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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Apr 12, 2019 13:02:23 GMT -5
Anybody else get a chuckle out of Allen Hughes asking everyone to show support for this and show up to vote?
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Post by rockyt on Apr 12, 2019 14:03:33 GMT -5
That’s funny!
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Post by nra4life on Apr 12, 2019 14:31:00 GMT -5
Irony: a guy that walked around asking everyone to vote yes on giving up your right to go on strike now asking for you to vote yes to go on strike to show the company we mean business. Lol, can’t make this stuff up
I like Allen, he is a nice guy, but I can’t believe one person voted for him to lead us. Stay safe people.
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Post by thintwowin on Apr 12, 2019 15:03:40 GMT -5
Irony: a guy that walked around asking everyone to vote yes on giving up your right to go on strike now asking for you to vote yes to go on strike to show the company we mean business. Lol, can’t make this stuff up I like Allen, he is a nice guy, but I can’t believe one person voted for him to lead us. Stay safe people. Same here. I can’t believe one person voted for him. After the stuff that he put out on more give backs after we had already gave so much. Blows me away. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Apr 13, 2019 7:41:54 GMT -5
We still need to show up and vote ..Regardless of our feelings about the BC.
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Apr 13, 2019 14:39:12 GMT -5
We still need to show up and vote ..Regardless of our feelings about the BC. Most definitely, even though after what happened after last contract, I don't think our corrupt Union will ever strike on Ford. I was proud of KTP voting it down, but by grace of God, or should I say, ole' deep pockets himself Sheckles saved the day. Went to the last plant to vote and gave a wo is me speech on behalf of Ford and passed 51% yes 49% no. |
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Post by saugerman on Apr 13, 2019 18:46:07 GMT -5
We still need to show up and vote ..Regardless of our feelings about the BC. Most definitely, even though after what happened after last contract, I don't think our corrupt Union will ever strike on Ford. I was proud of KTP voting it down, but by grace of God, or should I say, ole' deep pockets himself Sheckles saved the day. Went to the last plant to vote and gave a wo is me speech on behalf of Ford and passed 51% yes 49% no. The number 51 sure shows up at a lot of votes for some odd reason |
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Post by machination on Apr 14, 2019 11:36:23 GMT -5
I bet this will be the first time the strike AUTHORIZATION vote will fail because it's purpose won't be adequately explained to the new people and they'll think it's a vote TO strike.
And if it fails we'll lose our biggest bargaining chip whether or not anyone thinks we'll actually strike.
Wage progression will go from 8 years to 20, and the young people will discover just how much they can actually be hurt economically simply by indifference and willful stupidity.
Enjoy.
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Apr 14, 2019 14:40:48 GMT -5
I bet this will be the first time the strike AUTHORIZATION vote will fail because it's purpose won't be adequately explained to the new people and they'll think it's a vote TO strike. And if it fails we'll lose our biggest bargaining chip whether or not anyone thinks we'll actually strike. Wage progression will go from 8 years to 20, and the young people will discover just how much they can actually be hurt economically simply by indifference and willful stupidity. Enjoy. I've noticed that also. It almost seems like a scare tactic by our own union against the noobies. Sad |
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Post by machination on Apr 14, 2019 16:31:04 GMT -5
I bet this will be the first time the strike AUTHORIZATION vote will fail because it's purpose won't be adequately explained to the new people and they'll think it's a vote TO strike. And if it fails we'll lose our biggest bargaining chip whether or not anyone thinks we'll actually strike. Wage progression will go from 8 years to 20, and the young people will discover just how much they can actually be hurt economically simply by indifference and willful stupidity. Enjoy. I've noticed that also. It almost seems like a scare tactic by our own union against the noobies. Sad It's not that. It's good that each contract the membership has to confer striking power onto the international. It helps to project an image of solidarity and legitimacy, while giving us some protection in case we have true lunatics for leaders (think those world socialist worker guys). The strike auth vote wouldn't be an effective scare tactic because it's more likely to result in "no" votes from uneducated new members which would weigh towards its failure. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Apr 14, 2019 16:37:41 GMT -5
