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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 15, 2023 14:18:04 GMT -5
I know nobody gets on here ..But has the upper dictators picked the target co for contract?
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Post by nra4life on Jul 15, 2023 19:07:17 GMT -5
No but the experts all agree it will be Stelantis since that’s where he is from and the fact they are try to shut down that jeep plant.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 16, 2023 10:58:20 GMT -5
Damn.I was hoping for Ford.I wonder if we will fight for union work in etown?Rumor is it won’t be UAW backed
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Jul 16, 2023 13:40:34 GMT -5
Last I heard is Chuck Browning wants Ford too.
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Jul 16, 2023 13:42:30 GMT -5
We need to put our knee their throat this contract. No less than $38 hr return of COLA, pension raise, elimination of 2 tier. Pensions for everyone.
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Post by beaner on Jul 19, 2023 6:26:16 GMT -5
They want “plant flexibility” aka moving LAP workers to Glendale. When that’s a no then they’ll say well then that battery plant won’t be UAW
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 19, 2023 8:08:51 GMT -5
No way they let any Senior employee go to Etown.I bet IF it’s union the top pay will be 28hr.Prolly be 30 if it’s non union
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Post by nra4life on Jul 19, 2023 13:28:45 GMT -5
They want “plant flexibility” aka moving LAP workers to Glendale. When that’s a no then they’ll say well then that battery plant won’t be UAW The company doesn’t get to decide if it’s union or not, the employees do. Absolutely nothing the company can do about it |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 19, 2023 13:30:08 GMT -5
I’m just quoting what read online..
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Post by beaner on Jul 19, 2023 17:28:59 GMT -5
They want “plant flexibility” aka moving LAP workers to Glendale. When that’s a no then they’ll say well then that battery plant won’t be UAW The company doesn’t get to decide if it’s union or not, the employees do. Absolutely nothing the company can do about it Have you been to Glendale and the surrounding area? Not a lot of work. They’ll have to negotiate it and that’s hard for new employees in a brand new plant. Why do you think Fords already put the “plant flexibility” wording out. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jul 23, 2023 9:54:48 GMT -5
Well it’s out there now.Ford wants non union at EV plants .Union wants union labor.Like you said it’s up to the workers once the plant starts up IF it’s not already a bargaining chip.My guess.Ford will agree to UNION and that will be a MAJOR gain for the future..Of course that doesn’t help the 8000 workers at KTP one but.
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Post by beenaround on Jul 24, 2023 7:25:53 GMT -5
Well it’s out there now.Ford wants non union at EV plants .Union wants union labor.Like you said it’s up to the workers once the plant starts up IF it’s not already a bargaining chip.My guess.Ford will agree to UNION and that will be a MAJOR gain for the future..Of course that doesn’t help the 8000 workers at KTP one but. Good point! Ford may agree with union in place of 1) Return of COLA 2) Significant raises to hourly employees 3) Significant raises in retirement benefits 4) Keeping two tier wage scale. If not more! |
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Post by agslater on Jul 29, 2023 14:33:15 GMT -5
Well it’s out there now.Ford wants non union at EV plants .Union wants union labor.Like you said it’s up to the workers once the plant starts up IF it’s not already a bargaining chip.My guess.Ford will agree to UNION and that will be a MAJOR gain for the future..Of course that doesn’t help the 8000 workers at KTP one but. Good point! Ford may agree with union in place of 1) Return of COLA 2) Significant raises to hourly employees 3) Significant raises in retirement benefits 4) Keeping two tier wage scale. If not more! Agree. Cost of living is too damn high. If you got a couple kids your basically spending your paycheck on groceries. Ford makes too much damn money we should be making minimum $35/hr |
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Jul 30, 2023 16:15:23 GMT -5
$35 an hour? That’s way to low. $45 more like it
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Post by nra4life on Jul 31, 2023 6:52:22 GMT -5
15 years loss of COLA is easily $8.00 an hour plus we gave back $1.00 an hour back then. So a raise of $9 an hour gets you back to even at best. Worlds worst negotiators giving stuff up without terms to how it will be reinstated
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Post by beenaround on Jul 31, 2023 8:48:58 GMT -5
15 years loss of COLA is easily $8.00 an hour plus we gave back $1.00 an hour back then. So a raise of $9 an hour gets you back to even at best. Worlds worst negotiators giving stuff up without terms to how it will be reinstated I'm guessing it was reinstated but only to the folks that frequented Black Lake and were in the pockets of the higher ups at Ford. IMO. The rest of us shmucks just had to sit back and take it. |
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Post by beenaround on Jul 31, 2023 13:22:18 GMT -5
They want “plant flexibility” aka moving LAP workers to Glendale. When that’s a no then they’ll say well then that battery plant won’t be UAW The company doesn’t get to decide if it’s union or not, the employees do. Absolutely nothing the company can do about it BlueOval SK Battery Park in Glendale is not part of UAW and is not unionized. The issue of pay at battery parks like this has fallen under scrutiny from Shawn Fain, president of UAW and others as the Detroit Three continue negotiations. Ford sources said employees at the BlueOval SK Battery Park will have to decide whether to unionize or not and lead a union drive. If they were to unionize, these workers would have a separate contract from the national agreement currently being negotiated. Copied this info from an article I read today. Another part states that starting pay begins at $21 to $29 per hour. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 1, 2023 20:12:40 GMT -5
So will the new storage area being built at KTP union hall be free for members?I mean don’t WE all own it since we are all brothers and sisters?
