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Post by midnightshiftvisit on Mar 12, 2012 16:55:09 GMT -5
Does anyone have any info on AWS? if this is a done deal, why not any info?  |
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Post by Mr Happy on Mar 27, 2012 19:35:20 GMT -5
Because no one can tell us the days we are looking at,basically it sucks give up your premium pay,every other weekend mandatory and then the best one for night shift people....most schedules have 2 or 3 days off at a time so how can you have a normal life when you'll never have anything regular, I dont think it is going over to well at map and chicago
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Post by ktpelec on Mar 30, 2012 17:52:38 GMT -5
All these Skilled Trades AWS rumors have been based on production going to a 3 crew build operation.
I will believe it when it happens.
3 Crew existed at KTP several years ago but it was very difficult for the plant to run it. There were lots of parts shortages due to supplier problems and the Body and Paint Depts could not keep up with Final Assembly.
The economy will dictate what actually happens.
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Post by TonyV on Apr 5, 2012 23:05:02 GMT -5
Very wise words brother.
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Post by Mr Happy on May 15, 2012 21:53:11 GMT -5
All these Skilled Trades AWS rumors have been based on production going to a 3 crew build operation. I will believe it when it happens. 3 Crew existed at KTP several years ago but it was very difficult for the plant to run it. There were lots of parts shortages due to supplier problems and the Body and Paint Depts could not keep up with Final Assembly. The economy will dictate what actually happens. Well you can toss that economy idea out the friggin window as the AWS officially starts June 11th for LAP look for it at KTP in the distant future...... |
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Post by imdadd on May 16, 2012 17:42:15 GMT -5
What AWS is LAP looking at. Is it the same as MAP and CAP??
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Post by ktpelec on May 16, 2012 17:59:10 GMT -5
Yes, it is already in use at Mich, Chicago, and KC, and I was told will be implemented in all Ford plants eventually.
We were surveyed this week for a schedule preference, 4 different crews will be used, 2 on days, 2 on nights, working 12 hour shifts. There are 2 different 2 week work plans, a 4/3 and a 5/2. Every shift will work every other weekend. Time and 1/2 pay will be paid after 10 hours, double time after 10 hours on Sunday.
There are more details concerning night shift differential and Holiday pay.
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Post by Mr Happy on May 16, 2012 18:31:45 GMT -5
Same here at Lap as far as crews any other info has been sketchy at best.....
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Post by ktpelec on May 17, 2012 4:55:39 GMT -5
Ive been at LAP for months.....I guess I need another user name.....
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Post by Mr Happy on May 17, 2012 16:19:56 GMT -5
New user name lol...yes, heard KTP started the survey process this week for the aws?? Not confirmed
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Post by ktpelec on May 17, 2012 16:32:24 GMT -5
I hadn't heard that but it is possible, don't see why they would yet though, it's only needed for a 3-Crew Production operation.
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Post by Mr Happy on May 21, 2012 20:23:15 GMT -5
I hadn't heard that but it is possible, don't see why they would yet though, it's only needed for a 3-Crew Production operation. Thats different than what I've read, everything I've seen on the AWS has said it's a cost cutting measure that will be implemented in all North American plants.... |
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Post by ktpelec on May 22, 2012 7:57:43 GMT -5
Yes, my thoughts exactly, anything it takes for more profit...
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Post by beenaround on May 22, 2012 14:49:42 GMT -5
No survey has been given at KTP concerning an AWS work schedule.
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Post by niteshiftfromkc on May 23, 2012 9:40:04 GMT -5
I didn't know that normal 3 shift schedule is the AWS. KC is on the traditional 3 shift schedule right now. We were on a 5 crew schedule while building the Escape. We had 3 shifts on normal 40 hour schedule and two weekend crews working 12 hours Sat and Sun with one day through the week at 12 hours. This was a great schedule.