This is why WE should explain to the new ones it’s a bargaining tool..Only to be used in dire conditions.Voting yes doesn’t authorize a strike,it simply means WE CAN AND WILL STRIKE IF ALL ELSE FAILS..Which most likely WILL NOT HAPPEN
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Apr 14, 2019 18:46:00 GMT -5
Yes, the noobies for sure need to wise up since most will be in here 40 to 50 years before eligble for retirement from abusing FMLA lol
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Post by agslater on Apr 14, 2019 20:03:22 GMT -5
Yes, the noobies for sure need to wise up since most will be in here 40 to 50 years before eligble for retirement from abusing FMLA lol Coming from a " newbie" this is very true. You guys should see how many people on B have fmla. Its incredible. Even the other day I was converting an awol into a personal day up front and 10 people ahead of me in line all said " fmla" for missing. And its not only used for missing days apparently. A guy uses fmla on our team to take 30 minute bathroom breaks. No shit he takes 1.5-2 hours worth of breaks every night. And hes perfectly fine. Fucks the whole team up every night. Selfish people im telling you. |
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Apr 15, 2019 0:08:19 GMT -5
Seen a guy on C crew who's FMLA read that he couldn't work on Mondays. I swear you can't make this shit up😂
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Post by nra4life on Apr 15, 2019 5:13:59 GMT -5
Seen a guy on C crew who's FMLA read that he couldn't work on Mondays. I swear you can't make this shit up😂 Well FMLA does stand for Friday Monday Leave Act right? ......I’m not sure why Ford hasn’t gone to forcing people to use their personal and vacation time when taking FMLA, numerous companies have, imagine we will see that in the near future. |
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Post by remember1976 on Apr 15, 2019 6:47:17 GMT -5
It is looking like Ford Motor Company will be the strike target. Word through the grapevine is that Ford would like to close 4 more U.S. assembly plants and is signalling a hard line on any further contractual changes. There is a better chance we will be on strike after September 15th than any time since 1976. I can pay all my bills for 6 weeks without a weekly paycheck. Do all of you have enough cash on hand to survive a lengthy strike?
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Post by Ex-metalman on Apr 15, 2019 9:57:51 GMT -5
Yep perfect timing with RTW an option now.
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Post by remember1976 on Apr 15, 2019 11:37:21 GMT -5
Michigan has had "right-to-work" since 2012.
While other unions have taken a hit, total UAW membership is up significantly, from 382,513 in 2012 to 430,871 today.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Apr 15, 2019 13:55:37 GMT -5
Michigan has had "right-to-work" since 2012. While other unions have taken a hit, total UAW membership is up significantly, from 382,513 in 2012 to 430,871 today. Awesome .. |
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Apr 15, 2019 17:12:09 GMT -5
It is looking like Ford Motor Company will be the strike target. Word through the grapevine is that Ford would like to close 4 more U.S. assembly plants and is signalling a hard line on any further contractual changes. There is a better chance we will be on strike after September 15th than any time since 1976. I can pay all my bills for 6 weeks without a weekly paycheck. Do all of you have enough cash on hand to survive a lengthy strike? Unless the membership shows some serious push back, I don't see our crooked Union authorising a strike. They will just extend the existing contract until they get a big enough signing bonus agreed upon. Then unfortunately, it will pass😣 |
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Post by agslater on Apr 15, 2019 20:05:18 GMT -5
It is looking like Ford Motor Company will be the strike target. Word through the grapevine is that Ford would like to close 4 more U.S. assembly plants and is signalling a hard line on any further contractual changes. There is a better chance we will be on strike after September 15th than any time since 1976. I can pay all my bills for 6 weeks without a weekly paycheck. Do all of you have enough cash on hand to survive a lengthy strike? Unless the membership shows some serious push back, I don't see our crooked Union authorising a strike. They will just extend the existing contract until they get a big enough signing bonus agreed upon. Then unfortunately, it will pass😣 Probably extend 8 year in progression to 20 years. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Apr 15, 2019 20:10:57 GMT -5
