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Post by antbanks on Dec 12, 2014 6:09:16 GMT -5
What is the company policy, on releasing an unfinished delta job.
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Post by whiskerfish1 on Dec 12, 2014 6:32:11 GMT -5
I am not sure myself but make sure you document everything !!!
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Post by noneoftheabove on Dec 12, 2014 6:52:37 GMT -5
All delta jobs are NOT supposed to leave your station unfinished!! Than again your at Lap and nothing is how its supposed to be!!!
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Post by lap65 on Dec 12, 2014 12:25:34 GMT -5
Seen it happen many times, just a few months ago with seat belts, ran hundreds of them & repaired them out on chassis. If its a delta job, it is not supposed get out of its assigned area period. That's why its a delta job, but the union let them get away with it. If I were on a delta job I would refuse to let it run, they could take me up front or whatever they wanted to do but I would not do it. If some one gets killed because of a faulty or improperly installed seatbelt or whatever it is, I would feel responsible.
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Post by nra4life on Dec 12, 2014 13:34:04 GMT -5
Had this occur on a job i was on about 5 years ago. I called the 1-800 quality hotline. Didnt go over real well with superintindent but they were at my work station at 5:45 am the next morning. At 6 am they, 3 of them, had me off my job & did basically an hour long question/answer session with me. Not sure what ever became of it but i do know the problem never happened again. You have a real issue, call them, but be ready because they will be there to find out what is going on.
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Post by antbanks on Dec 12, 2014 16:23:20 GMT -5
I talk to Barry Ford, he will be back in town next week. Coming to talk to me about it.We both had this discussion before. What he told me, the andon button should be used If your delta job is not completed. This is a Ford Motor Company policy. So, can you be fired not using it. Going to find out.
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Post by antbanks on Dec 12, 2014 16:26:11 GMT -5
Think we should all ask our plant manager about this. I am going too.
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Post by lap65 on Dec 13, 2014 1:00:17 GMT -5
What in the world is an andon? Are u talking about the stop button?
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Post by justaworker on Dec 13, 2014 1:29:51 GMT -5
Quantity is all they care about anymore. In the long run, that's going to hurt us all. Fixing stuff later, running without parts...... In the immediate, it looks great on paper. Yay, we built 748 cars. But in the end, it's cutting corners and should never happen.
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Post by lineman on Dec 27, 2014 18:23:07 GMT -5
This has happened multiple times with air bags and seat belts. with plant super making the call to run without part or wrong part then changing it out later.. UT's spent have a shift changing out seatbelts in the parking lot using flashlights and hand tools. Can't imagine what will happen with a recall...
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Post by notmadatyou on Jan 11, 2015 1:32:20 GMT -5
So, I work a delta job on B-Crew and am a new hire (more than 90 days.) In my area of the plant, you just don't let the line go down. It's not only frowned on by management, but also by the guy on the line next to you. I was told by everyone from my trainer to management that we don't let the line go down. I have been told by probably 10 different people that I'm supposed to back off and re-shoot a previous part of the job before I let the red light come on. So my question is, what exactly would happen to me if I didn't release with concern or double shoot a previous screw? What happens if I don't let the job leave my area? I haven't had personal contact with my committeeman in well over a month and a friend called him 5 times to figure out how to go on medical and never was called back. Doesn't invoke very much confidence on his ability to defend me.
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Post by justaworker on Jan 11, 2015 2:07:37 GMT -5
My advice, for what it's worth, do your job the way it's described on the sheets. And don't worry about stopping the line, it happens. Often, it's the only way to get issues resolved. If you like, inbox me your name, area you work in, and I will get your committee person over there to answer your questions.
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Post by antbanks on Feb 3, 2015 3:18:56 GMT -5
For Delta job issues, notify your Process Coach or Team Leaders immediately. If no response within three workstations , the line should be shut down. The Process Coach or Team Leader are not to turn the line back on without consulting with the operator who halted the line for a Delta issue. This is word from word of the company policy.
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Post by antbanks on Feb 3, 2015 3:28:17 GMT -5
You cant be instructed by management not to hit your and on button. If you are, call your union. They will come down on them. I know, I work on a Delta job and been using my and on button.
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Post by ihatemyjob on Feb 3, 2015 10:55:30 GMT -5
What the hell is an and on button?
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Post by antbanks on Feb 3, 2015 12:23:14 GMT -5
The yellow button to release a DELTA JOB.
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Post by jsf on Feb 3, 2015 12:27:26 GMT -5
Andon buttons are the three push buttons on every operations the green button calls your team leader, the red button stops the line, the yellow button is for Quality issues which will stop the line if no one responds and turns it off in a certain amount of time... Hope this explains the andon buttons to the ones that didn't know
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Post by lap65 on Feb 3, 2015 15:38:30 GMT -5
Been here 23 yrs & never heard it called that. Lol
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Post by jsf on Feb 3, 2015 18:06:38 GMT -5
They started calling it that after we came back from retool.
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Post by jobs1stb4polarbear on Feb 3, 2015 18:55:12 GMT -5
Andon is a manufacturing term referring to a system to notify management, maintenance, and other workers of a quality or process problem. The centrepiece is a signboard incorporating signal lights to indicate which workstation has the problem.-w
On Delta jobs, I ask the operators to hit both the green and yellow buttons, I don't want that unit leaving my zone until I or process coach knowing about it. The line will stop!
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Post by ihatemyjob on Feb 3, 2015 19:34:15 GMT -5
Oh ok. Thanks for the explanation. Never heard that term. I never hit the yellow or green buttons, only the red.
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Post by antbanks on Feb 5, 2015 19:33:23 GMT -5
And for B and C crew who are releasing DELTA JOBS with concerns. You are violating a FORD MOTOR COMPANY policy and a Government standard. Just ask your union rep.
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Post by antbanks on Feb 5, 2015 19:37:24 GMT -5
Just remember, we get paid by the hour.
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Post by justaworker on Feb 5, 2015 20:13:52 GMT -5
Just remember, we get paid by the hour. These new hires dont understand that. They are more worried about their supervisor being mad at them. Not their fault, they all came in together with little higher seniority to show them the ropes. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 20:48:55 GMT -5
I think Angie Runner is who needs to be notified about this on the union side. She has no fear to shut the line down.
I may be wrong but I think she was on top of this 2 years ago.
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Post by antbanks on Feb 5, 2015 21:27:14 GMT -5
Yes, Angie is the person I talk to about this. Also Barry Ford. Anyone and everyone can get a copy of the company policy of releasing a Delta Job. I have mine on my person at all time at work.
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Post by lap65 on Feb 5, 2015 22:06:59 GMT -5
a crew does it too. I talked to Barry Ford & he basically said, they can do that.
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Post by antbanks on Feb 6, 2015 1:04:58 GMT -5
That who can do what? Also I am on A crew.
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Post by lap65 on Feb 6, 2015 9:17:41 GMT -5
Run vehicles without seat belts, hundreds of them & install the seats belts later, even though its a delta job.
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Post by antbanks on Feb 6, 2015 9:56:17 GMT -5
1-800 QUALITY HOTLINE. I think we must start calling this #. To reinstate, the and on yellow button is a company policy to release DELTA jobs. Its on your OSU sheet. Ask your union rep for a copy. One question for you, who has the authority to instruct you not to follow FORD MOTOR COMPANY POLICY?
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