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Post by midnightshiftvisit on May 23, 2012 11:34:21 GMT -5
The AWS that we are going to is a 4 crew schedule, one group will have Mondays and Tuesdays as their normal off days and the other group will be off Thurs and Fridays. You will work every other Sat and Sun. It will be 12 hour shifts, straight time the first 10 hours and 1 1/2 for two hours. We were surveyed last week, suppose to hear something soon, it takes affect Monday June 11.
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Post by ktpelec on May 23, 2012 11:39:49 GMT -5
I didn't know that normal 3 shift schedule is the AWS. KC is on the traditional 3 shift schedule right now. We were on a 5 crew schedule while building the Escape. We had 3 shifts on normal 40 hour schedule and two weekend crews working 12 hours Sat and Sun with one day through the week at 12 hours. This was a great schedule. I was told by a new arriving KC tradesman that several different schedules had been used in different areas in the plant, I was led to believe it involved the AWS now being started at LAP. Sorry if this is incorrect. We used the 5 Crew Skilled Trades schedule at KTP some years ago when the 3 Crew production schedule was in effect. It was very good in my opinion. The 4 Crew AWS uses less people though so the company desires it. |
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Post by midnightshiftvisit on May 23, 2012 11:41:40 GMT -5
This will accomodate the 3 crews of production, but doing it now will make sure that there are trades there at work 7 days a week, they are having manpower problems on Saturdays, people are getting tired.
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Post by ktpelec on May 23, 2012 11:44:50 GMT -5
Its being done to cut Skilled Trades labor costs primarily. It will utilize less people than the formentioned 5 Crew, and require 12 hour shifts at less overtime pay.
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Post by Mr Happy on May 23, 2012 16:10:55 GMT -5
Its being done to cut Skilled Trades labor costs primarily. It will utilize less people than the formentioned 5 Crew, and require 12 hour shifts at less overtime pay. Bingo we have a winner!! Did I miss read it or wasn't the list supposed to be out today??? I guess it's too much to ask to give us a little extra time to rearrange our lives.... |
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Post by midnightshiftvisit on May 30, 2012 17:08:23 GMT -5
The list is out and still no one can answer any questions about it, I guess we will figure all of it out in time, kind of like the contract, a page at a time.
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Post by Mr Happy on Jun 5, 2012 21:23:45 GMT -5
What a clusterf@ck as of Tuesday we've had at least 5 revisions that I've seen....so much for seven days notice LMFAO  |
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Post by Mgoblue on Jun 7, 2012 1:16:20 GMT -5
Can someone post an actual schedule going to be used at lap when it becomes available?
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Post by ktpelec on Jun 7, 2012 4:45:53 GMT -5
Go blue, there will actually 2 different work schedules. 2 day crews, 2 night crews, 7 to 7. One crew will have Mon. & Tues. Off, the other Thurs. & Fri. Both crews work every other weekend. Every 2 weeks it repeats. I'll try to post a copy.
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Post by Mgoblue on Jun 7, 2012 4:54:12 GMT -5
thank you, having a hard time visualizing this!
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Post by grimbold on Jun 7, 2012 7:10:14 GMT -5
Go blue, there will actually 2 different work schedules. 2 day crews, 2 night crews, 7 to 7. One crew will have Mon. & Tues. Off, the other Thurs. & Fri. Both crews work every other weekend. Every 2 weeks it repeats. I'll try to post a copy. Every other Wednesday, too. 12 hr shifts 7-7 (Sun-Sat): Group 1 off - work - work - off - off - off - work work - work - work - work - off - off - off Group 2 work - off - off - work - work - work - off off - off - off - off - work - work - work |
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Post by itsnotmyjob on Jun 7, 2012 15:06:30 GMT -5
this schedule sucks it is cutting out some of our skilled trades and they go back on the line....tsk tsk tsk.....so sad!!!
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Post by ktpelec on Jun 7, 2012 19:52:59 GMT -5
No it's not cutting anyone out, if anything they won't have enough of certain trades...
Only people that were previously line workers can "go back"...
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Post by Mgoblue on Jun 7, 2012 23:00:53 GMT -5
thanks for the info guys.
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Hello when was our last skilled trades meeting?