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Post by thintwowin on Apr 20, 2011 16:16:41 GMT -5
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Post by dave7293 on Apr 20, 2011 16:43:15 GMT -5
This could go either way. I hope this is some kind of genius plan but the story makes you think it favors Ford. I hope King is not selling us out...... I do think he is still upset on our last vote that embarrassed the whole IUAW. The IUAW has not impressed me at all lately.
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Post by marcus on Apr 20, 2011 18:29:20 GMT -5
wow
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Apr 20, 2011 19:30:31 GMT -5
does not matter who the target may be...they all still want the same thing...freeze of everything we have now...big signing bonus to ease the pain and suffering of making the same hourly wage for the next 20 years. regardless of target, initial vote has to b a no unless we get COLA and raises back to begin with.
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Post by dave7293 on Apr 21, 2011 0:09:52 GMT -5
ok i`ll vote yes if the signing bonus is $100,000. in cash small bills only. ;D
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Post by beenaround on Apr 21, 2011 7:28:51 GMT -5
That's a novel idea Dave7293. Just add no taxes at all to be taken out. That would make everybody think a little harder.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Apr 21, 2011 8:35:27 GMT -5
You have to remember your pension is based on your hourly wage...I would hope my pension payment would be more in 12 years than the others that retired 5 years ago...but the way we are going, it will be exactly the same. We need yearly raises...
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Post by lap65 on Apr 21, 2011 9:10:14 GMT -5
I retire in 12 years also, the way things are going I'll be surprised if we have a pension or health insurance either in 12 years.
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Post by ktpsparky on Apr 21, 2011 9:33:59 GMT -5
On a related note...
$56.6M + $26.5M = $83.1M
Now, think about this...
$83.1M / 365 days = $227671 per day (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Now that's"One Ford, One Team" and "Equity of Sacrifice" Mulally style!
If I earned $227000 per day I would be "good where I'm at" too.
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Post by ktpsparky on Apr 21, 2011 9:38:40 GMT -5
btw
thats only about 1300 times the average workers pay for 2010 (based on $64k profit sharing average.)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 10:04:22 GMT -5
scott: youre right on target brother.
so much bitching about what alan makes. was anyone praising bill ford when he was running the company into the ground for no salary? i dont think so.
what the ceo makes doesnt have much to do with us,really. the company pays him what they think he is worth. some people look at you and me and say the same things about us!!!
if you think you are qualified,send out your ceo resumes!!!!!
opinions about,and envy of the ceo salary will get us nothing at the bargaining table. we have to show we are worth what we are asking for. then we have to stand together and vote no til we get it,or at least get some gains. what we gave up very quickly will not come back as fast,even in the best case scenario.
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Post by lewis on Apr 21, 2011 13:00:00 GMT -5
Ar15 the thing is I sort of look at it like you do....you are worth what somebody Is willing to pay you, as with athletes that play a sport the love and make 30 million a year with salary and endorsements! The thing is we or I should say most of us can't relate to athletes we're not in that field, but we are in the making automobiles and while no one should deny Mullaly turned it around and should get Millions if Ford is willing to pay it, however we were part of it to for putting quality Vehicles together....so all I'm saying is don't keep trying to take or freeze shit!
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Post by rocketman on Apr 22, 2011 19:16:33 GMT -5
Just saw on FOXNews that GM claims it will be the #1 in the world by year's end...Remember, they made about $6 billion in profilt last year and paid $0 in taxes...
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