Unless the membership shows some serious push back, I don't see our crooked Union authorising a strike. They will just extend the existing contract until they get a big enough signing bonus agreed upon. Then unfortunately, it will pass😣 Probably extend 8 year in progression to 20 years. But I thought it was promised in the last 4 yr contract?? |
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Post by saugerman on Apr 15, 2019 23:47:37 GMT -5
Probably extend 8 year in progression to 20 years. But I thought it was promised in the last 4 yr contract?? like when Mark Fields said it wouldn't be long till we got back what we gave up to save Fords ass? |
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Post by saugerman on Apr 15, 2019 23:48:46 GMT -5
Unless the membership shows some serious push back, I don't see our crooked Union authorising a strike. They will just extend the existing contract until they get a big enough signing bonus agreed upon. Then unfortunately, it will pass😣 Probably extend 8 year in progression to 20 years. i wouldn't hold my breath for it to ever happen |
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Post by machination on Apr 17, 2019 7:16:18 GMT -5
It is looking like Ford Motor Company will be the strike target. Word through the grapevine is that Ford would like to close 4 more U.S. assembly plants and is signalling a hard line on any further contractual changes. There is a better chance we will be on strike after September 15th than any time since 1976. I can pay all my bills for 6 weeks without a weekly paycheck. Do all of you have enough cash on hand to survive a lengthy strike? Unless the membership shows some serious push back, I don't see our crooked Union authorising a strike. They will just extend the existing contract until they get a big enough signing bonus agreed upon. Then unfortunately, it will pass😣 I don't think a general strike is likely. It would deplete the strike fund too quickly. But a strategic strike could have an effect. |
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Post by rockyt on Apr 17, 2019 8:20:42 GMT -5
I agree that a strike is unlikely, however it has nothing to do with the strike fund running out of money. The UAW currently has over $720 million in it and strike pay is )250 per week and coverage of some medical benefits. With approximately 100,000 US employees it would take a 6 month long strike to “break the bank”.
The UAW doesn’t have the guts to strike and they are too deep in the companies pockets to allow us to strike. Plus the strike fund is their private little slush fund that they draw for to cover the pet projects and line their own pockets.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Apr 17, 2019 8:32:10 GMT -5
Like The Presidents scab labor house built on Black Lake?Yep for sure!
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Post by machination on Apr 18, 2019 3:05:43 GMT -5
I agree that a strike is unlikely, however it has nothing to do with the strike fund running out of money. The UAW currently has over $720 million in it and strike pay is )250 per week and coverage of some medical benefits. With approximately 100,000 US employees it would take a 6 month long strike to “break the bank”. The UAW doesn’t have the guts to strike and they are too deep in the companies pockets to allow us to strike. Plus the strike fund is their private little slush fund that they draw for to cover the pet projects and line their own pockets. Oh I don't think it would run out, it would just go down quicker the more people who are out. |
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Post by nra4life on Apr 18, 2019 6:45:47 GMT -5
Fun fact that nobody realizes.... Strike pay does not begin until the 8th day. So the union can call a strike, stay out a week, cost the company billions, and never lose a nickel of their slush.... I mean strike fund. Remember when the union was crying because we have a “buy” week to receive unemployment benefits? The irony is they do the same thing.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Apr 18, 2019 10:50:00 GMT -5
Fun fact that nobody realizes.... Strike pay does not begin until the 8th day. So the union can call a strike, stay out a week, cost the company billions, and never lose a nickel of their slush.... I mean strike fund. Remember when the union was crying because we have a “buy” week to receive unemployment benefits? The irony is they do the same thing. Exactly..Ford/UAW.Are one business |
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