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Post by nra4life on Aug 2, 2023 6:51:19 GMT -5
So will the new storage area being built at KTP union hall be free for members?I mean don’t WE all own it since we are all brothers and sisters? Believe it will be used for the $30k worth of hats & shirts they buy every month. They are telling us to save and prepare for a strike yet they are spending money like the lottery winners they are. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 2, 2023 9:05:32 GMT -5
Well Fain is talking a big game last night in You Tube.We will see 9/14.I just don’t understand building a storage unit at KTP?Oh well 5 months I’ll be roaming America..I HOPE 😂
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Post by beenaround on Aug 3, 2023 14:26:58 GMT -5
When 9/15 comes around at 12am and nothing has been agreed upon yet, we will probably hear again that they "HAVE" agreed to a 2 week extension. That has been the norm through a lot of contracts of past.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 4, 2023 5:47:51 GMT -5
46% Raises over 4 yrs.I hope y’all get it!I think 14th is the deadline.I really believe Fain means that BUT they’ve always said that since 95 when I started.
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Post by beenaround on Aug 4, 2023 9:56:37 GMT -5
46% Raises over 4 yrs.I hope y’all get it!I think 14th is the deadline.I really believe Fain means that BUT they’ve always said that since 95 when I started. I'm guessing Ford may agree to $10.00 over the length of the contract. That's all Farley will say they can afford without crippling the company while trying to roll out their EV program. |
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Post by nra4life on Aug 4, 2023 15:55:22 GMT -5
46% Raises over 4 yrs.I hope y’all get it!I think 14th is the deadline.I really believe Fain means that BUT they’ve always said that since 95 when I started. Would be over 5 years (4 years/8 month deal) so if you don’t go this contract you have a long wait…. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 4, 2023 18:09:31 GMT -5
46% Raises over 4 yrs.I hope y’all get it!I think 14th is the deadline.I really believe Fain means that BUT they’ve always said that since 95 when I started. Would be over 5 years (4 years/8 month deal) so if you don’t go this contract you have a long wait…. Its a 4 year contract?Plus why would I have a long wait?I can retire now? |
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Post by nra4life on Aug 4, 2023 19:02:12 GMT -5
Would be over 5 years (4 years/8 month deal) so if you don’t go this contract you have a long wait…. Its a 4 year contract?Plus why would I have a long wait?I can retire now? Not speaking about you I’m saying in general terms anyone that doesn’t go now will have to wait 4 years 8 months. That is what is on the table, deal would expire May 1 of 2028. That is how long the new contract would last. Congrats to you, I’m done as well have my 30 in as of about 4 months ago. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 5, 2023 5:35:02 GMT -5
Awesome.I’m always glad to hear about a person SERVING their time and getting released 😂😂😂I’m guessing you mean these folks will have to WAIT till the end of contract for a Lump Sum payment?I just pray that we get that this Contract.
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Post by nra4life on Aug 5, 2023 7:07:11 GMT -5
Awesome.I’m always glad to hear about a person SERVING their time and getting released 😂😂😂I’m guessing you mean these folks will have to WAIT till the end of contract for a Lump Sum payment?I just pray that we get that this Contract. Yes, I could have left few months back but figured worth waiting 6 months or so to see if there are any buyout offers. Either way I’m done. Hope to be gone by the end of the year at the latest |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Aug 5, 2023 7:43:07 GMT -5
Me too..Hope 50,60k
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Post by beenaround on Aug 5, 2023 10:08:46 GMT -5
I'm heading out also net July. 35 is more than enough! best to you gentlemen!!!!
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