "consider" a Ford, look at and/or test drive one. I have had them use many of my A and X plans over the years. That's as far as I can go, you can't force people to do things, they have to make thier own decisions. Everyone has different priorities, and always will.
I still look at all types of vehicles, I love to browse the lots. When I buy new, it's a Ford, the A-plan pricing is a great incentive for me personally.
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Post by thedogg"93 on Apr 14, 2011 6:35:40 GMT -5
wow...thats some very strong convictions to your company and its success ! since most of us are UAW union employees and concerned about our brothers who work here and other plants, why is it 70 percent vote republican in elections ! thats not good for UAW members......
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Apr 14, 2011 6:53:11 GMT -5
How did you come to the conclusion that 70% of the union members vote straight republican? I would say it's closer to 30-40%?
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Apr 14, 2011 6:53:51 GMT -5
Maybe it's the same people that refuse to support their employer...they hate Ford, they hate the UAW, so they hate the democratic party?
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Post by kessinger on Apr 14, 2011 7:16:40 GMT -5
Its not about being loyal to Ford. They have never, NEVER, been loyal to the hourly work force.
It's about being loyal to yourself and the people that work around you. Its about being proud of what you and other union people you work with make. Keeping union people employed and working. It affects you and those you work with's TESPHE, profit sharing, if the company makes money its easier for the union to argue to get you more, instead of less when they aren't making money.
It's not at all about being loyal to Ford be loyal to yourself. Or at least be loyal to America if its possible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2011 10:23:07 GMT -5
absolutely correct kess. it must be frustrating to have to explain the obvious,again and again.
now,the important stuff. wheres my damn robocall?
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Post by shortee on Apr 18, 2011 10:31:10 GMT -5
Ok i agree Kess but im looking into a new explorer but waiting til contract time incase they try to take more money away before i get into more debt
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Post by almost30 on Apr 18, 2011 12:28:18 GMT -5
Good grief....
thedogg'93 says "I'm lucky to have a job and collect my few dollars on Friday..." FEW dollars??? Dude, go try to find a job that pays +$1100 a week straight time. With ANY benefits, vacation, personal time etc. You had your money taken away with concerssions, we all did...it's called a concession for a reason..we conceded some benefits and money to KEEP Ford operating. Don't expect Ford to say "thanks", but then don't whine because they "took" it from you. You gave it up too. If you don't like the loss of pay and benefits and the "few dollars on Friday"..don't let the door hit you on the way out. The rest of us will suck it up, put on our big boy pants and try to get back what we gave up.
Now...shortee uses the word "LOYAL" at least 5 times. When you hired in, who the hell promised you "loyalty" from ford? I don't remember that promise when I hired in. All they told me was, "You come to work, you do your job, and we'll pay you. And at the end of 30 years we'll give you a company paid pension." No one promised me "loyalty", just a job. And so far they've kept that promise. And I've kept mine..I come to work, I do my job and I spend the money they pay me. and in a few years I hope to get that pension that they mentioned.
shortee..you want "LOYALTY"?? Buy a damned dog...
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